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Signed off yet work are contacting me

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ThePerkyCoralPoet · 17/12/2024 15:35

I’m signed off. Work are emailing me about things that I said I would hand over before the end of my employment. Meaning in my time. Manager has emailed and text me. I’m actually seeing it as borderline harassing me now.

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ThePerkyCoralPoet · 17/12/2024 23:07

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 17/12/2024 23:06

Rule one: never give your employer your personal phone number.

Block their number and enjoy your Christmas.

Apparently, according to this thread. I can’t😂

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EnidSpyton · 17/12/2024 23:10

ThePerkyCoralPoet · 17/12/2024 23:07

Apparently, according to this thread. I can’t😂

Of course you can.

If it's your personal number, you can block whoever you like. No one has said anything otherwise?

Honestly, I find your behaviour and attitude bizarre, and I'm not surprised relations have broken down with your school.

I hope you recover your mental health and can find a career that better suits you in the New Year.

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 17/12/2024 23:12

EnidSpyton · 17/12/2024 19:02

I have also been a Head of Faculty.

I would expect a member of staff who was leaving the school - under any circumstances - to give a handover of necessary information to ensure a smooth transition for our students.

I would not expect them to plan lessons. I would handle that.

I don't think the school is being unreasonable in asking for a handover of information only the OP possesses about the students she has been teaching. The school genuinely needs this information in order to effectively teach and safeguard students. If, for example, she has files on her computer that need to be shared, or data that hasn't yet been inputted, then she will need to do these things. However, the time she has to do these is what is negotiable and if she is genuinely too unwell to cope with doing it now, she needs to let the school know and inform them of when she will be able to get them the information. Continuing to ignore the school will just lead to more emails which will cause more stress, so it's rather pointless refusing to engage with them at this stage.

If there are files on a staff member's computer that aren't on a network home drive or otherwise retrievable by your IT staff, you have fucked up big time and it's a matter of when, not if, you irretrievably lose data about children. Which, BTW, is an ICO-notifiable data breach.

Your school's failure to run their IT properly isn't your ill staff's problem.

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 17/12/2024 23:13

ThePerkyCoralPoet · 17/12/2024 23:07

Apparently, according to this thread. I can’t😂

You can. It's your personal phone, you own it insofaras we "own" any device with a Google or Apple operating system on it these days, so you can do what you like with it.

You're off sick with work-induced stress and doing work will make it worse. Them expecting you to work is as unreasonable as expecting Usain Bolt to run a race with a broken ankle.

ThePerkyCoralPoet · 17/12/2024 23:15

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 17/12/2024 23:12

If there are files on a staff member's computer that aren't on a network home drive or otherwise retrievable by your IT staff, you have fucked up big time and it's a matter of when, not if, you irretrievably lose data about children. Which, BTW, is an ICO-notifiable data breach.

Your school's failure to run their IT properly isn't your ill staff's problem.

It’s a locked shared area. Basically “the department” computer in the locked office.

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WearyAuldWumman · 17/12/2024 23:16

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Yes, but I then mentioned the school policy in my later comment to you and then clarified to say that it was actually LA policy.

In fact, you'll find that the GTCS considers such behaviour to be bullying.

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 17/12/2024 23:17

ThePerkyCoralPoet · 17/12/2024 23:15

It’s a locked shared area. Basically “the department” computer in the locked office.

So they can absolutely master key their way into the office and get what they need off that computer? Not your problem.

ThePerkyCoralPoet · 17/12/2024 23:19

WearyAuldWumman · 17/12/2024 23:16

Yes, but I then mentioned the school policy in my later comment to you and then clarified to say that it was actually LA policy.

In fact, you'll find that the GTCS considers such behaviour to be bullying.

Oh yeah that’s rife in my school. I remember spending weeks crying when I first started because of bullies. Literally staff talking loudly about certain things in the staff room or making personal comments. Genuinely, I know people think I’m an a hole for going off sick. But this school tore me down to the point I literally became broken. I have to have therapy because of all the incidents/ counts of bullying that have gone on and been dismissed. So at this point I could really go on any more.

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ThePerkyCoralPoet · 17/12/2024 23:20

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 17/12/2024 23:17

So they can absolutely master key their way into the office and get what they need off that computer? Not your problem.

Literally🥲

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Resilienceisimportant · 17/12/2024 23:20

ThePerkyCoralPoet · 17/12/2024 23:02

Being hit in the face with a book and already dealing with external issues is not taking the piss. I’ve actually never even had a day absent. Apart from to attend a late family members memorial ceremony.

I’m confused OP. In your last string you said you were hit in the stomach with a heavy object (transpired to be a book) while heavily pregnant. Not on purpose or targeted but in your general direction,

So is this now a second book, or was it your head and not your stomach?

CantHoldMeDown · 17/12/2024 23:22

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EnidSpyton · 17/12/2024 23:23

WearyAuldWumman · 17/12/2024 23:16

Yes, but I then mentioned the school policy in my later comment to you and then clarified to say that it was actually LA policy.

In fact, you'll find that the GTCS considers such behaviour to be bullying.

We're not in Scotland.

The majority of us don't work in schools governed by Local Authorities anymore.

I'm sorry but most of what you're saying regarding how schools work is either well out of date or not applicable.

supersonicginandtonic · 17/12/2024 23:23

I'm sorry but the only thing that happened was being hit by a book 😳 and you're leaving? You do realise that in teaching you may have ti deal with children with SEND, behavioural difficulties, victims of trauma, etc? Sounds like you aren't cut out from the start.
Think you need a job where you work alone and don't deal with people of any kind.

ThePerkyCoralPoet · 17/12/2024 23:25

Resilienceisimportant · 17/12/2024 23:20

I’m confused OP. In your last string you said you were hit in the stomach with a heavy object (transpired to be a book) while heavily pregnant. Not on purpose or targeted but in your general direction,

So is this now a second book, or was it your head and not your stomach?

No I was using an example. I’m not pregnant. In that instance I was saying if I was they’d have to handle it. So dismissing it just because it was the face doesn’t make it okay or acceptable. It just further enables it.

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ThePerkyCoralPoet · 17/12/2024 23:26

supersonicginandtonic · 17/12/2024 23:23

I'm sorry but the only thing that happened was being hit by a book 😳 and you're leaving? You do realise that in teaching you may have ti deal with children with SEND, behavioural difficulties, victims of trauma, etc? Sounds like you aren't cut out from the start.
Think you need a job where you work alone and don't deal with people of any kind.

To clarify. I’ve worked at schools worse than this. It’s not the behaviour. It’s always the leadership. I can take it all. But if leadership aren’t handling it. Then it’s unacceptable

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WearyAuldWumman · 17/12/2024 23:27

ThePerkyCoralPoet · 17/12/2024 22:43

But that’s not the norm. Maybe for certain settings or a PRU. But a normal school shouldn’t have that going on.

It shouldn't be, but things are definitely getting worse - at least in the state schools in Central Scotland. There's been a definite deterioration over the years.

I'll not out myself by giving specifics, but I did some supply early this year and some of the behaviour that I saw was feral.

I stayed to the end of term, but I'll not be going back.

ThePerkyCoralPoet · 17/12/2024 23:27

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I’ve never ever been to my gp to sign me off. I genuinely never ever have. But this time I just felt broken and exhausted

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WearyAuldWumman · 17/12/2024 23:28

ThePerkyCoralPoet · 17/12/2024 23:26

To clarify. I’ve worked at schools worse than this. It’s not the behaviour. It’s always the leadership. I can take it all. But if leadership aren’t handling it. Then it’s unacceptable

Agreed. You need a strong SLT.

ThePerkyCoralPoet · 17/12/2024 23:29

WearyAuldWumman · 17/12/2024 23:27

It shouldn't be, but things are definitely getting worse - at least in the state schools in Central Scotland. There's been a definite deterioration over the years.

I'll not out myself by giving specifics, but I did some supply early this year and some of the behaviour that I saw was feral.

I stayed to the end of term, but I'll not be going back.

Okay but as a permanent staff member (which I was employed as and had been there for some years) you’d expect things to be better than that. Not only that but supply usually, unfortunately by nature l, involves children, even the ones who are typically well behaved. To become feral.

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EnidSpyton · 17/12/2024 23:32

ThePerkyCoralPoet · 17/12/2024 23:27

I’ve never ever been to my gp to sign me off. I genuinely never ever have. But this time I just felt broken and exhausted

@ThePerkyCoralPoet

It sounds like you've been working in a really shit school.

Just send them what they want and then wash your hands of them. You can then focus your energies solely on feeling better without needing to worry about being contacted by them.

I do think you're behaving in a way that's slightly irrational judging from your comments on here, but I can also appreciate that it's the consequence of what you've been through. You need a good rest and time away from the stress to gather yourself and recover so that you can move forward. I'm sorry you've had such a difficult time.

Not all schools are like this and I hope that if you still love teaching, you'll find somewhere that will suit you better once you have recovered. I left state education nearly a decade ago and have been having a lovely time in the independent sector ever since. I highly recommend it. No real behaviour issues and you can just teach.

ThePerkyCoralPoet · 17/12/2024 23:36

EnidSpyton · 17/12/2024 23:32

@ThePerkyCoralPoet

It sounds like you've been working in a really shit school.

Just send them what they want and then wash your hands of them. You can then focus your energies solely on feeling better without needing to worry about being contacted by them.

I do think you're behaving in a way that's slightly irrational judging from your comments on here, but I can also appreciate that it's the consequence of what you've been through. You need a good rest and time away from the stress to gather yourself and recover so that you can move forward. I'm sorry you've had such a difficult time.

Not all schools are like this and I hope that if you still love teaching, you'll find somewhere that will suit you better once you have recovered. I left state education nearly a decade ago and have been having a lovely time in the independent sector ever since. I highly recommend it. No real behaviour issues and you can just teach.

Moving to an independent school too. To clarify. I love teaching. I even really loved my fantastic students. It’s just leadership let me down and made me feel like what k was saying was nonsense. I remember really struggling with some toxicity when I first started. Then it got better as I learned to just be nice in the face of unkind behaviour and kill em with kindness and it worked. But I felt that over time people were unnecessarily being targeted and investigated and put under all sorts of capability plans. I eventually just broke. I really did try. I promise. I just couldn’t seem to recover from it this time. I took my fair share of bad behaviour. This one just left me a bit lost for words at the lack of support or understand given.

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ByQuaintAzureWasp · 18/12/2024 00:04

Are you at death's door that you can't answer their questions? If not, quite pathetic really.

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 18/12/2024 00:58

ByQuaintAzureWasp · 18/12/2024 00:04

Are you at death's door that you can't answer their questions? If not, quite pathetic really.

She's off sick with work-induced stress. It's very unreasonable for them to contact her, given that they are the reason she's off.

CantHoldMeDown · 18/12/2024 07:51

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Resilienceisimportant · 18/12/2024 07:52

ThePerkyCoralPoet · 17/12/2024 23:25

No I was using an example. I’m not pregnant. In that instance I was saying if I was they’d have to handle it. So dismissing it just because it was the face doesn’t make it okay or acceptable. It just further enables it.

I wasn’t dismissing it but trying to get clarity on the situation as it certainly didn’t seem like an example on your last string. You said it wasn’t the behaviour but the leadership.

There is no point posting here. You don’t want advise and argue if people don’t completely agree with you.

If you are off with work induced stress I suggest you stop posting, arguing and talking about it continually and try to move on. This can’t be helping or make it better as a number of people have said you clearly aren’t in a good place right now and obsessively talking about it won’t help.

Spend your energy on things that help your mental well being.