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If you live in a different country to your birth - cultural norms you find odd?

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Triffid1 · 13/12/2024 09:29

I am South African originally. As I was dropping DS (13) at his activity last night at 7pm, knowing I'd be picking him at 8:30, I was thinking how I just don't think I'm ever going to get used to the lateness of things for children in this country. I honestly don't think i was out of the house after 6:30 on a school night, ever, until I was about 16!!! Admittedly, we also started our days much earlier - school start was 8:05 I think.

And I admit, I find it even odder because you change your clocks so that it gets light earlier and dark earlier. And certainly where we are (SE England), everything happens LATER, not earlier. I'm also from Cape Town though so to be fair, it gets light much later so getting up in the dark was a pretty normal event in winter for us.

Does anyone else have anything like this that they find odd? Light please - I'm not looking to bash any other cultures just note the differences! Grin

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TheHazelCritic · 13/12/2024 19:08

housethatbuiltme · 13/12/2024 14:37

I'm curious as to what constitute early bed time but that also allows for late activities at 7-8pm?

My young kids go to bed at 8-8.30pm, I have never found a school/kids hobby running at this time in 16 years and they get up between 7.30-8am. Seems standard among the parents I know.

Most of my children's activities are between 6-7.30. primary age.

TheHazelCritic · 13/12/2024 19:09

I'm guessing they go straight to bed after and have their dinner before hand?

Peonies007 · 13/12/2024 19:13

TheHazelCritic · 13/12/2024 19:08

Most of my children's activities are between 6-7.30. primary age.

My 8yo has Cubs until 7.45pm but they have been as late as 10pm on ocassions.

JC03745 · 13/12/2024 19:17

I work in healthcare and when I first moved to the UK, I handed the patient a gown and said 'Take everything of, your top and pants etc and put this on please'.
I was shocked when some had removed their underpants! I quickly learnt that the term is 'take off your trousers and leave your pants on' 😆

TheHazelCritic · 13/12/2024 19:18

Peonies007 · 13/12/2024 19:13

My 8yo has Cubs until 7.45pm but they have been as late as 10pm on ocassions.

Tell that to all the "kids should be in bed by now" if children are dared to be seen anywhere after 7 pm..

Ginmonkeyagain · 13/12/2024 19:19

@CiderJabs ha ha! About 5 mins walk just means not very far. Very confusing though

Same as "I'm 5 minutes away" just means I am nearly there, it doesn't literally mean you'll be there in 5 mins exactly.

Lelophants · 13/12/2024 19:23

chuggabo · 13/12/2024 17:04

My feet are gross. Other people's feet are gross. Stinky, crusty and toe nails - why on earth would you want to get your disgusting feet out in the home of someone you are a guest of? It creeps me out like seeing people pick their ear wax. Keep your feet out of my sight and smell. Also slippers fit badly and are twee.

Don’t we have a thing called socks? 😂 also I prefer feet than public toilets and dirt from guttters.

ForGreyKoala · 13/12/2024 19:39

livingafulllife · 13/12/2024 12:01

I dont think its gross i think its weird.
I have in door shoe's.
As i was raised not to where outdoor shoes inside because of all the negative energy's we walk in.
Who wants that in doors.

I'm not in the UK and I don't recall ever going to someone's house and being asked to remove my shoes. We aren't so precious about our floors here, and aren't too lazy to do the hoovering if necessary (nor do we have as much dog shit on the pavements as you do!).

As for "all the negative energys we walk in" Confused

There is nothing gross, or weird, about wearing shoes inside the house.

whichjumpertowear · 13/12/2024 19:41

Alittlebitfluffy · 13/12/2024 16:59

I think this is a feral person thing as opposed to being a British thing. Normal people don't do that!

Ah now!
That’s a bit harsh.
It’s cultural of course. You’d have thought this thread might have given you a hint 😉

Lelophants · 13/12/2024 19:50

ForGreyKoala · 13/12/2024 19:39

I'm not in the UK and I don't recall ever going to someone's house and being asked to remove my shoes. We aren't so precious about our floors here, and aren't too lazy to do the hoovering if necessary (nor do we have as much dog shit on the pavements as you do!).

As for "all the negative energys we walk in" Confused

There is nothing gross, or weird, about wearing shoes inside the house.

But it doesn’t make sense - the outdoors is so gross. Would you walk barefoot outdoors and want those same feet in the house? I personally find public toilets so disgusting!

LittleGreenDuck · 13/12/2024 19:53

A question for those of you from Spain, or other cultures where young children are routinely out and about very late (10pm etc,) What time do they start school in the morning? Mine are teens now, but as primary aged children there's no way they could've routinely gone to bed that late and still been able to get up and be alert enough to be in school by 8.30am.

housethatbuiltme · 13/12/2024 19:54

Lelophants · 13/12/2024 19:50

But it doesn’t make sense - the outdoors is so gross. Would you walk barefoot outdoors and want those same feet in the house? I personally find public toilets so disgusting!

I walk barefoot outside ALL the time, I'm with the Sydney folk on this one.

My feet are not gross, stinky or crusty (news flash is you air them like you are suppose to that doesn't actually happen), I have never had a foot infection in my life.

Feet wash... your hands touch stuff thats usually much more higher risk of dangerous bacteria deposits than your feet and you constantly absently minded touch your face/mouth too.

PenguinLover24 · 13/12/2024 19:57

mindutopia · 13/12/2024 15:01

I live in the UK now, but grew up in the US. To be fair, I find American culture completely f@&king weird despite having lived there my entire childhood and early adulthood. 😂 I’m a fish out of water there.

So far, the only thing I haven’t adapted to is the British lack of directness when it comes to specifying cost of something or what time to arrive for something. It doesn’t help that I married Dh who is so conflict avoidant and such a people pleaser that he NEVER asks how much something is before agreeing to purchase it or NEVER asks specifically what time we should arrive for lunch. 🙈 Of course, he then spends all morning before said lunch stressing about how we will be late if we don’t leave on time and works himself into a people pleasing frenzy about leaving early to not arrive late even though he has no bloody idea what time we were meant to come because he won’t ask.

This even extends to houseguests. He won’t ask when they are arriving because it seems rude (often it’s in the middle of the day when we are both still working!) and they won’t be direct enough to say, right coming Tuesday at 10am! And then no one will clarify when they are leaving either, so I can never plan anything or get in enough food because no one will state if they are intending to leave Saturday morning or Sunday after dinner. I have to do a lot of, right then, I’m off to my pre-scheduled thing, shall I say goodbye to you now then?! 😩

I don’t think all British people are this bad, but he is on a more extreme end of a general scale of vagueness about which Americans would be very direct. I’m always the person who asks how much something is on enquiry and clarifies precise timings. This is probably why he married me. 😂

Oh my god yes 🤣🤣 I'm Scottish and I completely agree with this! My husband can't ask how much something costs because he sees it as a commit to buy 🤣🤣🤣 I just walk up and say "how much is this" they tell me and I go "cool thanks!" He can't believe it when I do it 🤣🤣🤣 I also can't stand how people aren't direct with plans / timings etc either! I'm ND so I NEEEED details people 🤣 probably why my family say I'm so direct ... Yes because who has time and energy to dance around the subject 🤣

Lelophants · 13/12/2024 19:59

housethatbuiltme · 13/12/2024 19:54

I walk barefoot outside ALL the time, I'm with the Sydney folk on this one.

My feet are not gross, stinky or crusty (news flash is you air them like you are suppose to that doesn't actually happen), I have never had a foot infection in my life.

Feet wash... your hands touch stuff thats usually much more higher risk of dangerous bacteria deposits than your feet and you constantly absently minded touch your face/mouth too.

You clearly don’t live in a city! Or have little kids thatu crawl on the floor. Do you wash your feet as you come in?

GravyBoatWars · 13/12/2024 20:08

I’m from the southern US then went to an east coast boarding school before moving to the UK. After 15+ years I still struggle with
-Traditional school uniforms. Why is everyone so determined to force children to wear impractical costumes that are no longer even applicable to most daily lives in adulthood?
-The absurdly complex secondary school selection process
-Education narrows too quickly and too far
-No one wanting to drive more than 15 minutes
-The lack of closets even in newer homes
-Planning committees. My god it’s a nightmare to build or renovate anything here
-I still hate line dried clothes & linens. Sorry, I’ve tried.
-The limited role of paediatricians and specialized paediatric care. American children often go until their teen years without ever seeing a doctor who doesn’t specialize in children. Oh, and calling certain doctors Mr. or Ms. still trips me up.

Of course there are plenty of food & drink related things I either miss or have not learned to appreciate here, but that’s to be expected. And there are also a heap of things I like better.

ForGreyKoala · 13/12/2024 20:09

Lelophants · 13/12/2024 19:50

But it doesn’t make sense - the outdoors is so gross. Would you walk barefoot outdoors and want those same feet in the house? I personally find public toilets so disgusting!

Ha, ha - walking barefoot is quite common here in summer, so yes, I do walk barefoot outside and then enter the house. In fact I am barefoot at the moment and wandering in and out with the laundry. Your outdoors might be gross, ours not so much. Never found public toilets disgusting either, and as I walk everywhere I use a lot of them.

SybilTheSpy · 13/12/2024 20:10

And the royal family too. It seems so anachronistic and dysfunctional, I really don't get why many British people are so defensive of this utterly mediocre and insanely expensive family.

Yes to this.

Even on MN the number of active royal threads at any given time boggle my mind. And it's always so mundane 'Meghan spotted at gala event' 'Kate's red cardigan' 'Does William have a bad cold?'.

Jeez Louise 😂

hennybeans · 13/12/2024 20:12

I grew up in America. When I came to the UK 20 years ago, I struggled with everything closing around 5:30 ( which it did back then where I lived). And half the shops were closed all day on Sundays. Business hours are generally longer now, but still can't compete with the Barnes &Noble book shop that I grew up near open until 2am every day.

Also, eating out so infrequently in the UK. I grew up eating out in restaurants 5-8 times or so a week, various meals. Eating at home every day took some getting used to.

GravyBoatWars · 13/12/2024 20:16

SybilTheSpy · 13/12/2024 20:10

And the royal family too. It seems so anachronistic and dysfunctional, I really don't get why many British people are so defensive of this utterly mediocre and insanely expensive family.

Yes to this.

Even on MN the number of active royal threads at any given time boggle my mind. And it's always so mundane 'Meghan spotted at gala event' 'Kate's red cardigan' 'Does William have a bad cold?'.

Jeez Louise 😂

I can’t wrap my head around it either, but then I also don’t understand celebrity watching/gossip/worship and honestly I think they’re basically the same thing in that aspect.

ppaaWWss · 13/12/2024 20:18

Brit in SA:

Going barefoot in public is totally acceptable, especially for kids. My son's school discourages shoes and calls bare feet 'happy feet.' They play rugby barefoot until high school. Every time we visit the UK its a constant battle to get them to keep their shoes on at the park.

Every interaction needs to start with a proper greeting, not just a hasty hi as you unload your trolley. Really ask how they are, really listen and respond. Moving here from London it took a while to adjust but now I love it.

more frustratingly, why does every tiny life admin task need me to spend a day waiting in line at a government office instead of an easy online form? Passport, drivers license, car tax, dog-walking permit, it's endless.

and why do I have an incredible choice of wine at the supermarket, but can only buy beer at the off-license? Baffling.

TitusMoan · 13/12/2024 20:20

Barbadossunset · 13/12/2024 15:23

The feverish speculation about whether or not Prince William was shagging a Norfolk neighbour and what his rumoured sexual preferences were. (Part of the extended royal soap opera that has included, Charles, Camilla and the tampon, Prince Philip and his carriage driving partner, the queen and Porchy, Diana and her various amours, Harry and Meghan's Oprah love-in etc etc, and which probably extends back through Wallis Simpson, Queen Victoria and John Brown to Edward II and Hugh Despenser.)

Thank you for answering my question. For someone who despises the royal family, you’re very well informed on the gossip about them.

You can hardly miss it. Disingenuous comment that proves the original poster’s point.

AyrshireTryer · 13/12/2024 20:35

Squash is diluting juice.

reluctantbrit · 13/12/2024 20:37

SybilTheSpy · 13/12/2024 20:10

And the royal family too. It seems so anachronistic and dysfunctional, I really don't get why many British people are so defensive of this utterly mediocre and insanely expensive family.

Yes to this.

Even on MN the number of active royal threads at any given time boggle my mind. And it's always so mundane 'Meghan spotted at gala event' 'Kate's red cardigan' 'Does William have a bad cold?'.

Jeez Louise 😂

Go to Germany and look at the magazine shelves in any supermarket. They are full of various gossip stories of all Royal Families. The Germans are obsessed.
I remember when Kate was hospitalised the first time and you had at leaast 4 different headlights regarding this from loosing the baby to having triplets.

GivingUpFinally · 13/12/2024 20:48

Latenightreader · 13/12/2024 09:43

I lived in Canada for a little while (Vancouver) and I was completely thrown by people driving 3+ hours to go shopping for a couple of hours - then driving home afterwards! The sheer scale of the country took a long while to understand.

The opposite for me. I don't see the issue with driving down to Devon circa 3 ish hours and back in a day.

The obsession with how much everyone earns and being a higher earner. I understand ambition and wanting to do well. But about doing something that you truly love even if it means it's a bit of a stretch.

The stinginess (might just be my circle of friends) everyone counting pennies- splitting everything to the penny. The reciprocal buying of rounds.

I'm the positive side- there seems to be more of an awareness of healthy eating and living. Limiting upf and sugar. Not being excessive with food or drink. It's rather daunting being served food in North America now. Plus it's ridiculously salty compared to food here.

Schools and kids clubs seem more inclusive here.

usernother · 13/12/2024 20:49

SharpLily · 13/12/2024 10:15

I live in Spain and have done most of my life but wasn't born here. Spanish people dress for the calendar rather than the weather. If it's January, for example, they will wear full length fur coats and furry winter boots even if the thermometer reads 28C. It's not to do with being accustomed to hotter weather, it's just the cultural norm that your clothes are dictated by the calendar rather than the circumstances.

You mean when we have a late holiday in Spain (October) and we are in t shirt and shorts watching the locals in puffa jackets and gloves, they are actually boiling underneath and just dressing for Autumn??

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