Do you think you could kill someone?

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In the literal sense of the word - could you end someone’s life?

Taking the legal consequence out of it, I’m wondering, on a moral level, if you think you could/would do it? Do you have that in you?

I appreciate this is very much a “you don’t know until you’re in that situation” question, but I think that if my life was at genuine, serious risk, or if my child was in the same situation, I’d do it without hesitation.

Yes, of course. Certainly if it was to help someone close who was desperate to die (legal consequences aside). It would be an act of compassion, so I would hope that we'd all do that.

@AlexaSetATimer very similar list here. Number 1 on mine is a driver & a Vito with 4 leather armchairs and a table in the back.

if i was looking directly at the person and i was in the military as an example, then im not sure , but if id been trained and it was my role then it is what it is,

however if i was just a eg civilian in eg bunker 42, and the nukes needed to be launched then i could easily press the button to launch

Yes

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No, because I’m too worried about getting caught. If there was a guarantee I could get away with murder, then I can think of a few people I would happily kill.

Weirdly, I have just seen a video about the NYC killing where a barrister refers to an incident when the Herald of Free Enterprise (younger readers ask your parents) was sinking. A man froze on the ladder blocking several other passengers escape. Eventually someone kicked him off (the implication is he died as he was not seen again) in order to allow the other passengers (and presumably themselves) to escape.

The barrister mentioned it as the person kicking was not prosecuted as it was not in the public interest.

(The legal note is there is no defence of necessity to murder for reasons that might interest some if they recognise the phrase R. vs. Dudley and Stephens....)

So to respond to the OP: Could you kick someone off a ladder in those circumstances ?

Its a different thing murdering someone or killing them in self defence or for greater good reasons IMO.

TBH I have helped end someones life. Back when I was a junior nurse a patient was dying of terminal cancer and in such severe pain they were screaming in agony, despite painkillers . The Dr prescribed a large dose of morphine and we both knew what was likely to happen....
it was legally prescribed and given, nothing 'dodgy' but the outcome was pretty obvious (and the patient was in the process of dying anyway). They slipped away peacefully shortly after I gave them the injection.
The family thanked me and I never felt like it was the wrong thing to do (I hope someone would do the same for me) but it did prey on my mind alot and I still think about it today.

The Dr prescribed a large dose of morphine and we both knew what was likely to happen....

Was good enough for George V (actually he had a speedball, I believe).

Of course I'd protect my child but I would choose to immobilise the attacker rather than go full on killing them resulting in me more than likely ending up in prison on manslaughter and missing out on seeing my child grow up.

I think you don't realise what adrenaline, shock and fear can do to your rational mind.

Taking Out The Trash In a swapshop stylee? 😁

Heehee 😈

I’d happily put novichok on the living quarters of the entire Taliban.

That excuse won't wash in court for manslaughter charges. I get what you mean but sorry I just find this thread really odd and morbid.

A lot depends if you wear a uniform, of course.

People are odd and morbid. My DGMs hobby was walking around graveyards. Meanwhile my collection and reading of sensational murder cases is probably enough to damn me in court, if I were ever accused of a serious crime.

Unless you ve actually been a situation where you could kill someone, then all those posters saying YES are talking BS, you don't know what you'd do in a life threatening situation.

I did once take part in a neighborhood watch patrol in South Africa, 1989, i was given a hand gun and the adrenalin was off the scale, if we had come across someone i'd have shot them... i wanted someone to be breaking into someone's house, it was crazy, i ve done plenty scary things before and since but nothing beat how i felt that night.

i had no previous military or firearms training, my partner at the time, a tough guy who i thought would protect me, declined to take part and stayed at home, he feigned a stomach upset.

A forces friend once told me that nothing scares a soldier more than a gun in the hands of a novice. They can be too unpredictable.

Yes

ha ha how would he know??

but i wasn't up against soldiers but potentially burglars, who often would hack to death anyone they found, hence the residents armed patrols and to drip feed, i was with an ex special forces guy from Zimm.

I did have 30mins "training" so come under novice but not complete novice and i'm quite good at hitting clays but not with a handgun!

My point stands, no one knows how they'd react, from my cousins exp, who was a soldier, most civilians totally freeze or run.

Yeah, I know but, his wife, particularly won't have it. There was a local lad who got caught up in County Lines and the police and social services had him placed in foster care out of county. Its more complicated by the girl "being in love" and him being a coercive and controlling git so if she gets caught with drugs she'll never admit that its him blah blah

Wasn't Brett was it? Really clear blue eyes?

For all those people saying they would end a relative life if they were in constant terrible pain, how would you do it?

The idea terrifies me. You could smother them - but what if they struggled against it at some point, would you stop? or keep going anyway thinking it was just a natural response that they couldn't help?

Or you could give them an overdose of tablets - but how many is enough? What if they survive and come round in an even worse state? What if they throw the tablets up? Do you just keep giving them more?

The whole idea is horrific to me which is why i think euthanasia is so important.
I was just reading that last year there were 15,300 assisted deaths in Canada, the average age of death was 77 with most having cancer. Just think how much suffering all those thousands of people have been saved from. Shame on anyone who doesn't think euthanasia should be an option.