Farage friends with Donald bringing up abortion term times today quelle surprise

[Littlemissgobby]

With the rise of the right it seems to me they want to control abortion okay for a lot of people Farage is trying to discuss about term times and whether 24 weeks is too much might be legitimate but I don’t believe Nigel Farage is legitimate. I honestly believe that he With Donald Trump right now would like to ban all abortions in fact they’re doing pretty much that in a lot of states in America. And I’m sure it will get worse under his next term.
I believe that actually a lot on the hard right Shall we say, Talk about the great replacement theory that I often see on post on here especially talking about how immigration will replace white British and that we need more births that we do . I guess they want to increase births, because isn’t it very strange These right wing men don’t like welfare don’t want people to have children and have some sort of support oh no, but you’re not allowed an abortion of course he’s not particularly saying that he he he’s talking today about the term times shouldn’t be as much as 24 weeks.
I’m not a medical professional. I don’t know what my opinion on that subject particular is but I do know that I don’t like the way this conversation is going we have a lot of dark money in this country that is funding these pro-life groups that have come from America and I think we should be worried about that and I know that women possibly in this country that probably think reform are great because they like their stance on the immigrants well maybe you want to be thinking about that if your daughter can’t get an abortion because in America right now there’s a lot of people that are fucked about and found out they’ve realised that actually voting Donald Trump has had a big effect. Particularly his defunding of the education department and many people that voted for him now realising they’ve been told that their children with special education needs aren’t gonna get the help. They were not aware of how that was going to affect them so what I’m saying is do not be fooled Voting for people on a hateful platform then realising they take your rights away like abortion. I have been seeing a lot of videos on YouTube with that so perhaps we should all be thinking that obviously abortion in this country isn’t actually legal and it needs to be in line with Northern Ireland but there you go that’s my stance.

No, I don't have to hope. It's a statement of fact.

I have concerns about abortions at 24 weeks but I agree with the principle of an abortion up to viability because having a child is an enormous responsibility and when it is better for a woman not to go through with the pregnancy I want her to have that right.

Completely separate issue but I hate Farage and Trump, I think they are both weak, pretty dark characters and they are emotionally extremely immature and thin skinned even if Farage is better than Trump at hiding it. I think most people with personalities like them are extremely manipulative and controlling and all controlling men like to start their controlling behaviour on women and children. It is a tale as old as time.

Biden was the President when abortion was banned in certain states. I don't like Biden or Trump, but it's disgusting that Biden allowed that to happen.

You do understand that biden could not stop what the supreme court did.Total separate things on that thing that you quoted me on, it should have said it's nothing to do with biden

Farage is one MP. His relationship with Trump has no impact on the state of abortion rights in the U.K.

Could you elaborate on the dark money you keep mentioning?

Not just Biden but Obama and Clinton both reneged on strengthening abortion rights once in office. Cowardly behaviour on this issue and a lack of interest in women's rights set the landscape on this tinderbox issue in the US

Thanks for elaborating me

https://www.euronews.com/2023/11/21/dark-money-funding-retrograde-anti-abortion-activity-in-uk

A link but I also on a separate subject saw you tube video led by donkeys yesterday showed fargae got 40000 in speaking at a convention helping rich millionaires get passports so they don't pay tax in countries. So he likes immigration as long as it's those that don't wanna pay tax
Plus that dark money fuelling anti abortion people in the uk makes me wonder how much republicans and their ilk are giving to people like farage over here to

Farage should mind his own business, in America and in his own country which already has laws.

Those laws might not be perfect but they don't need his particular brand of intervention.

Completely agree with this. There isn’t the religious depth here for this to gain any traction.

I wish you would post your far-left conspiracy theories in the Politics topic where they belong. 🙄

There is no conspiracy theories. It's all legit, what I have written all backed and oroven , when you look at what's going on in America right now with abortion, right? So thank you very much, obviously a donald trump fan

Well, it's wasted money. British attitudes towards abortions have only become more liberal over the years. The national centre for social research has charted ever increasing support for women to access an abortion over the years.

Just a note, in the UK, our judiciary are independent, not appointed. We are also a very secular society, and religion also plays no part in our politics or judiciary.

You don't have to be a Donald Trump fan to see that this has the machinations of paranoia.

But we do have a law where we can change things in parliament, so just imagine that reform gets in with a massive mandate like labour has, and they start changing law

Paranoia take a look around the right is on the rise reform could do a pact with the conservatives they win the election. I mean they want is out of the European court of human rights any way. Who's to say what they will try and pass in Parliament if they have a large mandate like labour has now. Who's to say

Our judiciary have nothing to do with an act of parliament that might be changed by Parliament

Perhaps, just perhaps, if the left were not so fucking [redacted] then Nigel Farage would have zero chance of being in parliament in the first place.

That's where the issue is. A true left wing party that actually does something for the population. Not for the benefit of the Globalist Agenda.

We don't live in that world we are not just an island we are connected that's what they don't get. Led by donkeys youtube video the other day showed farage got 40000 pounds at a convention to help millionaires get passports so they venture capitalist and don't get taxes in various countries. This loophole stops countries getting proper taxes that can help people so God knows how you sort that

Oh God, op, this isn't going to happen. You've manufactured this implausible story to form some horrifying tale of what happens when the left fails. 40% of this country is atheist, of the 40% who consider themselves Christian - most operate on the periphery, barely attending church. There's no world where the UK tinkers with abortion rights, it's a settled issue.

I think he 'jumped the shark' believing this is a good idea he can push in the U.K. that will increase his popularity or cause disruption - more of his primary aims than any actual belief.
With small boats he jumped onto an issue that already tapped into some people's fears/concerns (some racism?) and raised its profile, and increased his popularity (with some) for his views on it - I don't think this issue will work the same for him. I assume he's probably being paid to push it though, or made to push it by his paymasters.
On the other hand he is good at agitating and making people decide things are issues when previously they hadn't been bothered. But I still think (and definitely hope) it won't gain much traction and he'll drop it.

I hope not either but it's a worry as to who his mates are and actually how much influence to some that farage has and if he does a pact with the tories next election

It's not a worry - it's your worry.

I think America thought it was a done deal. It was already sorted in America yet. Look what's happened over there.I'm very sorry, but I honestly think nobody can take nothing for granted