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Where are the govt. plans to prevent illness?

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EuclidianGeometryFan · 26/11/2024 13:58

Just been reading about what the government will do to get people on sickness/disability benefits back to work.

Better than nothing, but it smacks of pissing in the wind.

Where is the sugar tax? A mars bar should cost £7-8
A litre bottle of fizzy pop should cost £10-15

Where is the internet ban to protect teenage mental health? How about a law to say no person under 18 can own or carry in public any internet-connectable device?

Where is the housing? How about big wealth taxes on property and a massive build-out of socially-rented state-owned housing?

Where is the support for parents of pre-schoolers going out of their minds with worry about debt? How about a 'nursery fees' scheme like the student loan scheme: parents have the right to 8 hours a day of full time care from when the baby is age 9 months, payable back through the PAYE tax system if they earn enough.
Note - right, but not compulsion.

Where are the plastic bans, the forever-chemical bans? Where are the pollution bans? The clean-air acts to prevent any vehicle over 1000cc engine being used in a built up area?

So much could be done, but won't be, because the rich have to be allowed to get richer.

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Serencwtch · 26/11/2024 14:00
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boulevardofbrokendreamss · 26/11/2024 14:02

Yeah ok.

MindfulAndDemure · 26/11/2024 14:04

Why not make mars bars £300? Or ILLEGAL. That will stop them! Honestly 🙄

dogsdogsdogs1234 · 26/11/2024 14:05

Do go away with your sugar tax, you do realise that diabetics NEED sugar, mars bars and lucozade are the go to for a MEDICAL need. Why should we have to pay more because people can not regulate themselves. This would make a hypo about £15 per time to treat. Start of summer I can have 3-4 hypos per day so £45-£60 hahaha so much of a joke. Also you do know that every body needs some sugar its all about regulation and moderation.

edwinbear · 26/11/2024 14:06

Bit early for drinking OP.

ICarriedTheWatermelon · 26/11/2024 14:06

Where is the accountability for oneself?

Doggymummar · 26/11/2024 14:06

Unfortunately people will find a way if they are addicted, I stopped smoking when cigarettes hit £7 which was my hourly wage. My partner still smokes at £20 a packet which is about my hourly wage now. 24 cokes for him £15 coke zero for me £7.50 people find a way

ATastingMenuButItsAllCrisps · 26/11/2024 14:10

Did you mean to email this to your local Tory politician since they've had the last 14 years in power?

EuclidianGeometryFan · 26/11/2024 14:13

dogsdogsdogs1234 · 26/11/2024 14:05

Do go away with your sugar tax, you do realise that diabetics NEED sugar, mars bars and lucozade are the go to for a MEDICAL need. Why should we have to pay more because people can not regulate themselves. This would make a hypo about £15 per time to treat. Start of summer I can have 3-4 hypos per day so £45-£60 hahaha so much of a joke. Also you do know that every body needs some sugar its all about regulation and moderation.

Sugar tablets could be prescribed

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dogsdogsdogs1234 · 26/11/2024 14:16

EuclidianGeometryFan · 26/11/2024 14:13

Sugar tablets could be prescribed

They could but they don`t work as fast and they will cost the nhs where as now i can just run into the shop and get a bottle of pop or a mars bar

T4phage · 26/11/2024 14:16

dogsdogsdogs1234 · 26/11/2024 14:05

Do go away with your sugar tax, you do realise that diabetics NEED sugar, mars bars and lucozade are the go to for a MEDICAL need. Why should we have to pay more because people can not regulate themselves. This would make a hypo about £15 per time to treat. Start of summer I can have 3-4 hypos per day so £45-£60 hahaha so much of a joke. Also you do know that every body needs some sugar its all about regulation and moderation.

A couple of digestive biscuits and a banana would be a better alternative. If your diabetes is that unstable, you need a review of your insulin type and dose.

Lucozade doesn't contain sugar now, just artificial sweeteners.

EuclidianGeometryFan · 26/11/2024 14:16

ICarriedTheWatermelon · 26/11/2024 14:06

Where is the accountability for oneself?

Missing.
The NHS will keep on treating, eventually, after a long wait, and people will keep on getting themselves ill.
(Obvs not everyone with an illness - not all are self-inflicted).

Things like environmental pollution are not in the control of the individual anyway.

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T4phage · 26/11/2024 14:24

Lucozade contains 50% less sugar rather. It says to consult with a doctor before consuming it if you're diabetic.

EmeraldRoulette · 26/11/2024 14:26

No one can be this short sighted.

EuclidianGeometryFan · 26/11/2024 14:27

EmeraldRoulette · 26/11/2024 14:26

No one can be this short sighted.

Please explain

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Mischance · 26/11/2024 14:28

I'll drop a line to Starmer and ask him to get out his magic wand.

These are radical solutions that did not appear in any manifesto and will not because they are vote losers. Such is the way of democracy - only dictatorships are able to take such radical steps.

FlemCandango · 26/11/2024 14:29

Thanks op you have really inspired that YA "dystopian future" novel I knew I had in me!

ImJustAGirlInACountrySong · 26/11/2024 14:29

Where are the staff coming from to police these "BANS"???

ImJustAGirlInACountrySong · 26/11/2024 14:30

And prison places for repeat offenders??

AnneLovesGilbert · 26/11/2024 14:32

Which other countries do the things you want? Why is the U.K. the only country with such an exponential rise in adults who think they can’t work?

taxguru · 26/11/2024 14:33

@EuclidianGeometryFan

Where is the sugar tax? A mars bar should cost £7-8 A litre bottle of fizzy pop should cost £10-15

Drugs are expensive and illegal, yet people still take them.

Cigarettes and alcohol is expensive, yet people still smoke and drink. It's illegal to sell them to children, yet children still smoke and drink.

I don't think you've thought it through, have you?

As for smart phones etc., you do realise that secondary schools now make extensive use of smart phones, tablets and laptops don't you?? Online homework systems, online text books, homework to be completed and submitted online, school intranets, school online virtual learning environments, even online tests and exams!

As I say, you've not thought it through.

EuclidianGeometryFan · 26/11/2024 14:33

@Mischance

Do you really think a nursery fees loan scheme (like the student loan scheme) would be a vote loser?
Or social housing?
Or stopping pollution?

There is already a sugar tax on soft drinks - it just needs to be extended to all sugar and ramped-up year on year.

Many parents would welcome being able to say to their teenagers "no you can't have a smartphone, it is against the law". Obviously some parents would ignore the law, but it would be a helpful back-up for parents who need it.

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EuclidianGeometryFan · 26/11/2024 14:35

ImJustAGirlInACountrySong · 26/11/2024 14:29

Where are the staff coming from to police these "BANS"???

No-one pays staff to enforce the ban on parents smacking/hitting children. It just becomes a new social norm, with the vast majority agreeing and complying.

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ImJustAGirlInACountrySong · 26/11/2024 14:36

@EuclidianGeometryFan what's the point of an internet/device ban in public places then if not enforced 🤷‍♀️

EuclidianGeometryFan · 26/11/2024 14:37

@taxguru
How much more would people smoke and drink alcohol if it was still as cheap?

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