Where are the govt. plans to prevent illness?

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Just been reading about what the government will do to get people on sickness/disability benefits back to work.

Better than nothing, but it smacks of pissing in the wind.

Where is the sugar tax? A mars bar should cost £7-8
A litre bottle of fizzy pop should cost £10-15

Where is the internet ban to protect teenage mental health? How about a law to say no person under 18 can own or carry in public any internet-connectable device?

Where is the housing? How about big wealth taxes on property and a massive build-out of socially-rented state-owned housing?

Where is the support for parents of pre-schoolers going out of their minds with worry about debt? How about a 'nursery fees' scheme like the student loan scheme: parents have the right to 8 hours a day of full time care from when the baby is age 9 months, payable back through the PAYE tax system if they earn enough.
Note - right, but not compulsion.

Where are the plastic bans, the forever-chemical bans? Where are the pollution bans? The clean-air acts to prevent any vehicle over 1000cc engine being used in a built up area?

So much could be done, but won't be, because the rich have to be allowed to get richer.

Aw sure let’s hope a sugar tax fixes my ds serious heart condition and me losing weight ( I’m already the correct weight for my height) sorts out my knackered lungs 🙄🙄
Its not that simple

Yes the social housing would cost a lot. Surely enough people would vote for it if they honestly believe they or their children or grandchildren could get a secure rented home.

Would they though? The Daily Mail/Telegraph et al would have a field day. Imagine the headlines - YOU PAY MORE TAX TO HOUSE THE CHILDREN OF THE POOR/IMMIGRANTS. BUSINESS WILL COLLAPSE. THE PRICE OF YOUR HOME WILL FALL.

People believe the drivel they turn out.

Also, a lot of voters wouldn't give a stuff about rental homes - they'd know their children will fall into the buying or inheriting of property class.

The people most likely to vote for such a policy are the poorest. The poorest are the group least likely to vote at all.

People believed the lies about Brexit and voted against their own best interests and so they would again.

And what if you are ill? Going through a very stressful time? On holiday? I think you will find the previous poster said at the start of SUMMER they can have a few hypos a day. Insulin sensitivity can change drastically based on temperature where hotter weather makes you more insulin sensitive therefore having more hypos than normal is NOT considered poor management, it's a period of adjustment.

In reference to your 'boozy night out' comment, it is in fact perfectly acceptable to have a boozy night out every once in a while just like everyone else and adjusting you insulin in accordance is exactly the right thing to do, however if you had even the slightest idea of what you are talking about you would know you do not increase insulin for alcohol. Increasing insulin with alcohol is incredibly dangerous.

You're knowledge of diabetes is frightening and quite frankly dangerous. You are not in any position to be giving anyone advice or commenting on how they manage their diabetes with your limited knowledge of it.

@frozendaisy
Yes of course this could not all be brought into legislation overnight. Perhaps not even within a 5-year term.
But it is the direction of travel that we need to see - a government that will stand up to the vested commercial interests, stand up to the lobbyist and the rich, and act in the interests of the health of the general population and to protect the NHS.

BTW - people will never, ever voluntarily choose public transport outside the major city centres (maybe apart from long train journeys as an alternative to long motorway journeys - but the price has to be about half the cost of the petrol to go the same distance).
We like our private vehicles, and hate having to breathe the same air as "the public". Which is why I mentioned engine size.
The direction of travel should be to smaller and less-polluting vehicles.

Blimey😂

Weren't the war generation the slimmest and fittest ever and most likely to live long lives. Perhaps rationing is an answer.

OK so if not mass social housing, there needs to be some other solution to the ill-health and poverty caused by the current housing situation.

It is too pessimistic to say we will never solve it because the middle-class won't vote for it and the poor don't vote enough.

I am done with ‘protecting the NHS’, personally.

In these days of endless excuses for poor management of medical conditions anything is possible of course.

OP I agree with you on pretty much all of it. See the reaction here for why it will never happen though 😉

Count your blessings that you are in such a fortunate situation.
I hope your luck doesn't change.

Wouldn't it have been lovely if the Tories had managed to tackle all of that in the years they were in power...

Yet here you are - expecting Labour to wave a magic wand in 5 minutes flat.

A lot of the ill health following Covid is an increase in brain tumours, heart problems and strokes as well as of course the Long Covid.

Not sure how a sugar tax will fix those.

Brain tumors:

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10475719/

Heart problems and strokes

www.nih.gov/news-events/news-releases/first-wave-covid-19-increased-risk-heart-attack-stroke-three-years-later#:~:text=Compared%20to%20people%20with%20no,%2C%20Thrombosis%2C%20and%20Vascular%20Biology.

I agree with a lot of it too, but I agree from my comfy chair and a position of not actually knowing the complexities, how it will be funded, how people will be 'got on board' and not having to actually lift a finger to do anything about it.

It's easy to agree in that position. Reality, not so easy.

It would have been lovelier if Labour had tackled it in their 12 years of power beforehand too, wouldn't it??

What you are classing as 'poor management' is not poor management at all. Real life happens. Type 1 diabetics are literally trying to mimic the work of an organ that many (like yourself) take for granted every day. You have no right to comment on a condition you have no knowledge of. You are very short sighted and quite frankly sound rather uneducated. There are a plethora of factors that can cause a change in insulin sensitivity which can result in variation in blood sugar.

Stick to what you know. This is not one of them.

For example
Where is the sugar tax? A mars bar should cost £7-8
Mars employ 4,000 people in the UK. Nobody would buy an £8 Mars Bar. What will happen to the employees? Will they be unemployed? Who will pay their benefits? Will they lose their houses? Who will house them and their families?

What about people who love Mars Bars? Remember the pastie tax - people went ape shit. What would the Daily Mail say? Imagine the milage the opposition would get and the headlines "First they came for our Mars Bars...."

How miserable will we be if we can't have the odd Mars Bar?
Will not smokers and tee totallers have a bigger Mars Bar allowance?

Presumably since you know what needs to happen you are pursuing a political career to be in a position to enact this ?

Do you know how much lost work time and strain on the NHS is caused by knee and leg injuries and strain caused by running. Ban running!

In those Labour years, here's what they achieved in those areas -

Where is the housing?

• *Labour brought over 1 million social homes up to standard.

Where is the support for parents of pre-schoolers going out of their minds with worry about debt?
Child benefit up 26 per cent.
Delivered 2,200 Sure Start Children’s Centres.
600,000 children lifted out of relative poverty.
Introduced child tax credit.
Free nursery places for every three and four-year-olds giving more money to parents.
Free fruit for most four to six-year-olds at school.

Where are the plastic bans, the forever-chemical bans? Where are the pollution bans? The clean-air acts to prevent any vehicle over 1000cc engine being used in a built up area?
Cleanest rivers, beaches, drinking water and air since before the industrial revolution.
Were on course to exceed our Kyoto target for reducing greenhouse gas emissions.

When Labour did all of the above the Conservative response was 'the trouble with Labour is that they spend other people's money.'

There is already subsidised child care.

Mars bars are 97p in my local shop. I thought that was utterly ridiculous and did wonder who buys them.

I love the occasional treat. I don't see why I should be priced out of the little things I enjoy just because some people can't take some responsibility for themselves.

How would you ban plastic? What is the alternative? I'm all for using less plastic but banning it altogether wouldn't work.

Internet ban for under 18s? You know they need it for school work?

I'm actually underweight, so the government should bring in legislation to make food cheaper.

I smoke because i want to if it goes up ill pay more and i dont care.
Sometimes op you just have to live your life and not worry over the things you cant control.

I pay for 2x childcare places at the moment. I’ve also been paying back a student loan for the past 7 years. The interest rate on that means that despite having made 7 years of repayment my balance has gone from £49k to £57k, so yes that’s absolutely a vote loser for me. I can sort of see where you’re coming from but the student loan system is broken so let’s not add childcare to that too!