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I am a "very pleasant lady"

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HauntedBungalow · 07/11/2024 23:05

... according to the consultant who wrote to my GP following an appointment. It says so on the first line of the letter.

I was feeling quite chuffed about this but when I told my cynical piss taking 21 yo son he said it probably meant I was a bit dozy. Surely not!

Does anyone know if "very pleasant lady" means fragrant and nice, or if it means thick?

I've obviously disinherited the son, regardless. (Not so dozy now am I? Twat.)

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IMustDoMoreExercise · 08/11/2024 11:51

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I'd hazard a guess that Kemi is a lot more pleasant than you are.

horriblethingsinmymind · 08/11/2024 11:57

I work in forensic psychiatry and rarely if ever get a ‘pleasant’ person!

(understandably, I work with sex offenders, amongst other crimes).

Interesting, challenging, high intensity, highly dependent, high level of need … or more straight to the point, patient with a prolonged history of severe and enduring illness with x number of prison stays!

Sceptical123 · 08/11/2024 11:57

TiffanyIceberg · 08/11/2024 09:27

I got 'talked in long sentences' on gp report this week, what the chuff does that mean?

😂 this would be me too

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anyolddinosaur · 08/11/2024 12:05

Don't generally remember what is in doctors letters apart from the important bits but I do remember being described as "well informed" once. I'd moved, had to see someone new and he kept asking me what a previous consultant (nationally known expert) had said. It was obvious that the new consultant didnt know his subject half as well so I did feel better informed than he was. I had to explain not only what I'd been told previously but the reasons the consultant gave for saying that.

iloveeverykindofcat · 08/11/2024 12:06

Love the vet that draws a crocodile on the bitey ones!

My cat with skin allergies has 'this adorable young adult female' on her notes. She's actually extremely feisty and can be quite challenging, but for some reason she loves her vet. She'll be cuddling and loving on her in the exam room.

LastNight1Dreamt1WentToManderleyAgain · 08/11/2024 12:14

IMustDoMoreExercise · 08/11/2024 11:51

I'd hazard a guess that Kemi is a lot more pleasant than you are.

It's always interesting that murdering a few people personally is heinous but complicity in large scale death gets a pass

InSpainTheRain · 08/11/2024 12:17

It's definitely "doctor speak", I think it just means you were nice and co-operative and reassures the receiving consultant that you're not batshit crazy and are reasonable! I was a "pleasant, older lady" recently! So things could have been worse for you OP!

Bubblebuttress · 08/11/2024 13:15

Intotheoud · 08/11/2024 11:46

This is clinically inappropriate as it is potentially misleading as well as potentially defamatory. Many people have complex histories or multiple comorbidities whilst being thoroughly pleasant.

Yes I suppose it could mean that.

MIL always though had it on her GP letter and she was definitely from anger. Only was on blood pressure medication.

taxguru · 08/11/2024 13:29

Why say "elderly" or "older"? Surely the date of both is on the records, so they could (and should) check the date of birth rather than relying on a woolly "older" that can mean anything.

Why say "lady" or "gentlemen"? Likewise, gender/sex should be on the records.

AllBranEater · 08/11/2024 13:32

I get 'Miss x has a complex history of...' I dread to think what that means?

FormerlyPathologicallyHappy · 08/11/2024 13:56

It means it’s not a simple case. Some people have something simple to fix but other conditions prevent it being straight forward.

StandingSideBySide · 08/11/2024 15:17

Neurodiversitydoctor · 08/11/2024 03:49

But it is surely ? You catch more bees with honey and everyone will get better service by being delightful than "well - informed".As true in A&E as it is in Mc Donalds

What’s doctor speak for ‘well-informed’

StandingSideBySide · 08/11/2024 15:23

JFDIYOLO · 08/11/2024 10:49

I imagine they see some awful behaviour and if they left that out, that could indicate and warn later practitioners to be on their guard.

My mum was a nurse and one of the things that would get written on patients' notes was 'CTG'. It stood for 'circling the drain', ie 'will die soon'.

There will be many more ...

They’ll need to watch out for those Freedom of Information Requests
They’ll have to admit what these codes mean

circling the drain is making light of death and sounds really nasty.

LisaJohnsonsFacebookMole · 08/11/2024 15:30

Dontlletmedownbruce · 07/11/2024 23:13

Why? Is it to indicate someone will be a good patient?

No, it's just to humanise things a bit. The rest of the letter can read so clinical that it's important to put in an element of "person".

iloveeverykindofcat · 08/11/2024 16:40

StandingSideBySide · 08/11/2024 15:23

They’ll need to watch out for those Freedom of Information Requests
They’ll have to admit what these codes mean

circling the drain is making light of death and sounds really nasty.

Oh God, there used to be some brutal acronyms (as per elderly relative, long since retired). FLK is mild. It meant the doctor suspected some sort of genetic issue with a child based on visual appearance but wasn't sure what - not very nice, but there were way worse.I won't say some of the really bad ones as they might be upsetting to people and I get the need for a degree of grim humour working in such settings.But I do find PRATFO quite funny (Patient Reassured and Told To Fuck Off). Similiarly people in IT have PICNIC (Problem in Chair Not in Computer).

Danceswithweasels · 08/11/2024 16:49

I got a consultant letter yesterday, I was not described as pleasant but it did say it was a pleasure to meet Danceswithweasels so I take that as I was normalish. In contrast a letter from a private consultant who did not like me described me as a "54 year old Council Worker" 😂

Parry5timesbeforedeath · 08/11/2024 17:22

taxguru · 08/11/2024 10:51

Perhaps they would be better reflecting on why patients are like that? Rather than a character assassination, perhaps they should reflect on how many hours they've been sat in the waiting room with no information, or how many previous appointments have been cancelled at the last minute, or what hurdles they've had to jump through to get an appointment at all, or the previous incidences of medical negligence they (and their loved ones) have suffered.

I absolutely accept that a small minority of people are absolute cunts, but I do feel that a lot of "customer/client facing" people don't help themselves and that their customers/clients have previously been badly let down by their organisations, so are already stressed, angry, fed up, etc by the time they present themselves. Same applies whether it's NHS, a retail worker, utility firm call centre advisor, etc.

When my husband and myself travelled 2 hours to a different specialist hospital for his cancer specialist consultant for a 9.30 appointment, for the waiting room to be full, all of other people given the same 9.30 appointment, we weren't particularly pleasant to the receptionist at 11.00 and 12.00 when we asked how much longer we'd be waiting, nor at 14.00 when we finally got to see the consultant only to find he had nothing but a two sentence referral letter, no test/scan/xray results, no record of what treatments had already been given (six months of chemo), etc., so a completely pointless waste of time as he couldn't offer any advice, couldn't say anything about next treatment stages, etc. I never saw his letter back to the original haematologist nor to our GP, but I can't imagine he wrote "this pleasant couple", as by that time, we were thoroughly fed up, hungry and miserable - an already stressful situation made a lot worse by wasting an entire day for nothing!

absolutely right.

My GP practice are notorious in our area for being rude and dismissive. Not ral staff tbf but the GPs . Not that i have seen one in 6 years. In 2023 i was diagnosed by an ANP with a lipoma and told that because it was cosmetic only they would do nothing. So i went to a private place to get it removed. Turned out it was a cancerous tumour and I had a removal and then radiotherapy. The consultant wrote a scathing letter to the GP. I kind if expected a call from the surgery, maybe an apology but fucking nothing.

JohnTheRevelator · 08/11/2024 17:44

In my considerable experience of these letters,it is standard doctor speak!

SabreIsMyFave · 08/11/2024 17:56

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WTAF? Shock You're putting Kemi Badenoch into the same category as Myra Hindley?!

Are you joking? If not, that's a pretty horrible thing to say.

queenofthewild · 08/11/2024 18:06

DH was copied in on a letter

"Kingofthewild continues to complain..."

They know him well.

VicSynix · 08/11/2024 18:31

I'm not medical but work with patients and writing up notes is an absolute minefield. We've got to document any interaction so that other professionals know what's happened, but also be aware that patients can see exactly what you've said about them. (You can exempt notes from a patient's record but there has to be a really good reason.)
So there's a lot of 'patient was advised to do xyz and information was given to them about it' eg the patient clearly wasn't going to do whatever was suggested.

taxguru · 08/11/2024 18:37

VicSynix · 08/11/2024 18:31

I'm not medical but work with patients and writing up notes is an absolute minefield. We've got to document any interaction so that other professionals know what's happened, but also be aware that patients can see exactly what you've said about them. (You can exempt notes from a patient's record but there has to be a really good reason.)
So there's a lot of 'patient was advised to do xyz and information was given to them about it' eg the patient clearly wasn't going to do whatever was suggested.

Yes, I think it's clear that they're more obsessed with covering their backsides than actually keeping proper notes and providing correct diagnoses. I've had to make them correct notes a few times when they've not noted down certain things I've told them which I felt were relevant, especially for subsequent consultations, so that there's a "true" record of what was discussed, not just what the doctor chose to note down.

niadainud · 08/11/2024 18:44

As a teenager I was described by a doctor as "morose" which, looking back, I think was pretty churlish given I was in the process of going through various unpleasant and embarrassing investigations culminating in a life-changing diagnosis and major surgery.

sueelleker · 08/11/2024 18:54

He was. I lost him nearly 3 years ago.

MumblesParty · 08/11/2024 19:11

Lavenderflower · 08/11/2024 10:34

I find it to be a meaningless comment. I often receive referrals from GP indicating the patient is challenging or demanding - it can be true most often the patient is fine. It can indicate the patient is struggling to access care.

@Lavenderflower what it means is that they’ve been waiting bloody ages for a hospital appointment and complaining to the GP about it.