How did this poor couple’s four other daughters not realise…

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…that they’d been dead for four years?

I don’t normally start threads, nor do I post about horrific news reports like this one, but I am shocked beyond comprehension that a family would just accept their sister’s claims that their parents were fine……while they were actually dead, for FOUR YEARS.

Those poor, poor people. 😔

https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/virginia-mccullough-murder-essex-great-baddow-police-arrest/

I think it was something to do with a missed prescription, or a missed appointment to collect said prescription and then snowballed from there. But I suppose noone will ever know the full story.

They probably wanted nothing to do with their sister and parents became collatarol damage. Honestly I think it should be easier to institutionalise some people. Her story is very similar to that man who tossed the 6 year old boy off the Tate balcony.

From what I read she made a tomb for the dad but her mum was just in a wardrobe at the top of the house.

I agree, some people just arent right.

He talks about her having 'developed' traits of PD and ASD at the time of the murders. Well you dont just develop those traits at that time of life, the gambling and lack of work suggests she has always been troubled, the family describe her as a compulsive liar, again very PD.

But theres no drive for better oversight or monitoring of people who may have more of a capacity to be anti social/commit crime.

Right! And trying to make light of it! “Cheer up, you caught the bad guy!” 😧

Exactly!!

I think it was probably their age. I expect they possibly do a periodic review of patients that haven't been for ages to see if they are still alive/in the area etc to free up space for other patients.

the father had a few chronic health issues including diabetes

I got kicked out of last my GP for not going, I didn't find out until the covid jabs - I couldn't get one because they'd dropped me without telling me (then I had to find another one that would take me, absolute pain). I don't think it's anything as formal as a review, it's just ditched if you haven't been in a certain amount of time.

Thats right, they'll just drop you, they wont be phoning the police to check you're ok, I wonder what was different here

Plus, I dont get how she so metculously and carefully planned everything but didnt think it important to keep collecting his meds to give the illusion that he was still alive?

Goodness me! 😮

Yes It's extraordinary but surley shows how close they all were?
The parents had ocd and dad suspected autistic with a strong love of routine. They had to use speficic hand towels and so on.

With both parents very strict in the same way it can't have been fun to live there.

Where are you getting all this information?

Virginia McCullough lied and said they were travelling/away etc. I think the parents were seen by elder children as enabling a psychopath - I am not victim blaming but saying how card it must have been growing up alongside a psychopath

Found the quote in a newspaper

”The court heard Mr McCullough - a university lecturer on the autistic spectrum - had a medical history of hypertension, type-2 diabetes, high cholesterol and glaucoma, all of which required regular medication and appointments with his doctor.”

So had I! Staggering.

Yes, I agree something was very awry. That's a very personal and violent way to kill a mother, and the different ways she stowed the bodies is also interesting.

And it's really, really odd that the other four daughters who claimed the couple were such doting grandparents were not concerned that the children hadn't seen their grandparents for four years.

Regarding the GP stuff, it seems that regular medication was being collected, but daughter kept cancelling appointments etc, at which point the GP caused the alarm. It seems by all accounts her parents kept themselves to themselves. Awful case. This is a good listen from YouTube. (Evil among us ). Sorry I'm crap at tech ,so not sure how to link!.

Goodness, I didn’t know they had other children and that they’d been dead for so long, WTF…

I can't speak for these people. The parents may have been lovely.

Some parents are awful though and their offspring would be delighted not to have to be in contact with them for four years. I'd go nuts if I ended up having to live with my mum for some reason. I don't like her, let alone love her as she bullied me as a child and has harassed me since I left home.

It’s so weird, he had hobbies and she had pen friends as well as them both having four other children. It beggars belief that she got away with concealing their deaths for so long.

I think some of it was during the pandemic so that must have helped and her mother had agoraphobia so maybe didn’t socialize much anyway. And apparently she kept using her phone and sending birthday cards. It still is very weird and I also still don’t understand why the bodies didn’t smell.
there must be some significance that she killed her mum so violently while giving her dad sleeping pills and building him a mausoleum. While mum was hidden in the wardrobe. All in all an awful story.

Doctors don't drop you if you don't go, you have the right to be registered at a doctor's. My husband hasn't seen a doctor in over 10 years he has had no need to.
Dentist will drop you if you don't go though.

I thought they couldn’t remove you unless it was under specific circumstances, and that they had to warn you first?

https://www.bma.org.uk/advice-and-support/gp-practices/managing-your-practice-list/removing-patients-from-your-practice-list

Bad of them to remove you otherwise unless they thought you’d moved out of the catchment area maybe?

The sisters are all older than her so probably moved out alot earlier than she would have done and dont blame them if they had a tough time growing up, i only remember the next two up from her. Never saw her parents even for school drop off/pick up or parents evening, seemed like they kept themselves to themselves and with lockdown and ginny's lies she was obviously able to keep what she done well hidden.
The bodies were also wrapped in layers of plastic I believe to help conceal the smell