New office space - unisex toilets

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I am charged with finding new space for the small organisation I work for. We need to stay in the trendy part of London we currently work in/for (our building is being demolished) and cost will be a big factor in the search. I've seen some truly awful places and only really one that meets requirements.

It's a social conscience type organisation, lovely building which seems well run, all the facilities we need and more....but all the toilets are unisex. Proper individual cubicles with floor to ceiling partitions and sinks in the cubicles, but seeing men and women going into the same "room" (ie there's still a toilet block off the corridor from which you access all the cubicles iyswim) made me feel uncomfortable.

Something you'd get used to?

I could understand the angst if the sinks and mirrors etc were communal. But if they are not then I don't get the issue.

I would hate this. The public toilets in a nearby town now have a similar set up to this and they're often revolting. Piss all over the seat and the floor. Toilets not flushed. They stink. It was never like this when they were separate. I only use them now if I really have to. I couldn't tolerate having to do this all day at work.

The ladies loos in our bus station are disgusting.

Our old office was like this but originally we had one set of toilets for the ladies and one for the gents. When we reopened after Covid they became mixed and you were meant to use the closest one to avoid mixing throughout the office too much.
it was awful!!
toilet seats always left up, skid marks, pee everywhere, I used to leave sanitary products in the when it was just ladies but that felt inappropriate when mixed. Probably not helped by working in a male dominated environment so the mixed loos were probably more heavily used than when they were just ladies.

Maybe I'm extremely lucky but all my colleagues seem to be able to use the toilet. We have unisex cubicles and they are always clean and tidy and never smell.

In theory they should be fine. Private, no shared sinks etc.

However I went to a conference recently that had a block of loos as you describe, and also sex segregated loos.

I went in the unisex ones at the start of the conference, they were fine, better privacy than a standard loo. But then I went at lunchtime and walked straight back out and went to the ladies instead. I can only describe it as a man had decided to piss with his eyes shut. It was across the seat, the back of the pan, the wall behind the loo, the wall next to the loo, up that wall too and all over the floor.

I don't think any of it can have actually gone in the loo. Not a single effort to clean anything up, in a loo that was pristine 3 hours earlier.

We only have one toilet at work so its used by male and female staff.

Its never been an issue and I cant say its particularly dirty or smelly at any time.

We have toilets like that at venue near me: a door into a separate corridor and then lots of individual toilet rooms off that corridor. It feels very unsafe because it’s a dead end corridor with lockable rooms off it. If someone wanted to drag you into one and lock the door no one would see or hear. I don’t like using it and don’t let my dd use it alone. And before anyone calls me paranoid, it’s not paranoid. Men assault women (and other men in fact) in toilets regularly.

It is excellent for blokes who want to install cameras to film women so that's going to take the stress off them.

I wouldn’t like it.

We have unisex toilets on some floors of our office. I deliberately go to other floors to use the women’s, and I know I’m not alone in doing that.

I would absolutely hate inside toilets. I avoid cafes/restaurants/theatres and other spaces where the toilets are ok y unisex. I would detest being in a work place where the loos were all unisex. Please find somewhere else for your office and tell the landlord/company why.

I loathe mixed sex toilets.

Same at my workplace.

Because that happens all the time.

Doesn't need to happen all the time. If you'd been filmed using the toilet, would it be any consolation to know it was the only time it had happened?

Anyone got a link to that thread regarding "things that never happen"?

Do they conceal the cameras in the loo roll holders? I'll make sure I look next time.

My work has unisex toilets, but is a 90% female workforce, so not too bad. When the toilet lid is left up it's bloody annoying, but we all know who did it...

How many times is too many times?

There are fucking thousands of designs for you, whoever you feel you want to put them.

https://www.northyorkshire.police.uk/news/north-yorkshire/news/court-results/2024/04-april/man-who-planted-hidden-camera-in-toilet-jailed/

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-44000113

https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/news/hull-east-yorkshire-news/hull-man-set-up-secret-9220828

How many more would you like?

There are fucking thousands of assaults on women all the time.Mostly in that womans own home. But you go on and blame unisex toilets for your own agenda.

So, because loads of women are assaulted @StarSlinger - that makes it absolutely ok to make it super easy for them to be assaulted even more?

My office building only has unisex toilets. Two upstairs, one on the ground floor, and ten downstairs for visiting students. (We often run classes). They’re all individual cubicles, enclosed floor to ceiling, with sink, dryer and sanitary bins. We’ve never had any issue with them, as they are so well laid out.
If they were all in one room I wouldn’t be in favour at all.

What are the signs like?
If they're standard screws just replace with identical size sensible signage.

Else glue the new ones on.