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Has mumsnet changed over the years

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YouFoundMe · 15/10/2024 17:22

I have seen a thread on which a lot of people have said mumsnet has changed from what it used to be 15/20 years ago. I've only been on here for 3/4 months so I'd love to know what has changed .. is it better or worse?(my guess from what people say is that it's now not as good as it was before).. why? What was it like before ..

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Teddleshon · 16/10/2024 13:47

23 years and I am perpetually shocked at how nasty it can be these days.

NewName24 · 16/10/2024 16:15

MargaretThursday · 16/10/2024 07:58

There's a lot of references to cliques, but I didn't really feel it was particularly cliquey.

It was more like arriving at a new hobby where everyone else knew each other. They'd greet you politely, ask a few casual questions and turn round and say "haven't seen you for ages, are you okay?" to the person they knew well.
I didn't find them unwelcoming at all.

Yes is Mummsieoftwoadorablebabes posted "Mummy is upset becas baby#1 (20yo) is not wanting to wear her pretty pink wabbit coat from mumma" there were comments of "Netmums is that way >>>>"
But on the whole newcomers weren't made to feel outsiders. Or at any rate, I never was one of the gang but never felt pushed out or unwelcome.

I'd agree with this.
Never noticed these mythical 'cliques' either.

JaneJeffer · 16/10/2024 16:28

It was so cliquey. Remember Mouldies?

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StarSlinger · 16/10/2024 18:58

The fact it used to be Waitrose was all that was wrong with MN in the olden days. Give me Tesco any day.

But I do miss seeing names I know, although if you dared to have a chat with someone you recognised you were accused of being in a clique.

PlateSpinn · 16/10/2024 19:00

JaneJeffer · 16/10/2024 16:28

It was so cliquey. Remember Mouldies?

They didn't ask me. But it was due to mostly the same sort of things mentioned in 2024 - too big, too random, too controlled, not as funny as it used to be, etc

LePetitMaman · 17/10/2024 11:02

It was terribly funny, and on a different plane of kindness and overall intelligence.

Having to put "lighthearted" at the front of thread was unheard of, whereas now it's required. And that's the decline in a nutshell to me.

There's this new behaviour of posters thinking they're being so clever and a weird self congratulating thing, where they look for any angle, no matter how irrelevant to the thread to make a non point, then sit back, so very pleased with themselves:

OP:"My husband has cleared our account and booked one way flights with his secretary, I don't even know what day it is..."

Posters now: "Do you always cause issue when he has female friends? Are you always this controlling?"

You just wouldn't get such deliberate goading before. It wouldn't have been entertained, but now it's every other comment.

It's still a great place for finding answers to household questions. Best laundry powder. Best bedding etc. And I do love the Christmas board.

But for conversation? Not any more. Whereas that's all I used it for when I joined way back when.

LePetitMaman · 17/10/2024 11:22

Oh, and; "Are you on glue?"

It's not funny, it's not clever, yet the constant "witty" retort of the posters that need the aforementioned warning that a thread is light hearted.

MrsPelligrinoPetrichor · 17/10/2024 11:24

LePetitMaman · 17/10/2024 11:02

It was terribly funny, and on a different plane of kindness and overall intelligence.

Having to put "lighthearted" at the front of thread was unheard of, whereas now it's required. And that's the decline in a nutshell to me.

There's this new behaviour of posters thinking they're being so clever and a weird self congratulating thing, where they look for any angle, no matter how irrelevant to the thread to make a non point, then sit back, so very pleased with themselves:

OP:"My husband has cleared our account and booked one way flights with his secretary, I don't even know what day it is..."

Posters now: "Do you always cause issue when he has female friends? Are you always this controlling?"

You just wouldn't get such deliberate goading before. It wouldn't have been entertained, but now it's every other comment.

It's still a great place for finding answers to household questions. Best laundry powder. Best bedding etc. And I do love the Christmas board.

But for conversation? Not any more. Whereas that's all I used it for when I joined way back when.

God,yes. I agree with everything you posted there.

DalRiata · 17/10/2024 11:37

SunsetSkylane · 15/10/2024 17:55

It's much bigger so there's a lot less 'community' stuff happens, like for example some MNers went round and cleaned the home of someone who was hoarding and struggling. That sort of thing.

It's less fun and less funny.

There's 100000% more boring pointless bitchy 'aha gotcha on this one tiny detail' posts, where someone will hone in one one small thing and totally derail the thread, just for their own sense of superiority or something.

It's a shame as it kills what would have been many interesting discussions ten years ago.

The 'gotcha' thing is one of the worst changes. I find it so tiresome having to scroll past those pointless comments and the inevitable bickering that ensues as a consequence. People who scour threads looking for a small loophole or technicality to pounce upon.

Grepes · 17/10/2024 11:43

I agree that it’s got less ‘intelligent’, a lot of the questions posed could be solved with 2 second google.

There are a lot of obvious troll posts too.

It’s still useful for information and support, especially pregnancy loss etc. Those communities are very supportive.

DalRiata · 17/10/2024 11:43

I first joined 12 years ago and I know memory can play tricks but I dont think there were as many boring posts like 'AIBU to say it should be jam first on a scone?' and it didn't seem as repetitive with the same subjects being droned on about constantly - MIL, loo brush, tumble drying habits etc. Some topics were always best avoided - SAHM vs working outside the home etc. It was definitely funnier and more informative. Topics like creative writing, what we're reading, housekeeping, in the news, education etc were reliably interesting and good amount of posts wheras now it's largely just AIBU and celebs deaths etc.

HepzibahGreen · 17/10/2024 11:44

God yes. I was a working class single mum and quite lonely in real life at the time (many many years ago) and MN was part of my social life. I’d log on in my laptop on a Friday night with a bottle of wine and laugh my tits off. I also got some amazing parenting advice from certain posters. People could be really caring.
I remembering being a bit surprised how well off and London-y most of the posters seemed but it opened my eyes to the fact that women could find common ground despite social differences.
Now the main demographic sometimes reminds me of that Catherine Tate sketch where the woman purses her lips and goes “disgusting!” about really minor things…it’s like a manifestation of Little England small mindedness and conformity. It used to be quite anarchic.
I’m still a bit addicted but it doesn’t feel like a bunch of mates anymore.
Oh and the spelling, grammar and reading comprehension has down right down the pan. I’m not perfect with my SPAG but now it feels like people are just bashing out a text while walking down the street and don’t care if it makes sense!

HepzibahGreen · 17/10/2024 11:47

Haha note my typos and feel free to pounce on me 😃

DalRiata · 17/10/2024 11:51

ReadWithScepticism · 16/10/2024 07:42

Yes, I think social media is the main driver of all the negative changes. Social media is the opposite of a forum in lots of ways, because it is always about virality, the outwards ripple of attention.

When MNHQ started chasing social media engagement you could tell how it instantly started to corrode the community bonds here. That's why mediocre threads like Penisbeaker were destructive (though it was far from being the first thread with this effect).

And then of course social media started more and more to use polarising algorithms to assist virality, and platforms like Twitter became war zones. That nastiness crept onto MN too.

And it has crept into our real lives as well (Trump, Brexit, gender wars, etc) meaning that so many people are permanently furious and exhausted, ready to take out their frustrations on random posters.

The nastiness really has gone off the scale. There always was a mean streak, of course. MN used to be like the cloakroom's in an aspirational all-girls' school, patrolled by the elite gang who made caustic (but witty) remarks to pretenders. But now it is like the cloakroom of a failing inner city comp where everyone roams around punching everyone else in the face.

I think this sums it up well.

LePetitMaman · 17/10/2024 11:55

DalRiata · 17/10/2024 11:37

The 'gotcha' thing is one of the worst changes. I find it so tiresome having to scroll past those pointless comments and the inevitable bickering that ensues as a consequence. People who scour threads looking for a small loophole or technicality to pounce upon.

And aren't they so pleased when they announce "interesting first post, OP"..."so you've got one DD aged 4, but on a post last year, you've got a DS"

use your brain dear, she's name changed or switched a small detail because it's quite identifying... especially when we've got tits like you who trawl through someone's whole history to make these announcements

There just weren't these kind of posters before.

Foggytoppy · 17/10/2024 12:20

As others have said - it was often so so funny. Go and have a root around old classic threads.

I have lots of topics hidden, including AIBU so see less a bit nastiness in my Mn threads - though its shocking how people pounce and then pile on. Its like lots of people don't get a nuance/ don't give the OP the benefit of the doubt anymore.

ExquisiteIyDecorated · 17/10/2024 12:41

Yes, the gotchas and constant requests for "source please" in what should be general chat like you'd have at lunchtime at work. Also the "what support are you getting for your anxiety", "what did the police say when you called them" responses when someone is just a bit worried about something and wants to talk it over.

Slothfully · 17/10/2024 16:14

It's the people on it that change themselves and either want/need MN more or less depending on their real life circumstances.
Then blame MN for not meeting their expectations.

I don't agree. It was funny and isn't anymore. It could be unpleasant but the nastiness is relentless now.

I find myself scrolling through Active and finding nothing that interests me.

So yes, I have changed. DD was a toddler when I joined, now she's half way through uni. I still want the laughs and interesting discussions. However, my peer group on here are going on about "peri" and menopause and how shit ageing is. That doesn't interest me so maybe there is hope for this addict and I might break the Bonds of Mumsnet!

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