Can I get a baby loss certificate for a termination?

[aterriblething]

I have seen these are available but it stated TFMR? Can I get a certificate if it was for other reasons ? It’s very complicated but was a loss and I continue to grieve

I assume it would be classed as ‘social’ reasons officially but it wasn’t my choice

I don’t think they ask any details about the loss. I haven’t looked into it closely but think that it’s a straight forward request for the certificate to be issued.

I’m sorry for your pain.

I wasn’t sure as when I looked online an nhs number was required so I wanted to double check as I think if it was refused I’d be really upset

Whose choice was it?
were you coerced?
OP are you in an abusive relationship?
so so sorry for your loss 😞

I was a teenager and forced. It wasn’t early either but under 24 weeks. I just saw in the news today they have made it possible to get them from any time previously was just losses as far back as 2018

I didn’t want to apply and be rejected

Sorry for your loss. Please try not to blame yourself.

I feel your pain and hope you can get what you need.

The only reason it asks for your NHS number is so they can:

"check who you are" and

"find your contact details from your NHS health records so we can send you a security code"

The certificates aren't legal documents and they don't go on your GP record.

As far as I'm aware all they're doing is making sure you are who you and eligible for a certificate, e.g. not maliciously getting one sent to someone else or living anywhere other than England.

They're not verifying anything about the pregnancy or loss. All they do is make sure that the parent(s) named on the certificate have consented to be on it and that they live in England.

https://www.tommys.org/about-us/news-views/everything-you-need-know-about-governments-baby-loss-certificates

"You don't need access to your medical notes, or any other medical proof, to apply."

I’m so so sorry for your pain and your tragic loss 💔 xxx

That was indeed a terrible thing. I can understand how that must still hurt, and why you would appreciate a certificate. I hope you can gradually feel more peaceful about what was done to you.

Yes you can, you don’t need to disclose any details about how/why etc and you can opt to put further details such as a name. It helped me tremendously and I hope it does you too x

Irrespective of what you do with the certificate, get counselling. You're probably suffering from PTSD. That needs to be treated.

Sending hugs. ❤️

I feel as if I need something physical as the scan photo has deteriorated so much now that I think it’s going to disintegrate. I had to put it away and so a certificate although not the same as an image makes me feel like I’d have something if that makes sense.

@aterriblething I'm so sorry that you have had to go through this. As well as the certificate (I'm not sure about eligibility) but could you get the scan photo copied? I have suffered baby losses and can understand wanting something to acknowledge my angels' little lives.

i took a photo of it on my phone before it got too bad , I’d stupidly had it in a frame for years and the light damaged it I think?

Was it printed on thermal paper? You might be able to revive the 'ink'by heating it with a hairdryer.

It’s a scan photo so yes I think it is thermal paper it has faded a gone a more brown and white colour and is very thin now

You can definitely get a certificate. It doesn't ask any details about the loss beyond things like date it occurred (and that can be general eg just the month and year if you don't know the specific date). They also don't check your medical records to verify anything you say. Even if they did I don't think you wouldn't be eligible for one for an abortion, but they don't anyway.

I've applied today, no personal details required , the nhs number is just to verify your address etc.the app asks for your relationship and if know babies gender, and if named this is put on certificate. If you don't have a name or gender you can leave it blank.also if you don't have exact date you can just put the year.put as much or as little.
I've put everything but it's a personal coice

I didn’t give him a name. I wasn’t even allowed to speak about him so I never even thought about it and to me he’s always been this beautiful nameless precious boy. The choice over remains was also not given to me I have posted in the past what was I was told as to what happened to him but I can’t type it out now as I find it too upsetting

I agree you should have counselling.

I should I know , I’m scared to. I do need to

Sending hugs...you have now told us about your beautiful baby boy , you are his mum no matter what and irrespective of where his body was placed.xxx