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I thought it would be easier to find a nursery with a no outdoor shoes policy !!

381 replies

Noshoesnursery · 03/10/2024 14:25

Every one so far that I’ve looked at they all wear outdoor shoes inside meaning the carpets and rugs are not clean ? I thought they would be outdoor shoes off at the door for children and staff and just clean indoor shoes inside ?

is it really that unusual ? It’s a deal breaker for me but I need to find one !!

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HelterSkelter224 · 03/10/2024 20:21

Ours have the kids wearing slippers but the parents come in with shoes on to pick them up and the kids wear shoes until they get changed into slippers... plus they're all total wee germ monsters so I'd say shoes are the least of your worries 🦠

Completelyjo · 03/10/2024 20:22

Noshoesnursery · 03/10/2024 20:09

It did it was a hartbeeps class the leader had separate bags for the used toys after each session so they could be wiped and any dressing up props were put away to be washed for the classes at different venues on other days

Honestly this is nuts.

You can’t antibac everything your child touches.

StarieNight · 03/10/2024 20:24

Imagination and flow play ie letting that moment continue inside and out is far more crucial and important than indoor and outdoor shoes.

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Noshoesnursery · 03/10/2024 20:32

Jsogs · 03/10/2024 20:14

You need a Montessori. They do inside slippers.

Yes I’m going to look at what there is locally as sounds like a Montessori may be what I’m looking for

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ellitheelephant · 03/10/2024 20:33

I also find the idea of outside shoes inside in nurseries (or homes!) disgusting, I mean I'd suck it up and get over it if the nursery was otherwise fine as appreciate it's the norm here but agree with other posters who mentioned this is not normal outside the UK and children/staff elsewhere in Europe and Asia seem to manage just fine getting shoes on and off regularly, it's not the huge drama people are making it out to be. Yes toddlers are probably licking each other and the nursery furniture all day long but that's no reason to encourage shoes that have potentially walked through dog poo, vomit and other substances to spread it all over the carpet. Sure, it won't kill anyone but it's just gross and unnecessary.

Babbadoobabbadock · 03/10/2024 20:46

Bonkers

NoraLuka · 03/10/2024 20:54

At DD’s nursery they wore slippers inside, the children were taught to put their own shoes on and it never seemed to be a problem. This was in continental Europe though, the UK seems very different!

Rowen32 · 03/10/2024 21:27

I just don't understand this OP. You're ignoring all questions about if your children are able to do normal things like play in parks/play sports? Is your fear just your youngest child getting sick from germs from outside shoes? All I can think is how much they're missing out on if it extends to other things, it's sad.

TotallyInappropriate · 03/10/2024 21:40

Noshoesnursery · 03/10/2024 17:46

Yes this is my issue the pavement germs

Do you have OCD issues?

jannier · 03/10/2024 22:10

StarieNight · 03/10/2024 20:24

Imagination and flow play ie letting that moment continue inside and out is far more crucial and important than indoor and outdoor shoes.

Yes

BingBongBoo86 · 03/10/2024 22:13

My daughter’s nursery was no shoes indoors. It was a chain - Bright Horizons. Don’t know if this is an individual nursery thing or a nationwide policy for BH.

Noshoesnursery · 03/10/2024 22:15

BingBongBoo86 · 03/10/2024 22:13

My daughter’s nursery was no shoes indoors. It was a chain - Bright Horizons. Don’t know if this is an individual nursery thing or a nationwide policy for BH.

Thankyou I’ll have a look

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latestnews · 03/10/2024 22:16

jannier · 03/10/2024 22:10

Yes

You both need to think further than your nose.

Fleximama · 03/10/2024 22:23

Just so you know, small children pick their noses and their bums constantly. There WILL be germs in your DC's future, probably even some threadworms if you're (un)lucky!

Miffylou · 03/10/2024 22:48

Noshoesnursery · 03/10/2024 22:15

Thankyou I’ll have a look

My grandchild went to a Bright Horizons nursery. They had no shoes in the baby room but kept them on in the other rooms.

juldan · 03/10/2024 22:56

ellitheelephant · 03/10/2024 20:33

I also find the idea of outside shoes inside in nurseries (or homes!) disgusting, I mean I'd suck it up and get over it if the nursery was otherwise fine as appreciate it's the norm here but agree with other posters who mentioned this is not normal outside the UK and children/staff elsewhere in Europe and Asia seem to manage just fine getting shoes on and off regularly, it's not the huge drama people are making it out to be. Yes toddlers are probably licking each other and the nursery furniture all day long but that's no reason to encourage shoes that have potentially walked through dog poo, vomit and other substances to spread it all over the carpet. Sure, it won't kill anyone but it's just gross and unnecessary.

Exactly this.
In many European countries the staff also manage to put the kids into multiple layers, full snow gear, boots, gloves, scarves every time they go outside in winter, so I do not get the argument that helping children change shoes would be too much work.
I think it is more of a cultural thing as wearing shoes indoors (at home) is a normal practice in the UK, while in many other countries shoes come off when at home.

Talipesmum · 03/10/2024 23:16

Calliopespa · 03/10/2024 17:58

So actually the answer is for children to keep a pair of outdoor shoes ( that never go on pavements) at nursery and change just on arrival and when leaving.
That could be quite practical. Though I don’t run a nursery so it remains hypothetical!

I’m really glad our childminder / nursery didn’t have these rules. I think our CM had them take shoes off for inside, but no requirement for separate indoor shoes. Kids shoes are so expensive, and with my wide footed kids, we could never buy anything nice and cheap like plimsolls etc - it was £50 Clarks extra wide fitting each time. Needing to double up on this each time would have been a killer!

HJA87 · 03/10/2024 23:26

unmemorableusername · 03/10/2024 18:56

You need to go and talk to your gp and health visitor about your level of anxiety and germ phobia. You may have OCD. This needs addressed as it could manifest in ways detrimental to your DCs.

Wtf seriously, she really really doesn’t.

TotallyInappropriate · 04/10/2024 07:59

HJA87 · 03/10/2024 23:26

Wtf seriously, she really really doesn’t.

I think she does. It's not normal to obsess over germs.

Seeline · 04/10/2024 08:49

latestnews · 03/10/2024 20:06

To me it often seems like other Europeans and people from much further away are trying to explain that there are other ways to live than the British way, are met with smirking and even rudeness from the British. Some are very open minded and find it interesting how people live, and can see that things are not black or white.

But many British on here at least don’t seem to be able to, it’s like they are personally offended and keep saying how it is impossible to do certain things in a different way. I wonder why this is. It’s absolutely just not on this thread, but in general. Like cultual differences are dangerous or really bad.

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I don't think it's smirking or being rude. Just don't understand the fuss! Honestly my kids spent their lives crawling over carpets and floors others walked in in outdoor shoes (and that other horror - bare feet!). The crawled on church hall floors, baby group floors, library floors, grass, playgrounds, beaches.... They weren't constantly ill. They haven't got loads of allergies. I think we had 2 stomachs bugs during their entire childhood. They washed hands before eating and after the loo.

Noshoesnursery · 04/10/2024 09:26

Even a nursery where they wear dedicated nursery shoes that go indoors and outdoors just there would be fine and same for any adults it’s the state of the pavements locally that worries me. Dog poo, spit and phlegm, vomit etc etc

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TotallyInappropriate · 04/10/2024 10:00

Noshoesnursery · 04/10/2024 09:26

Even a nursery where they wear dedicated nursery shoes that go indoors and outdoors just there would be fine and same for any adults it’s the state of the pavements locally that worries me. Dog poo, spit and phlegm, vomit etc etc

Why are you ignoring the comments about OCD?

And where the hell do you live, are the pavements really knee deep in vomit and shit, or is that just what you think?

Miffylou · 04/10/2024 10:33

Noshoesnursery · 04/10/2024 09:26

Even a nursery where they wear dedicated nursery shoes that go indoors and outdoors just there would be fine and same for any adults it’s the state of the pavements locally that worries me. Dog poo, spit and phlegm, vomit etc etc

This is obsessive.

jannier · 04/10/2024 10:33

Noshoesnursery · 03/10/2024 20:09

It did it was a hartbeeps class the leader had separate bags for the used toys after each session so they could be wiped and any dressing up props were put away to be washed for the classes at different venues on other days

That sounds like COVID procedures I've been to Hartbeeps that didn't do that.

NoraLuka · 04/10/2024 10:45

I really don’t think it’s obsessive not to want to wear outdoor shoes indoors, if it was there are millions of people across many countries who are obsessive! FWIW I would never wear shoes indoors and I’m not germ phobic at all, it’s just basic hygiene like washing hands before eating.