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Will my arrests show on enhanced DBS?

37 replies

CurryandSnuggle · 02/10/2024 19:04

5 years ago I was arrested twice for common assault (1 common assault and 1 assault by beating I think was officially recorded). Released with no further action. No further arrests or convictions. Will they ever be removed/precluded from an enhanced DBS check? I found this link but couldn’t work it out as it wasn’t a caution I don’t think but a NFA arrest.

unlock.org.uk/advice/filtering-cautions-convictions/

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Severntrent · 02/10/2024 19:10

Can be if relevant to job role.

mitogoshigg · 02/10/2024 19:11

Yes, I can see everything on an enhanced dbs. It's always advisable to be honest in advance about any convictions or cautions, they can then decide if they still think you are suitable - if you wait for it to come up I would never hire as I would worry what else you are hiding

Mummapenguin20 · 02/10/2024 19:12

No charges just arrests then nope wont be on there

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CurryandSnuggle · 02/10/2024 19:14

It’s for a volunteering role in scouts club. To be honest I think I will just assume they won’t want me which is a shame. Not sure it’s worth trying

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whiskeyarmadillo · 02/10/2024 19:46

The Scouts are desperate for volunteers and it's a great organisation to work with. I would at least try.

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CurryandSnuggle · 02/10/2024 21:02

whiskeyarmadillo · 02/10/2024 19:46

The Scouts are desperate for volunteers and it's a great organisation to work with. I would at least try.

Thanks, I have emailed as honesty is the best policy. Gosh this whole thing has brought up so much buried trauma, I am in tears again about it. 5 years later.

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whiskeyarmadillo · 02/10/2024 21:03

I'm so sorry. It's awful having painful times stirred up. Flowers

NashvilleQueen · 02/10/2024 21:06

An arrest that does not result in a caution or conviction will NOT show up on en enhanced DBS

LaerealSilverhand · 02/10/2024 21:11

Enhanced DBS includes a local police records check which is at the discretion of your local force. If the local force deem it relevant they will release arrest records including those that have not resulted in charge or caution, and records of complaints even if they resulted in no further action.

keeponandonandon · 02/10/2024 21:12

The only thing that shows is actual convictions & cautions not NFAs - you don't need to mention it.

Justcallmebebes · 02/10/2024 21:13

NashvilleQueen · 02/10/2024 21:06

An arrest that does not result in a caution or conviction will NOT show up on en enhanced DBS

This. If not charged, it won't show

LaerealSilverhand · 02/10/2024 21:14

Enhanced DBS includes a local police records check which is at the discretion of your local force. If the local force deem it relevant they will release arrest records including those that have not resulted in charge or caution, and records of complaints even if they resulted in no further action.

ClaredeBear · 02/10/2024 21:23

NashvilleQueen · 02/10/2024 21:06

An arrest that does not result in a caution or conviction will NOT show up on en enhanced DBS

This. My arrest didn't show up as it didn't result in further action - but I'm pretty sure there's a 6 month window when it might show up. If it confuses to show you need to ask for it to be removed. I had a DBS six months afterwards for work (who would support the circumstances of my arrest) and it didn't show up at all.

MargotEmin · 02/10/2024 21:28

Mummapenguin20 · 02/10/2024 19:12

No charges just arrests then nope wont be on there

On an enhanced it could well be disclosed. Why do people comment so confidently on things they are wrong about?

Eyerollexpert · 02/10/2024 21:33

CurryandSnuggle · 02/10/2024 19:14

It’s for a volunteering role in scouts club. To be honest I think I will just assume they won’t want me which is a shame. Not sure it’s worth trying

I know someone who was worried about same and it did NOT show up as were not charged or cautioned. Please just apply.

Floralnomad · 02/10/2024 21:34

The scouts , in my experience , will take anyone .

LeekPeachPlum · 02/10/2024 21:35

As previous poster said it is at the discretion of the local police force. It will depend on whether the local force deem it relevant.

User478 · 02/10/2024 22:02

Scouts don't require a clean DBS check.

Any flags on a DBS check get assessed by the safeguarding team and they risk assess based on individual circumstances.

The information that they follow is here: www.scouts.org.uk/volunteers/running-things-locally/recruiting-and-managing-volunteers/appointing/disclosure-checking/adverse-disclosures/

Eg a conviction for dangerous driving risk assessment might say that the individual may not drive young people about and shouldn't be in a management position, but it would be ok to have them as a parent helper on a family camp.
This would be discussed with the individual, appointments committee any relevant commissioners and the safeguarding team who may then draw up a volunteer agreement and this would be followed by the volunteer.

We had a leader who had a conviction for credit card fraud, they were allowed to be a leader but were not allowed any responsibility for finance in any way. They were very open about their circumstances which went a long way.

Severntrent · 03/10/2024 10:23

If you still want to go ahead, I'd have a chat with the scouts safeguarding officer and explain that you are a bit concerned about this. I do a similar role and there have been volunteers taken on with things that show up on dbs, but if it's still appropriate for them to be a volunteer it hasn't stopped them from playing a really important role, making a difference to children's lives and hopefully enjoying themselves.
I'm sure this is bringing back a horrible time. But maybe think of it as not letting a horrible experience affect the rest of your life. It's amazing that you're considering volunteering for the scouts and I say, go for it. It certainly won't be the first or last time they will have chatted with people about this sort of thing.

wonkeydonkey123 · 03/10/2024 10:45

only convictions, I had an enhanced DBS recently, driving conviction from 25 years ago and 8 years ago not on it. Also, a caution from 2006 was not on it

MargotEmin · 03/10/2024 12:31

wonkeydonkey123 · 03/10/2024 10:45

only convictions, I had an enhanced DBS recently, driving conviction from 25 years ago and 8 years ago not on it. Also, a caution from 2006 was not on it

Because they wouldn't have been relevant to safeguarding. If you had been convicted or cautioned for child cruelty for example they probably would have been disclosed.

Enhanced DBSs aren't spat out by a computer, a human makes a judgement about what should and should not be disclosed, cautions and spent convictions absolutely can be disclosed in certain circumstances.

LaerealSilverhand · 03/10/2024 12:53

MargotEmin · 03/10/2024 12:31

Because they wouldn't have been relevant to safeguarding. If you had been convicted or cautioned for child cruelty for example they probably would have been disclosed.

Enhanced DBSs aren't spat out by a computer, a human makes a judgement about what should and should not be disclosed, cautions and spent convictions absolutely can be disclosed in certain circumstances.

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Exactly - it won't show a conviction for shoplifting from 20 years ago, but it certainly will show an investigation for suspect child abuse, even if the investigation was dropped as no further action.

HotelCustody · 03/10/2024 12:54

MargotEmin · 03/10/2024 12:31

Because they wouldn't have been relevant to safeguarding. If you had been convicted or cautioned for child cruelty for example they probably would have been disclosed.

Enhanced DBSs aren't spat out by a computer, a human makes a judgement about what should and should not be disclosed, cautions and spent convictions absolutely can be disclosed in certain circumstances.

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What this poster (and those who posted the same) said. @CurryandSnuggle did you have your fingerprints, photo and DNA taken, if so that would certainly generate a local Police record (PNC number) it might show as ‘non-conviction’ information.

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CurryandSnuggle · 03/10/2024 13:02

I did but if I remember correctly, they said they would destroy the fingerprint information as it was a NFA

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LittleBobbyDazzler · 03/10/2024 13:05

CurryandSnuggle · 02/10/2024 21:02

Thanks, I have emailed as honesty is the best policy. Gosh this whole thing has brought up so much buried trauma, I am in tears again about it. 5 years later.

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Just echoing what other PPs have said. They may show on an enhanced check IF they are relevant to the role. Sounds unlikely from the information given but honestly is always best. FWIW I work for an organisation thay works with young people and if they did show, the risk would be raised and assessed by the risk committee, it wouldn't be an automatic no. Most of the time the information we see has no bearing on the role and our volunteers proceed as normal. Best of luck.