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£400 for year 6 residential

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greenbluedays · 26/09/2024 13:26

Two nights at a sports centre, two hours away

£400 just seems a lot to ask of families. Am I completely out of the loop or is this normal

OP posts:
Siouxtse1 · 27/09/2024 11:46

My daughter won't be going on her 3 day, 2 night trip. She missed last year's trip as we relocated part way through the school year and all places on that were filled (a city break, lots of museums and sights, trying different modes of transport- she'd have loved that, though there was only one place we hadn't already visited as a family).

This year's trip is more activity based. Of three days of activities, more than a day's worth involves activities at height. My daughter suffers from vertigo at height (runs in both families unfortunately) and when I asked, they hadn't thought to offer alternatives. I don't trust the school not to try and coerce her into trying it and we wanted her to be able to go away without us to build confidence.

The school has also based the price on every single child attending (nearly £300), so this will increase as people drop out. I think I will see if any of the watersports places in the area offer a child's package she might enjoy trying instead, so she doesn't feel as if she's missing out.

Avocadono · 27/09/2024 14:23

Siouxtse1 · 27/09/2024 11:46

My daughter won't be going on her 3 day, 2 night trip. She missed last year's trip as we relocated part way through the school year and all places on that were filled (a city break, lots of museums and sights, trying different modes of transport- she'd have loved that, though there was only one place we hadn't already visited as a family).

This year's trip is more activity based. Of three days of activities, more than a day's worth involves activities at height. My daughter suffers from vertigo at height (runs in both families unfortunately) and when I asked, they hadn't thought to offer alternatives. I don't trust the school not to try and coerce her into trying it and we wanted her to be able to go away without us to build confidence.

The school has also based the price on every single child attending (nearly £300), so this will increase as people drop out. I think I will see if any of the watersports places in the area offer a child's package she might enjoy trying instead, so she doesn't feel as if she's missing out.

Unfortunately offering alternative activities just becomes impossible to staff. Residentials are usually priced at something like £500 for the first 10 children and £50 per child thereafter (or whatever) so it's unlikely children not attending will cause costs to rise - I've never experienced the cost being recalculated.

sanityisamyth · 27/09/2024 14:29

FuckThePoPo · 27/09/2024 11:03

Got to pay for the teachers beer money!!! 😂

Seriously?

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museumum · 27/09/2024 14:35

Ours is £400 but Monday to Friday and at a really amazing outdoor education facility with very qualified instructors.
There are payment plans and grants available and the year group do a load of community fundraising too.

TSMWEL · 27/09/2024 14:36

£325 for 2 nights, it's gone up £25 since last year. About an hour or so away and packed with activities, dc2 had a great time last year so I'm happy to pay it for dc3 but it is a lot.

Ours take it in instalments, which helps.

Whoyoutakingto · 27/09/2024 15:04

Thequeenofwishfulthinking · 26/09/2024 23:08

My response to the OP was initially based on my experience as a parent. It seems to have ruffled @Philandbills feathers unfortunately.

@Philandbill
I have worked in a non teaching role in schools for over a decade.
Yes I know the teachers and other members of staff (myself included several times) are working.
No I don’t think the teachers and other members of staff should pay to go.
I am aware the total cost is usually divided by the majority of students attending.
This includes the cost of the teachers and other staff too.
Nevertheless there may be children who receive free school meals due to a low income who will be subsidised or paid for completely.
The OP is entitled to a breakdown of costs.
I’ve always received one in respect of residentials and the school I work for currently provides one.
With due respect you aren’t in a position to claim that ‘pupils don’t subsidise other pupils,’ without being privy to every schools policy on this type of issue.
The school I work for has always worked on this basis as have all the schools my children attend/attended over the last 20 years.

If children receive free school meals due to low income schools receive a premium for them and this is put towards their costs not other parent money!

Siouxtse1 · 28/09/2024 21:54

Actually @Avocadono it states in the letter that the costs are subject to change depending on uptake for the trip. They have based the figures on every child in the year group attending. Last year, about 25% of the year group didn't attend the residential, the prices were increased slightly (so I was told). One year group that usually goes away didn't have a trip at all as uptake was so low.

The school are having a third party negotiate and administer the financials for the trip. I hope that means they have a wider bargaining power (maybe booking for several schools to get cheaper rates overall), but there must be a fee charged somewhere. I hope it works out for everyone that does want to go.

noblegiraffe · 28/09/2024 22:02

That'll be the cost of transport.

TickingAlongNicely · 28/09/2024 22:04

Logically... accommodation, activities etc wouldn't be affected by uptake.

But transport could be. 40 kids on a coach costs the same as 50 kids on a coach. But 500/50 = 10, whereas 500/40 is 12.5 as an example!

Needanewname42 · 28/09/2024 23:46

Actually accommodation and activities costs could well be affected by numbers.

If they are booking somewhere that's designed for school trips say it accommodates say 60 kids, 10 Dorms 6 kids in a Dorm.
They probably prefer not to have kids from different schools on the same corridor at night. Also you wouldn't want mixed sex dorms. So you could easily be under occupied
So then the school needs to pay for the who area.

Same with instructors for the activities. If they can have groups of up to 10. If you have 51 kids you probably still need to pay for 6 instructors ending up with 8/9 in a group. Rather than 10 in a group

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