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Returning to work but claiming UC-would award go to £0.00?

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ohbabyiloveyou · 26/07/2024 13:06

I'm single and over 25
I receive UC which includes LCWRA and rent £430
I am returning to work and after tax/ni my wages will be £1.650 a month
Will this make my UC award £0.00 ?
And cancel my LCWRA?

I receive it for my mental health
Finally feel in a good place after medication /therapy and want to return to work

I thought to just cancel it but my dad said he thinks I will still be awarded something as I have LCWRA
Can anyone help ?

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ohbabyiloveyou · 26/07/2024 13:16

Anyone ?

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VanCleefArpels · 26/07/2024 13:20

You will be earning too much to qualify for LCWRA which by definition is awarded to people who cannot work. You are allowed to earn a little while claiming LCWRA but you will be over this (it’s around £800 a month if memory serves).

You could do an online benefits check on Turn2Us with details of new income and this will tell you what your claim might be after your start work

ohbabyiloveyou · 26/07/2024 13:31

After doing the calculations it's saying £532 a month UC because I receive the LCWRA rate
You can claim this and work as long as it doesn't contradict reason
I just didn't think it would be that much

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ohbabyiloveyou · 26/07/2024 13:32

Does this seem right ?

Returning to work but claiming UC-would award go to £0.00?
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ohbabyiloveyou · 26/07/2024 13:32

Sorry £577 not £532

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ohbabyiloveyou · 26/07/2024 13:33

How do they get this figure ?
Why do they deduct what they do ?

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TigerRag · 26/07/2024 13:34

ohbabyiloveyou · 26/07/2024 13:33

How do they get this figure ?
Why do they deduct what they do ?

Because it's wages / 0.55 that's what they take off.

ohbabyiloveyou · 26/07/2024 13:35

Does anyone know how long after returning to work till I am re assessed again ?

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Myusername2015 · 26/07/2024 13:35

Yes; my friend earns a similar amount with LCWRA on her claim comes out with a similar amount. It depends how long your LCRWA claim is valid for as you won’t be entitled to it on review (so will remove £416.29 from your UC.

ohbabyiloveyou · 26/07/2024 13:37

I was awarded it 2021 and haven't heard from them since
I think there's a backlog or something
I don't know wether to just close my claim to save the hassle of worrying about Assesment's

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TigerRag · 26/07/2024 13:40

Unless you receive pip you won't be able to claim LCWRA and work over 16 hours.

The first £404 of your wages is disregarded if you're working. (And receiving LCWRA or have children on your claim and rent)

Myusername2015 · 26/07/2024 13:45

TigerRag · 26/07/2024 13:40

Unless you receive pip you won't be able to claim LCWRA and work over 16 hours.

The first £404 of your wages is disregarded if you're working. (And receiving LCWRA or have children on your claim and rent)

I think that’s an ESA rule? I’m pretty sure you get LCRWA awarded regardless of hours worked (although as said when reviewed LCRWA would be removed as OP is able to now work) OP I’d keep your claim until you make sure you are able to keep up with work with your health conditions. Huge backlogs of PIP and ESA/LCRWA claims and they are prioritising new claims so who knows when they will review you.

TigerRag · 26/07/2024 13:48

Myusername2015 · 26/07/2024 13:45

I think that’s an ESA rule? I’m pretty sure you get LCRWA awarded regardless of hours worked (although as said when reviewed LCRWA would be removed as OP is able to now work) OP I’d keep your claim until you make sure you are able to keep up with work with your health conditions. Huge backlogs of PIP and ESA/LCRWA claims and they are prioritising new claims so who knows when they will review you.

It's the same on UC - unless you receive pip, you can only earn a certain amount / work a certain amount of hours and receive LCWRA

ohbabyiloveyou · 26/07/2024 13:52

@TigerRag I've just had a response to my journal message saying I can work full time with LCWRA but there will be deductions
He said something about work allowance
I'm hoping I'm not taking on too much
So it's nice to have it incase it goes tits up

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ohbabyiloveyou · 26/07/2024 13:53

@Myusername2015 yeah it's a worry that I'm going to relapse how too much too soon
When I started claiming I couldn't leave the house or even lift up the phone so it's a big step
I'm just so fed up of not working and I want my life back.
Also feel a bit cheeky getting money if I don't deserve it

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Cornflakelover · 26/07/2024 14:10

op
if you head over to Reddit and the benefit / universe to credit subs you have actual benefit / UC advisors who moderate the sub
they are incredibly helpful and can give you proper figures

Off the top of my head yoh will get your LCWRA award of I think 400 ( or whatever it is you get now )
plus a work allowance of 101 a week so 404 a month
after that you lose 55p in the pound

so for every pound you earn over that amount of roughly 800 you lose 55p I think

thr only thing you have to be aware of is if the work you do contradicts the reason you got LCWRA

so if you got thf award for not being able to leave the hired / plan a journey anxiety in crowds.

But your working in thr local pub as a bar maid or football ground as a steward they could reassess you

Cornflakelover · 26/07/2024 14:12

Your LCWRA won’t be removed if your in Universal credit

yoy can work as much as you want or not
The the first 404 that you earn disregarded along with your LCWRA
After that there it’s reduced by 55p in the pound

your encouraged to work with LCWRA
hence you get the work allowance to make it possible and thr small reduction

if your on old legacy benefits of ESA it’s different as you can earn slightly more but it has to be 16 hours or less and it had to be permitted work

UC is mucg easier to work with if your disabled

ohbabyiloveyou · 26/07/2024 14:18

@Cornflakelover thanks so much for that
That's really helpful
Yeah it was for anxiety and depression
Although it's like night and day compared to what I'm like now
That's why I was considering just cancelling my claim as it felt a bit cheeky to get money that I shouldn't

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Miley1967 · 26/07/2024 14:20

TigerRag · 26/07/2024 13:48

It's the same on UC - unless you receive pip, you can only earn a certain amount / work a certain amount of hours and receive LCWRA

That's not correct at all.

PistachioFrapp · 26/07/2024 14:26

There is not a set amount of hours or money you can earn and still get LCWRA as they do encourage you to try and work as much as you can.

However whenever you do have your next review they will obviously look at how much you have worked and you may lose it.

Equally though, if it doesn't work out you could claim it again.

Cornflakelover · 26/07/2024 14:33

ohbabyiloveyou · 26/07/2024 14:18

@Cornflakelover thanks so much for that
That's really helpful
Yeah it was for anxiety and depression
Although it's like night and day compared to what I'm like now
That's why I was considering just cancelling my claim as it felt a bit cheeky to get money that I shouldn't

Your welcome

as I said if you check on the benefits / dwp sub redditss you will find the mods work for the DWP/ UC and they are really helpful

as you can see you have had lots of different replies with some inaccurate answers and a few correct ones

the only problems you might get is depending on what your aniexty / depression is based on ( sorry improbably not wording this correctly ) is that when you come to be reviewed they might use the fact that you are working against you

if your working from home probably not a problem

if your working in a busy office they could try and use it against you if your anxiety is based around people crowds not going out - if you see what I mean

Cornflakelover · 26/07/2024 14:36

TigerRag · 26/07/2024 13:48

It's the same on UC - unless you receive pip, you can only earn a certain amount / work a certain amount of hours and receive LCWRA

That’s not correct at all
and that also wasn’t ever the case on legacy benefits either

UC was actually set up to benefit people working as much as possible

aodirjjd · 26/07/2024 14:42

For all benefits there is a line which says you must tell us if your circumstances change. I think going from being so ill you can’t leave the house or speak on phone to being able to work full time is a significant change and I would be wary of still receiving that benefit, they could easily review your file and raise a fraud query as your symptoms have improved significantly. Waiting for them to review your benefits is not a reasonable defence.

ohbabyiloveyou · 26/07/2024 14:58

@aodirjjd I don't think it works like that
I was awarded in 2021 after a lot of medical evidence from doctors /psychiatrists etc
My condition has improved significantly after years of treatment
I will be declaring my return to work then it's totally up to them to review me
I'll be honest and tell them how I've improved

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Miley1967 · 26/07/2024 15:34

Isn't it up to people to report a significant change/ improvement in condition though ? Then DWP can decide if they will re-assess. I honestly can't see why people would be paid an extra £414 a month for too long if all is going well being back at work. I can understand there being a period of time where it continues so that someone can test whether they can cope with being back at work but surely not for too long?

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