Can I get German pass prts for my dc :, half German dad and granny German?

[Germanpassport]

I have tried to un pick the info on the website and it's confusing me with citizenship etc.

I just want go see if we can apply for passports for them. When dh was young he once had a German pp

We had a similar situation and DH and The DC now have Dual UK/German nationality and passports
BUT Germany only allows Dual with another EU nation so I don't believe its possible now, we did it pre Brexit

And I can't get one unless we move to Germany for (I think) 2 years.
I also think I would have to give up my British nationality

@LarissaFeodorovna

If he would like to have a guide to German Grammar to hand, one of the very best is Hammer's Guide to German Grammar and Usage. I would recommend it to anyone coming into contact with German in an academic context.

https://www.routledge.com/Hammers-German-Grammar-and-Usage/Durrell/p/book/9780367150266

@Germanpassport

Does he speak German, OP?

My dh does yes.
One dc too young to have tried German yet she will start soon though next school year. Older dc did well in it but dropped it for French.

@Germanpassport

I was just reading something on the website of the Bundesverwaltungsamt and was wondering whether it would be the page your husband would need, should he wish to apply for German nationality having previously had it earlier in his life. I'm not sure from what you said what his current status vis-a-vis German nationality is.

The page lists the documents he would need to provide.

It does say that, as an applicant living abroad, he must go via the Embassy, but I know that you are arranging that anyway.

https://www.bva.bund.de/DE/Services/Buerger/Ausweis-Dokumente-Recht/Staatsangehoerigkeit/Einbuergerung/Ermessen13/01-InformationenE13/0102Erm13Wiegehtes/0202Erm13Anleitungnode.html

@Germanpassport

On reflection, he may need to start with this one to establish whether he still holds German citizenship. The previous link would be suitable should he need to re-establish it.

www.bva.bund.de/DE/Services/Buerger/Ausweis-Dokumente-Recht/Staatsangehoerigkeit/Feststellung_Start/Feststellung/01_Informationen_Feststellung/01_02_F_wie_geht_es/01_02_F_wie_geht_es_node.html

That has changed as of 27th June - generally dual citizenship now allowed regardless of whether EU or not. Can't find an English link, but it's been pretty widely reported

uk.diplo.de/uk-de/02/beibehaltung/2646332

He's done classes - most unis offering English-medium degree courses will also offer free or heavily subsidised language lessons in some form, possibly even for additional credits. And dc has now switched to the German-language version of the course, so it's been a fairly intense full immersion experience.

It just does takes longer than two years to get to the point where you can consistently apply grammatical rules in spontaneous speech! At least in a heavily-inflected language like German it does. Knowing that the verb goes to the end in a subordinate clause is one thing, remembering to do it 100% of the time when you're chatting with friends or trying to answer a question in lectures is quite another...

But he'll get there, assuming he stays in DE, which I think he probably will.

@TheSquareMile my goodness that suddenly looks like a lot more work!!

I know, but I think that, ultimately, it will be less work for you, as his status will be clear and this will impact on his children's situation. If he sends the application asking for confirmation of his status and receives confirmation from the BVA that he holds German nationality, that will be a reference point for his children's applications.

What would make things more complex and longer would be the children's applications being returned with a request that he re-applies for nationality himself. If he already has confirmation that he still has German nationality, you will be able to say this when the children apply.

I would start with the confirmation of nationality form for him, to be honest.

https://www.bva.bund.de/SharedDocs/Downloads/DE/Buerger/Ausweis-Dokumente-Recht/Staatsangehoerigkeit/Feststellung/Paket_erw_kind.pdf?__blob=publicationFile&v=20

Yes, and it's well worth doing.

DH is half German (German dad, English mum), lived in UK all his life. As soon as Brexit appeared on the horizon he applied for his German passport. It took a long time, but as soon as he had his passport our 2 DC were able to apply for theirs which came through quite quickly.

One is currently studying & working in Germany, the other can now work anywhere in the EU if they want.

I can't tell you how to do it though, as DH dealt with all the paperwork, and there was a lot of it ...

Start your DC on German lessons now OP. It's a great country and will open up so many more opportunities for them.

They all have dual nationality too, and take both passports when they travel so they can go through the shortest queue.

Let me think about that for a moment…. Oh yes - freedom of movement across 27 countries, freedom to live and work in 27 countries, freedom to stay in 27 countries for longer than 90 days in a year, freedom to be educated in 27 countries… all those things we once had….

... and free or reduced entry to many European sights like Palace of Versailles, Acropolis in Athens or the Coloseum in Rome. (... for under 24/26 depending on country).

OP's DH was born before 2000 so no, it's not too late.

@Germanpassport

Any progress on this, OP?

We do that, we also sneak my UK one to the bottom of the pile - never been sent to the other queue yet!
I think it will change before long though

my DH is half German but both his parents held German passports so his mother was considered to be German too. DH had had a German passport( born in London) but had had to give it up when he got a UK passport.
He discovered this year that he could hold both UK and German passports and the prices was quite simple. He had to go to German embassy with his birth certificate and old and existing passports. They sent him his passport a few weeks later and said the ( young adult) kids and myself would also qualify, just need to make appointments.

@TheSquareMile not at the moment because we didn't have the spare ££ to order the long birth certificate. By pay day we can order those and then make the application.

@vdbfamily really?? It sounds far more complicated, did he have to give any documentation re his mum or dad whichever parent is German?
Or literally just his current UK, old German and birth certificates?

Thats interesting.
DH and The DC have german passports but our research suggests that I can't get one unless we spend 2 years living there.
I would be delighted if I could get one sooner than Retirement

Just email the german embassy and they'll answer all your questions

Be aware that rules change so the advice they give you now may have changed slightly next year if you don't act on it

Wise to hold more passports if you are eligible.