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Reality of life in UK under current government

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Melisha · 03/07/2024 13:26

I think people need reminding of what life is currently like in the UK and did not used to be the case.

  1. Potholes galore. Every time I drive I am trying to avoid potholes.
  2. Our local river keeps getting sewage discharged into it.
  3. Our local beach is no longer safe to swim in because of sewage.
  4. We have more street homelessness than I have ever seen in my life time, and I am old.
  5. More local food banks than ever before.
  6. More litter and less street sweeping.
  7. Much longer queues at A and E and queues of ambulances outside.
  8. Long waits for operations. I have been waiting 16 months for a gallbladder operation.
  9. Shoplifting way up. I live in a well off area and yet have seen people blatantly shoplifting in front of staff. I never saw this ever until a year ago.
  10. Rape practically legal as conviction rate is tiny.

Please add your own.

OP posts:
Crikeyalmighty · 03/07/2024 18:15

@1dayatatime totally agree-

Bewareofthisonetoo · 03/07/2024 18:26

People on MN are endlessly referring to the nirvana that is ‘other countries’ without having the slightest understanding of what is happening ‘there’. Europe has massively voted for right wing parties, not because of ‘racism’ but because of realism. In the UK we have been cosseted by the govt that everyone want to get rid of. So yes people will vote with the luxury of privilege for ‘change’ … and then latterly come to realise that our European friends got the reality before we did and now we are going to be severely trashed for the next parliament.

Alwaystired94 · 03/07/2024 18:26

Churchview · 03/07/2024 18:14

We will survive our woes no matter who is elected.

I'm hoping for more from the next government than just survival.

not to mention it’s not even true for all. what about the disabled? the poor? all of the other groups who are targeted by Tory Policies

Summerfreezemakesmedrinkwine · 03/07/2024 18:28

Alwaystired94 · 03/07/2024 18:26

not to mention it’s not even true for all. what about the disabled? the poor? all of the other groups who are targeted by Tory Policies

Which of the things which Reeves has said about those with disabilities that makes you optimistic that their quality of life will improve under a Labour government?

ehhdh · 03/07/2024 18:29

OP you have said you understand economics.

Can you explain how the £5bn that Starmer wants from non doms will actually materialise? Specifically, why will these people not immediately run off to Monaco and Dubai in order to avoid paying that vast amount of money? As I do not understand why that kind of globally mobile person would stay in an environment - the UK - with an adverse tax situation under a labour govt.

thanks if you or anyone else can explain it

cupcaske123 · 03/07/2024 18:36

1dayatatime · 03/07/2024 17:53

@cupcaske123

"Unfortunately at the time, the Global Crash that began in the States wasn't predicted. Brown was under pressure by both the financial sector and the Tories not to over regulate. The reason for the crash were complex, multinational and systematic rather than national."

Let's unpick this.

Firstly the Global crash which was caused by excessive debt (Government, Corporate and individual) was predicted by many such as Vince Cable, numerous newspaper headlines - I suggest you watch "The Big Short"

Labour like many Governments worldwide did nothing to reign in some very questionable financial practices- remember Northern Rocks 120% LTV mortgages or Bradford and Bingley's liar loans? There was no pressure from the Conservatives not to tighten regulations. The reason Labour chose not to was because if they did then the party would stop and there would a small crash thereby making them unpopular but by letting it run they allowed a bigger crash to happen later on. Personally if the Conservatives were in charge then I don't think they would have done anything different.

The reason for the crash was relatively simple- excess debt. Yes it was international and yes it was systemic because the money markets across the world are linked. However countries such as China or India were less affected because at the time they had less debt.

No the reason for the crash and subsequent recession was not debt. It was due to excess mortgage lending, especially in the US. Unsustainable house prices, banks worldwide purchasing subprime mortgage debt and deregulation of the financial sector in the 80s and 90s making it easier for banks to increase lending and reduce reserve ratios.

Alwaystired94 · 03/07/2024 18:36

Summerfreezemakesmedrinkwine · 03/07/2024 18:28

Which of the things which Reeves has said about those with disabilities that makes you optimistic that their quality of life will improve under a Labour government?

so they should take being the tory punching bag?
the vast majority of people with disabilities are working. just as most people who receive PIP are working.

there are disabled people who are being failed with their healthcare which is leaving them unable to work. they want to work but because of wait lists for treatments and such they aren’t able to. how will cutting 12billion from the PIP fund help those people?

Summerfreezemakesmedrinkwine · 03/07/2024 18:40

?? Yes, I'm aware, being one of them. What has Labour said that makes you think life for those with disabilities will improve under a Labour government?

Alwaystired94 · 03/07/2024 18:46

Summerfreezemakesmedrinkwine · 03/07/2024 18:40

?? Yes, I'm aware, being one of them. What has Labour said that makes you think life for those with disabilities will improve under a Labour government?

i am one also!

berger access to healthcare to help manage my condition. my pain. better access to healthcare so things can be caught early. better funding within schools mean support can be administered where it’s needed.

they’re not wanting to cut 12billion from PIP. which is incredibly difficult to get anyway.

www.benefitsandwork.co.uk/news/poll-results-would-labour-be-better-than-the-conservatives-for-disabled-claimants

Unphased · 03/07/2024 18:50

Melisha · 03/07/2024 17:04

@Unphased the country is in a mess. Economically and public service wise. People like you do not help the situation. It is people like you who voted for the Brexit bus with zero understanding of the economic impact.
Vote for the current conservative government, you clearly are going to. But if you got your wish and they got in, our economy would sink even lower.
I am ambitious for our country. I know things can be better.

You couldn’t be further from the truth, didn’t vote for Brexit and certainly not going to vote Tory, as of this minute, probably not going to vote at all, first time in nearly 60 years.

Summerfreezemakesmedrinkwine · 03/07/2024 18:50

I'm not convinced that the NHS will improve under Streeting or that Reeves will be any less ruthless with her red pen. I guess we'll see.

Alwaystired94 · 03/07/2024 18:52

Summerfreezemakesmedrinkwine · 03/07/2024 18:50

I'm not convinced that the NHS will improve under Streeting or that Reeves will be any less ruthless with her red pen. I guess we'll see.

Edited

i hope that your assumptions are proven wrong and you see an improvement in your life and NHS experience

Summerfreezemakesmedrinkwine · 03/07/2024 18:53

Alwaystired94 · 03/07/2024 18:52

i hope that your assumptions are proven wrong and you see an improvement in your life and NHS experience

Cheers. This all gets a bit spicy on the eve of an election but all the same to you .

Unphased · 03/07/2024 18:54

Alwaystired94 · 03/07/2024 16:45

asylum seekers are not illegal immigrants.

Oh so which country will allow us to set up processing centers? Why would they take that on when they will be processing their own? To claim asylum you have to be IN the UK so that doesn't make sense does it.

Ordinary people aren't unable to get houses because of 'illegal immigrants'. Its down to house prices have sky rocketed for many reasons including council houses being sold off and not replenished so our social housing stock is low. We need many things to shake up our housing situation including more social housing, more affordable houses to buy across the board, less extortionately high rents from private landlords and better controls on landlords.

If our own people can’t get house for your reasons, what hope have the illegal immigrants of buying or renting one?

Unphased · 03/07/2024 19:00

DefyingGravitas · 03/07/2024 17:56

Do you have a better plan?

Yes, vote for someone new,

Alwaystired94 · 03/07/2024 19:05

Unphased · 03/07/2024 18:54

If our own people can’t get house for your reasons, what hope have the illegal immigrants of buying or renting one?

none because asylum seekers are not illegal immigrants.

Alwaystired94 · 03/07/2024 19:06

Summerfreezemakesmedrinkwine · 03/07/2024 18:53

Cheers. This all gets a bit spicy on the eve of an election but all the same to you .

keeping my fingers crossed - it’s been a dark place for me.

DefyingGravitas · 03/07/2024 19:07

Unphased · 03/07/2024 19:00

Yes, vote for someone new,

Yes, exactly.

Franzkafkascat · 03/07/2024 19:45

ehhdh · 03/07/2024 18:29

OP you have said you understand economics.

Can you explain how the £5bn that Starmer wants from non doms will actually materialise? Specifically, why will these people not immediately run off to Monaco and Dubai in order to avoid paying that vast amount of money? As I do not understand why that kind of globally mobile person would stay in an environment - the UK - with an adverse tax situation under a labour govt.

thanks if you or anyone else can explain it

Fair enough but you do know that the Tory black hole is even bigger ?
How will they be funding crumbling public services if they are cutting tax and NIC ?
Or national service ?
Are you bothered about us leaving the ECHR ?

Unphased · 03/07/2024 19:46

Alwaystired94 · 03/07/2024 19:05

none because asylum seekers are not illegal immigrants.

That comments certainly solved the housing crisis

Unphased · 03/07/2024 19:47

DefyingGravitas · 03/07/2024 19:07

Yes, exactly.

By new I mean not Tory or Labour

Franzkafkascat · 03/07/2024 19:47

Summerfreezemakesmedrinkwine · 03/07/2024 17:37

Which of those people called Trump a 'woman-hating, neo-Nazi-sympathising sociopath'?

He is exactly that. What’s your problem ?

Another2Cats · 03/07/2024 19:48

LoveSandbanks · 03/07/2024 14:27

I’ve raised my children under this government, (22, 19, 15) and have seen the education system get more and more squeezed. I’ve seen the health service get more and more short of money, particularly mental health services. The demise of sure start centres which were proven to save money.

I’ve delivered food parcels to women (with children) who suddenly can’t work because they’ve been diagnosed with cancer and have to wait 5 weeks for any universal credit. Truly, I’d be ashamed to vote for a government that brought in measures like that.

"...have to wait 5 weeks for any universal credit."

Really? I think someone isn't quite telling the truth here.

Once you've gone through the process of verifying your identity at the Jobcentre you can get an immediate advance of up to your total monthly payment.

You then need to pay this back over anything from 6 to 24 months (you get to choose).

Here is an example. You apply for UC on 3rd July, the assessment period ends on 2nd August so you get your UC on 9th August. Your expected payment is £1,000.

You go along to the Jobcentre and provide all the stuff that they need, or do it online for housing costs etc.

This is quite often done within one week or perhaps two. You can then apply for an advance of up to your expected payment. You will receive this money within two or three days.

So, in this example, that is likely to be in mid July when you receive £1,000.

If you choose to repay over 24 months then, in this example £1,000/24 = £41.66 will be deducted from each payment and you will then receive £958.34 per month.

You will receive the first payment of £958.34 on the 9th August in this example.

So, it is entirely possible to get almost twice the monthly amount of UC within five weeks if you take an advance as soon as possible and then pay it back over 24 months.

Unphased · 03/07/2024 19:49

Alwaystired94 · 03/07/2024 19:05

none because asylum seekers are not illegal immigrants.

Yes of course I keep forgetting that all the people that arrive illegally by boat are in desperate need of asylum not just economic migrants