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What's with everyone writing 'Mom?'

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Ottersmith · 20/06/2024 23:33

Why is everyone writing Mom in their thread instead of 'mum'? Are you American? Are you from the Midlands? If neither of these then stop doing it. It's everywhere and it's so annoying.

OP posts:
VillageLifeIsTricky · 21/06/2024 03:18

OnTheRightSideOfGeography · 21/06/2024 00:25

And that 'gotten' - which appears nearly two dozen times in the King James Bible, published in Britain 165 years before the USA came into existence - is a modern lazy neologism that we've all only just started using because we've heard it in American TV programmes!

.."gotten" has always made me want to gouge my own eyes out. Have noticed it creeping into speech more and more here the last couple of years or so 🤢

bungletru · 21/06/2024 03:28

Mo-ther
mo-m

also midlander. But why is it so annoying for you? Get over it lol.

i say Mom not mum. M-um just sounds odd to me but it doesn’t upset me when people use it 😅

bungletru · 21/06/2024 03:30

Also, my school was called X high school. So why would I not call it a high school?

ps, the lower, middle school etc isn’t a Worcestershire thing only - some Yorkshire schools do it too

ApolloandDaphne · 21/06/2024 05:47

Summertimer · 21/06/2024 00:02

It’s the same as ‘high school’, most real people say secondary school or senior school

High school is used in Scotland. That's how our schools are often named. I went to Townname High School.

Itsmomnotmum64 · 21/06/2024 06:06

My user name says it all!
Lifelong Brummie here.

Ilovelurchers · 21/06/2024 06:14

Ottersmith · 21/06/2024 02:22

Why are so many Americans getting offended on here? My post says if you aren't American or from the Midlands then stop it. I couldn't give a shit what you call your mother. I get annoyed with British non Midlanders using it in posts when they say Mum in real life.

I mean, strictly speaking you DO give a shit what people call their mother, because you started a thread about it. You may not care what they call her to her face, but you care (some might say inexplicably?) what they call her on here.

I am Midlands which is why I use it. But in the past I would have stuck to the conventional "mum" on a forum like this. It's only recently I decided to embrace my dialect more and not be ashamed of it. That night be a common theme - people becoming more proud of their heritage and confident to use their dialect spelling on an informal forum like this.

faffadoodledo · 21/06/2024 06:16

My dear Dad was a scouser who migrated to the Midlands before fetching up in more coastal climes and meeting my Mum. He used Mom in written form until dementia robbed him of his words. He always said it was Liverpudlian.

That said, I've noticed it being used by people who aren't from either of those places. It's definitely creeping in. The derivation I dislike most though is Momma as in Momma Bear. Urgh. If the writers of the phrase think they're being cool and American, they're not. Americans may pronounce it Momma, but they write it Mama. At least that's what I observed while living in the southern states.

'Can I get?' also annoys me. It definitely arrived on these shores with Friends (which I adored) and Starbucks (which I didn't) in the 1990s.

MillshakePickle · 21/06/2024 06:23

Summertimer · 21/06/2024 00:02

It’s the same as ‘high school’, most real people say secondary school or senior school

Not everyone is British, and I went to high school and have a mom. Plus, I use loafs of words that are not commonly in use over here. It's just who I am and how I speak. I think of myself as a mom, not a mum. My kids call me mom. But use mum at school.

We're apparently bilingual.

NineChickennuggets · 21/06/2024 06:31

I have a mom. My parents had moms. Dh has a mam. His mam had a mammy. None of us have mums.

BreatheAndFocus · 21/06/2024 06:35

Yep, I find it annoying too, OP. Note - but not if that’s naturally what they call their mother. Just emphasising that as some people seem to be missing the point. I know a number of people who’ve always called themselves Mum or Mummy, but are now referring to themselves as ‘Mom’. It sounds weird and Americanised because it’s not what they’d naturally say. I’ve also had parents write it on school forms or letters even though I know they’re a Mum or Mummy.

It’s another Americanism like ‘Good Job’ (hate that one!), ‘gotten’, etc, and my pet hate, the unnecessary verb additions, eg swap out, change up, etc.

And again for all the people who normally use the word Mom, I don’t mean you.

MimiSunshine · 21/06/2024 06:36

Summertimer · 21/06/2024 00:02

It’s the same as ‘high school’, most real people say secondary school or senior school

I went to a High School. Yes it was a secondary school but it was also 200+ years old and had always been called ”Tree Hil” High School

OMGsamesame · 21/06/2024 06:39

floppybit · 21/06/2024 00:31

We only started saying mom since mom jeans came into fashion. UK retailers knew people wouldn't be looking online for mum jeans, so they called them mom jeans like they do in the states to get maximum hits. I had literally never heard mom before this.

No we didn't.

OhshutupDerek · 21/06/2024 06:39

gano · 21/06/2024 00:11

Same!

Me too and how rude to tell people to stop spelling it how they like!

JacksonAverysEyes · 21/06/2024 06:40

SinisterBumFacedCat · 21/06/2024 00:15

Yeah people are loosing the ability to pronounce the word “route” properly too.

And the ability to spell it would seem.

faffadoodledo · 21/06/2024 06:41

@BreatheAndFocus I must admit, while detesting 'Can I get', I do use 'good job' to interchange with 'well done'. My children attended a pre school in Texas many moons ago (where mama not momma was prevalent). And I rather liked the teachers' use of 'good job'. It moved with me back across the Atlantic.

Blackcats7 · 21/06/2024 06:42

Completely agree. There are other examples too. The use of “super” instead of very annoys me too.
”I’m super excited to see my mom”

JustGotToKeepOnKeepingOn · 21/06/2024 06:54

I have a mom, who had a mammy and I'm a mama. Hope that helps.

nippyout · 21/06/2024 06:55

Ottersmith · 21/06/2024 02:22

Why are so many Americans getting offended on here? My post says if you aren't American or from the Midlands then stop it. I couldn't give a shit what you call your mother. I get annoyed with British non Midlanders using it in posts when they say Mum in real life.

Telling people to 'stop it' and getting annoyed over it is quite the reaction.

I'm from the midlands and use mum - don't know anyone who uses mom, as an aside (never heard this was a thing for the midlands either).

If people use mom then I assume they are from America or somewhere else where that is the norm, or they just prefer it.

abracadabra1980 · 21/06/2024 06:57

I debated this constantly with exH. His theory was man=a shortened version of mammary as in mammary glands. I say mum, simply because that's what my mum brought me up to speak and write. Mam and mum are the two most common words used where I am (north). Mom is an Americanism.

toastofthetown · 21/06/2024 06:59

abracadabra1980 · 21/06/2024 06:57

I debated this constantly with exH. His theory was man=a shortened version of mammary as in mammary glands. I say mum, simply because that's what my mum brought me up to speak and write. Mam and mum are the two most common words used where I am (north). Mom is an Americanism.

Have you missed the numerous posters in this thread explaining that mom is the common word where they are in the UK and has been for generations…

faffadoodledo · 21/06/2024 07:00

faffadoodledo · 21/06/2024 06:16

My dear Dad was a scouser who migrated to the Midlands before fetching up in more coastal climes and meeting my Mum. He used Mom in written form until dementia robbed him of his words. He always said it was Liverpudlian.

That said, I've noticed it being used by people who aren't from either of those places. It's definitely creeping in. The derivation I dislike most though is Momma as in Momma Bear. Urgh. If the writers of the phrase think they're being cool and American, they're not. Americans may pronounce it Momma, but they write it Mama. At least that's what I observed while living in the southern states.

'Can I get?' also annoys me. It definitely arrived on these shores with Friends (which I adored) and Starbucks (which I didn't) in the 1990s.

To reinforce the scousers-say-mom point, when Dad died I looked through lots of old family letters and found Dad's parents also used Mom. Grandad even called granny Mom. So it was at least across two generations of Liverpudlians in our family. Dad was born in 1937. I don't now if it's still a thing.

SoupChicken · 21/06/2024 07:02

Where I grew up it was ‘me mam’ and now I live in a ‘mom’ area but my kids have taken to calling me ‘mama’ which I think they’ve picked up from a TV show, so I’ve never been ‘mum’. All in the UK, I think you just need to find out a bit more about your own country, the regional differences are fascinating.

Treaclewell · 21/06/2024 07:02

The thing which gets my goat is the mispronouncing of plant names ending in "wort" by otherwise educated people. Like "St Johns Wort", "liverwort" and so on. There is a cluster of words with the grouping of letter "wor" in them. Word. work, world, worm, worse, worst, worth, which all have a 'wur' sound. Note the exceptions, worn, worry. 'wort', spelled in Old English 'wyrt' is not an exception. One botanist on TV, interviewing a traditional academic, picked up her correct form while with her, but slid back by the time he got back to his lab. I think the habit crept in with the use of St John's Wort for depression among people whose mum had not taken them through the countryside telling them the names of plants, and I think the US may be implicated.

But thanks to the poster who has explained that Sheldon's name for his grandmother is not a Sheldonism, but local dialect.

toastofthetown · 21/06/2024 07:05

Ottersmith · 21/06/2024 02:22

Why are so many Americans getting offended on here? My post says if you aren't American or from the Midlands then stop it. I couldn't give a shit what you call your mother. I get annoyed with British non Midlanders using it in posts when they say Mum in real life.

How would you even know though? I’ve never had to provide a candid voice sample with my pronunciation of Mum/Mom to MN so other posters can verify what I write. Even trawling through a poster’s history won’t help, as a lot of people will deliberately obfuscate their location and place of birth for anonymity reasons. I’ve never noticed more than a scant handful of ‘Mom’ posts on MN. I’ve seen considerably more posts complaining about the use of it.

Footle · 21/06/2024 07:06

@Watercoloursky , Mutti is a fine name but she doesn't need the umlaut.