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Mad Men Is it worth watching ?

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Peeppuandpopo · 14/06/2024 07:55

Appreciate that I’m very very late to the game ! Watched the first two episodes last night, enjoyed it somewhat but can’t work out whether it’s worth watching the other 7 seven series….. Read that the last episode of all was apparently brilliant. Is it really that good ?

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Cynic17 · 09/01/2025 13:04

It's fabulous, but even factoring in that it starts in 1960, the sexism is just breathtaking.
But Don Draper is so intriguing, and the aesthetic of the whole thing is beautiful.

PontiacFirebird · 09/01/2025 13:05

Oh, the clothes, the martinis, the cigarettes, the sets…just for the way it all looks I’d watch it, but it’s brilliantly written and acted too.

Printedword · 09/01/2025 13:15

I didn't dislike it, but it's a bit over rated. Also, USA in the 1960s - were the homes of the reasonably well off really so much more sophisticated than equivalent middle classes in the UK? Having lived there in the 00s I can't get my head round it being so different

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Almahart · 09/01/2025 13:49

debauchedsloth · 09/01/2025 12:27

Just to check if we share tastes - I've never tried Madmen but always wondered, and am looking for a new mega-series.... do those of you who love it also love Breaking Bad and say Succession and Better Call Saul?

Yep! You will love it

worrisomeasset · 09/01/2025 14:01

It starts very slowly. I watched the first 2 or 3 or so episodes and found them to be very dull, so I abandoned it. I know lots of people say it gets better but I really can’t be arsed.

dothedanceofjoy · 09/01/2025 17:57

debauchedsloth · 09/01/2025 12:27

Just to check if we share tastes - I've never tried Madmen but always wondered, and am looking for a new mega-series.... do those of you who love it also love Breaking Bad and say Succession and Better Call Saul?

I loved all of those!

Shoemadlady · 09/01/2025 20:40

It's amazing, don't miss it

MammaTo · 09/01/2025 21:02

It is a slow burner and not very “action packed”, I don’t know what it is but I find it weirdly hypnotic and relaxing to watch. But I really enjoy it and so happy it’s back on Netflix.

ethelredonagoodday · 09/01/2025 22:38

debauchedsloth · 09/01/2025 12:27

Just to check if we share tastes - I've never tried Madmen but always wondered, and am looking for a new mega-series.... do those of you who love it also love Breaking Bad and say Succession and Better Call Saul?

Yes, definitely.

comedycentral · 09/01/2025 22:40

Yes! I rewatched it last year, so good.

sweetkitty · 09/01/2025 23:01

Loved it. Binged it when I was laid up (literally) with a broken sternum and could do nothing else.

Crinkle77 · 09/01/2025 23:43

Deadringer · 09/01/2025 11:17

I had high hopes for it but found it very boring. Maybe I will give it another go.

Me too. I was bored rigid.

NotOnThe · 11/01/2025 09:32

So I jumped to the final season this weekend.
Was on three so took a bit to get head around it.
Loved it
But not sure about the ending with Dan ? Is that all?
What did anyone else think?

Artyblartfast · 11/01/2025 09:35

It's fantastic. Only long series I've watched twice apart from the good wife. I love the cast and character development. It's just amazing.

John Hamm is v easy on the eye too....middle aged swoon Grin

Decisionsdecisions1 · 11/01/2025 13:21

I loved it, one of the best series I've seen.

It's a slow burn, long story arcs. This isn't a series that aims for quick thrills. The script is superb but nuanced (not rapid fire witticisms like Succession, which I also love).
It demands concentration - don't watch with one eye on your phone.

The story arcs of Peggy, Joan and Betty are at the heart of it. Don't be fooled by the Jon Hamm lead.

NorthRiding · 11/01/2025 13:26

Yes, Don is just a huge McGuffin - it's really all about the women.

Dolamroth · 11/01/2025 13:33

I love it, have watched it through several times.

It's funny and sad, thought provoking and beautiful to look at.

YYURYYUCICYYUR4ME · 11/01/2025 13:50

Yes, I watched when first shown and it is about the personal / professional stories for those employed in an ad agency. Very much a booming industry in the 60s, a time of real cultural change and challenges, both for women and the world in general. The characters grow throughout the series. One of those series I raved about and would recommend. Another is Boardwalk Empire.

protectthesmallones · 11/01/2025 14:00

Yes. I throughly enjoyed this series. Especially the bang on trend costumes for the era. Really enjoyable.

Mintearo7 · 11/01/2025 14:04

Yes, but I work in a similar industry so it interested me from that point of view plus it’s all very ‘easy on the eye’. I wouldn’t say it’s amazing storyline wise but I did get into it.

GingerFoxInAT0phat · 11/01/2025 14:04

One of my favourite series ever, I watched it late about 4 years ago - might give it another go now it’s on Netflix.

TeaAndStrumpets · 11/01/2025 14:06

YYURYYUCICYYUR4ME · 11/01/2025 13:50

Yes, I watched when first shown and it is about the personal / professional stories for those employed in an ad agency. Very much a booming industry in the 60s, a time of real cultural change and challenges, both for women and the world in general. The characters grow throughout the series. One of those series I raved about and would recommend. Another is Boardwalk Empire.

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Boardwalk Empire was amazing.

NotOnThe · 11/01/2025 21:09

So I'll watch it again. I loved loved and loved the costumes and sets so worth it for that alone.
And John is not bad to look at 🤣

Pedallleur · 11/01/2025 21:15

I was staggered by the constant smoking but my parents smoked and I grew up in the 70s. So easy to forget how it was. The main male characters are well off tho. Don wasn't but makes more as the series moves on. I loved the Joan character but wanted her to kill a couple of people.

HammockFullOfRats · 12/01/2025 14:14

@Pedallleur I grew up in the 90s in a non-smoking household, and to me the smoking in Mad Men was just part of the whole vibe and milieu of it. It wouldn't feel right without it.

But they definitely lean into it, and play on the fact that it was so ubiquitous then, and is so comparatively unacceptable now. In the first series or two, I'm sure the programme makers were deliberately putting in as many instances as possible where a character produces a surprise cigarette from yet another ingenious or ridiculous cigarette dispenser/hiding place — DP and I were watching it trying to guess where the next stash would be secreted.

[Spoilers for a scene from season 2 in the entire rest of my post: don't read anything in italics if you haven't seen that season yet but might want to in the future, as it's better when it's a surprise:]

They do seem to enjoy playing into things where behavioural norms have changed a lot, and occasionally shocking the sensibilities of a modern audience, e.g. the picnic scene in season 2. I think most people watching that scene would have the same kneejerk "What are they doing?!" reaction I did.

It's what looks like a nice, ordinary (if well-off) family, having a picnic in an idyllic-looking beauty spot somewhere. We know them as full, rounded characters we understand as people and can (maybe) sympathise with. We know that they consider themselves upright members of the community, and that they're keen to keep up appearances, present themselves well, and keep their home and garden beautiful. We've seen that the parents care that their children reflect well on them, and that they have high standards for their presentation and behaviour, and aren't afraid to discipline them.

We might notice that they've driven directly to the picnic spot, parked up there, and are playing the car radio with the door open (maybe with the engine running?), and absorb those differences from how an equivalent modern family might behave (or be allowed to behave). Standard stuff for the show, and by this point anyone still watching is used to taking in, and probably enjoying noticing, those differences.

When they're finished, Don suddenly stands up and lobs his beer can into the distance, and while you process that breach of modern cultural norms (maybe wondering if that would've been acceptable even then, or whether it's supposed to say something about Don's character or state of mind), you watch the adults strictly insist on checking the children's hands for cleanliness. The combination feels almost contradictory to a modern mindset — so focused on cleanliness in one way, yet not at all in another. Then just as you're starting to move past the beer can shocker, Betty picks up the blanket, shakes off enough empty packaging and other crap to fill a kitchen bin, and they walk off to the car, leaving behind a pile of rubbish to sit on the grass or disperse in the wind, in this previously beautiful picnic spot.

Nobody mentions anything about it — it's obviously utterly routine, with no hint they think they're doing anything unusual at all. And then straight into the next scene. Clearly played to shock the audience, but not dwelt upon or referenced ever again, like any totally normal behaviour. I don't know how realistic it is as a representation of the attitudes and behaviour of wealthy middle class 1960s people in that part of America, but it's very effective at quickly communicating major differences in mindset. And also, maybe, prompting reflection on things like whether our mindset is really so different, or whether we just do the same kind of thing but in less immediately obvious ways. Or on why it is I'm apparently more shocked by the littering than by the casual sexism, racism and anti-Semitism.

The extent of the smoking, the littering, the drinking, the drunk driving, the misogyny, the racism, and the other differences (or not-so-differences) are part of the point, especially in the early seasons IMO. Things like that picnic scene, cheap trick though it was, were one of the reasons I enjoyed the early seasons of Mad Men so much.