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Rishi Sunak went without Sky TV so his parents could send him to private school

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number10bus · 12/06/2024 08:35

Honestly this has really annoyed me, apart from the fact it's such crap - he came from a family where his parents were a GP and a pharmacist, it's like he's literally thought of the most working class stereotype and applied that. He's so out of touch and I don't know why this one has annoyed me so much but it really has.

I'm not much older than our prime minister and we didn't have one either, or holidays and not much in the way of any luxury items and guess what my parents couldn't afford to send me to private school despite them working very hard too.

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Henrysotherwoman · 16/06/2024 17:08

He's so out of touch...was that supposed to make us think otherwise? We had no heating as kids, no flushing loo (it wasn't even in the house), no holidays, no money, and only just able to eat some days. He's going to have to go a long way to get me on his side...well, they all are!

Henrysotherwoman · 16/06/2024 17:11

I bet he wished he'd never said it 😄

What a tool.

JustAnotherDadOf2 · 17/06/2024 12:33

I'm sorry, but the interviewers question was ridiculous. Sunak can't change his childhood and upbringing, and the fact that his parents worked hard and were successful and brought him up with a decent standard of living is just as valid a reality as a child who was brought up by parents who who enjoyed less career success, or parents that abused or neglected their children.
This does not mean he is out of touch, just that his 'touch' is not the same as yours. My 75yr old mum grew up on a farm in yorkshire, and took a candle to bed, water from a well, no electricity until 8 or telephone until 15, tin bath by the fire. The whole shebang. She doesn't consider herself to be deprived or that I am out of touch as this has not been my life experience.
Honestly, I'd rather be governed by someone who has aspirations and high expectations - wouldn't you?

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JustAnotherDadOf2 · 17/06/2024 12:33

I'm sorry, but the interviewers question was ridiculous. Sunak can't change his childhood and upbringing, and the fact that his parents worked hard and were successful and brought him up with a decent standard of living is just as valid a reality as a child who was brought up by parents who who enjoyed less career success, or parents that abused or neglected their children.
This does not mean he is out of touch, just that his 'touch' is not the same as yours. My 75yr old mum grew up on a farm in yorkshire, and took a candle to bed, water from a well, no electricity until 8 or telephone until 15, tin bath by the fire. The whole shebang. She doesn't consider herself to be deprived or that I am out of touch as this has not been my life experience.
Honestly, I'd rather be governed by someone who has aspirations and high expectations - wouldn't you?

You missed the point though. It's not about having grown up well off. People would be fine with that if he acknowleged it. It's the dishonesty of trying to present himself as having dragged himself out of poverty. People don't like him cosplaying being them. It's insulting.

Alexandra2001 · 17/06/2024 16:48

JustAnotherDadOf2 · 17/06/2024 12:33

I'm sorry, but the interviewers question was ridiculous. Sunak can't change his childhood and upbringing, and the fact that his parents worked hard and were successful and brought him up with a decent standard of living is just as valid a reality as a child who was brought up by parents who who enjoyed less career success, or parents that abused or neglected their children.
This does not mean he is out of touch, just that his 'touch' is not the same as yours. My 75yr old mum grew up on a farm in yorkshire, and took a candle to bed, water from a well, no electricity until 8 or telephone until 15, tin bath by the fire. The whole shebang. She doesn't consider herself to be deprived or that I am out of touch as this has not been my life experience.
Honestly, I'd rather be governed by someone who has aspirations and high expectations - wouldn't you?

Then why not just say that? "I didn't go without anything, i was extremely fortunate but my driving ambition is make life better for all families in the UK"
Instead we got all this man of people bullshit.

Sunak (along with most other Tories) appears to have aspirations and expectations only for himself and people like him.

The rest of us are just a means to an end.

He displays an arrogance that quite honestly, i ve rarely seen in a politician, this remark, the D-Day stuff, are all the hallmarks of a man completely at odds with most ordinary people.

Donsyb · 17/06/2024 17:39

JustAnotherDadOf2 · 17/06/2024 12:33

I'm sorry, but the interviewers question was ridiculous. Sunak can't change his childhood and upbringing, and the fact that his parents worked hard and were successful and brought him up with a decent standard of living is just as valid a reality as a child who was brought up by parents who who enjoyed less career success, or parents that abused or neglected their children.
This does not mean he is out of touch, just that his 'touch' is not the same as yours. My 75yr old mum grew up on a farm in yorkshire, and took a candle to bed, water from a well, no electricity until 8 or telephone until 15, tin bath by the fire. The whole shebang. She doesn't consider herself to be deprived or that I am out of touch as this has not been my life experience.
Honestly, I'd rather be governed by someone who has aspirations and high expectations - wouldn't you?

Did you actually hear the interview?

SerendipityJane · 18/06/2024 09:26

Then why not just say that? "I didn't go without anything, i was extremely fortunate but my driving ambition is make life better for all families in the UK"

Because he doesn't believe that for a second. He has no interest in you, your family, it's problems, and the horse you rode into town on. Zero. Nothing. Nada. As him what his biggest worry in the UK today is, and child poverty, inequality, struggling health and school systems will be nowhere near his list. Which is topped by "how do I heat my swimming pool" closely followed by "I hope I can get Coke in American in July when I move".

Mcal · 18/06/2024 13:49

JustAnotherDadOf2 · 17/06/2024 12:33

I'm sorry, but the interviewers question was ridiculous. Sunak can't change his childhood and upbringing, and the fact that his parents worked hard and were successful and brought him up with a decent standard of living is just as valid a reality as a child who was brought up by parents who who enjoyed less career success, or parents that abused or neglected their children.
This does not mean he is out of touch, just that his 'touch' is not the same as yours. My 75yr old mum grew up on a farm in yorkshire, and took a candle to bed, water from a well, no electricity until 8 or telephone until 15, tin bath by the fire. The whole shebang. She doesn't consider herself to be deprived or that I am out of touch as this has not been my life experience.
Honestly, I'd rather be governed by someone who has aspirations and high expectations - wouldn't you?

I am confused that you would find the question ridiculous.

The context is that a politician was offered a chance to argue that he understands the hardship some of his potential voters experience.
He replied that his understanding of hardship and deprivation is about renouncing to something quite worthless and to stop competing with the Joneses for a while, in order to afford an expensive education.

This is an example of clever planning when you have plenty of resources, but not an unlimited amount of them. It is an investor reasoning, what do I do with my surplus? Shall I squander it, or shall I invest it to make me more money down the line?

This is not the situation many parents with mortgages, or struggling to put together a deposit, will recognize themselves into when taking hard choices about their money.
That kind of families wonder what the next prime minister and his government will think of the gravity of their problems.
Sunak answer is not very reassuring.

Regarding aspirations, there is little doubt that, when it comes to himself and his own, Sunak is a man of great aspirations, just like his parents before him.
But let's be factual.
Sunak's parents had a degree at at time when relatively few people did and getting one put a worker on an entirely different playing field.
It was a time when having a degree in law or even literature was enough to qualify for management positions with IBM or in other improbable, unrelated fields. Competition was really low, unlike now.
His parents built on that advantage to give their son an even larger advantage, through expensive education and the connections it brings (not unlike pretty much all tories).

So what is vision and aspiration for the average person in the country. Something like what he had?
We know that he suggested an increase in apprenticeships just out of school. A year of national service which, behind is dubious usefulness, will keep busy the young at an age when he was instead working on his own aspirations.

None of the paths he suggests most people should follow resemble what he actually did to succesfully pursue his own ambitions.
Sunak does not come across as somebody who looks at his own upbringing as a lucky thing. He perhaps feel that his parents were worthy and he is worthy too.

He is a less absurd candidate as a 'man of the people' than say Trump or Johnson, at least he worked an actual job, put not by a wide margin.
He is also less of a joke, less openly dishonest, than Farage, but just because Farage is quite spectacular in that respect.

Alexandra2001 · 18/06/2024 16:59

SerendipityJane · 18/06/2024 09:26

Then why not just say that? "I didn't go without anything, i was extremely fortunate but my driving ambition is make life better for all families in the UK"

Because he doesn't believe that for a second. He has no interest in you, your family, it's problems, and the horse you rode into town on. Zero. Nothing. Nada. As him what his biggest worry in the UK today is, and child poverty, inequality, struggling health and school systems will be nowhere near his list. Which is topped by "how do I heat my swimming pool" closely followed by "I hope I can get Coke in American in July when I move".

I read something about Bojo recently, he apparently, has zero interest in anyone less well off than he is.

These people move in a certain circle and thats who they care about, not anyone on MN, we plebs are just a means to an end.

JL690 · 20/06/2024 22:44

I still cannot stop thinking I'm hearing Will from The Inbetweeners every time Rishi Sunak speaks. Very superficial but that's what I think of whenever I hear him.

rainingsnoring · 21/06/2024 11:50

JL690 · 20/06/2024 22:44

I still cannot stop thinking I'm hearing Will from The Inbetweeners every time Rishi Sunak speaks. Very superficial but that's what I think of whenever I hear him.

I know what you mean. He reminds me of an over confident public school boy who doesn't know much but thinks he does.
His performance on QT last night showed just how unpleasant a person he is.

Pemba · 21/06/2024 15:18

I didn't see it, how did he behave?

Beachballplayer · 21/06/2024 20:58

Finestwinesknowntoman · 14/06/2024 06:22

Indeed.

You should ask this question on the question section where Rishi is going to be a guest on Mumsnet.

DeadParrott · 21/06/2024 21:22

JL690 · 20/06/2024 22:44

I still cannot stop thinking I'm hearing Will from The Inbetweeners every time Rishi Sunak speaks. Very superficial but that's what I think of whenever I hear him.

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