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Rishi Sunak went without Sky TV so his parents could send him to private school

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number10bus · 12/06/2024 08:35

Honestly this has really annoyed me, apart from the fact it's such crap - he came from a family where his parents were a GP and a pharmacist, it's like he's literally thought of the most working class stereotype and applied that. He's so out of touch and I don't know why this one has annoyed me so much but it really has.

I'm not much older than our prime minister and we didn't have one either, or holidays and not much in the way of any luxury items and guess what my parents couldn't afford to send me to private school despite them working very hard too.

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BitOutOfPractice · 14/06/2024 07:42

@Clavinova I don’t agree with much you say but I have a sneaking regard for your single minded tenacity. It does make me wonder though when I see you post so often, don’t you have a job? I hope you’re not one of these feckless work shy layabouts? 😉

Did you all see the poll where only 13% of voters think Sunak is the most in touch with voters (71% I think for Starmer). That is a disastrous number. I can’t remember a poll number lower than that.

I think Sky-gate has been just as damaging with a section of voters (people seriously struggling with the COL crisis) as the D-Day debacle was with another section (pensioners).

Juneday · 14/06/2024 08:28

I listened to the interview and they were pushing him to come up with something so clearly he remembered missing out on Sky. I doubt it was a big money saving decision, more about focussing on academic ambitions of his family - who are clearly impressed with upper and upper middle classes and aspired for that. Probably thought these types don’t have Sky. I am not a fan of Rishi, I think he is academic and hard working but naive, lacking in original thought and real intelligence that comes from thinking outside the box. He is a conformist who is impressed by and aspires to be amongst the elite who are so far out of touch….. but they largely don’t care. They believe they are where they are because they derserve it, and can’t see luck, family money and self serving attitudes largely got a number there …. They have no humility!!

widgie · 14/06/2024 08:42

Boo hoo I really feel sorry for you, when I grew up there were only three channels and mobile phones were something out of Star Trek. My Nan had to pop round the smelly phone box to make a call and I went to the local bog standard comprehensive where I managed to eke out 12 o levels and 2 A levels . And I was the first person in my family to get a degree so I think your leg up in life sounds pretty cushtie or should I say Rush-di !

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Iwasafool · 14/06/2024 08:42

souptalk · 13/06/2024 20:43

starmer said exactly the same thing. Although he was 27 years old so not really a child when Sky was launched. But then again, no matter what PM would have said, you would still not feel sorry for him. Some cultural background pay a lot more emphasis to good education and are willing to pay for it. Ask the striking doctors out there and they will tell you doctors are not really rich.

Surely Starmer was being sarcastic about what Sunak said? I didn't hear it but I doubt he actually said, "I did without a lot as achild, as an example we didn't have Sky." Maybe quote what he actually said so we can judge.

Everygrain · 14/06/2024 08:56

His parents probably thought it was a bit common like some thought ITV was, the dishes were huge and a bit unsightly, I can't recall that it was expensive, we didn't have much money but had it, I questioned DH about it as I can't recall watching it much but DH said we got it in the early days as it was the only place that had some American motorsport on that he liked.

Rosscameasdoody · 14/06/2024 11:37

Iwasafool · 14/06/2024 08:42

Surely Starmer was being sarcastic about what Sunak said? I didn't hear it but I doubt he actually said, "I did without a lot as achild, as an example we didn't have Sky." Maybe quote what he actually said so we can judge.

Yep. I think it was more long the lines of a ‘so what ?’comment - people of Starmers’ age wouldn’t have grown up with Sky TV as it didn’t exist when they were kids. It was just factual.

frankentall · 14/06/2024 12:55

@Chezza2502
I like Rishi, I'm not a tory supporter but I will defo be voting for him over that sloth starmer and his leaning right-wing labour goofs.
How would voting Tory make you "not a Tory Supporter"?

ThePenguinIsDrunk · 14/06/2024 13:04

How to tell me you've never gone without, without telling me you've never gone without.

MyQuaintDog · 14/06/2024 13:22

Everygrain · 14/06/2024 08:56

His parents probably thought it was a bit common like some thought ITV was, the dishes were huge and a bit unsightly, I can't recall that it was expensive, we didn't have much money but had it, I questioned DH about it as I can't recall watching it much but DH said we got it in the early days as it was the only place that had some American motorsport on that he liked.

We were piss poor so did not have it. But it was like having Netflix today in terms of expense. And it was thought of as common. There is no way Sunak's family would ever have Sky because of that.

Grammarnut · 14/06/2024 14:59

MyQuaintDog · 14/06/2024 13:22

We were piss poor so did not have it. But it was like having Netflix today in terms of expense. And it was thought of as common. There is no way Sunak's family would ever have Sky because of that.

afaik my ex-brother-in-law and wife (GP and pharmacist) have Sky.

Grammarnut · 14/06/2024 14:59

BringMeSunshineAllDayLong · 12/06/2024 08:55

I feel really bad for my 28 year old. We didn't send him to private school despite never having Sky AND he doesn't eat avocado toast and he can't afford to buy a house. Where are we going wrong, I just don't understand 😭

You haven't arranged for him to marry the daughter of a billionaire.

Donsyb · 14/06/2024 16:41

Grammarnut · 14/06/2024 14:59

afaik my ex-brother-in-law and wife (GP and pharmacist) have Sky.

I think things have changed since Rishi was a kid and these days it’s more “acceptable” to have sky, especially since most of the sport is on it.

MRSsqueak · 14/06/2024 16:46

our kids will say we didnt have healthcare if him and his mates stay in power.... literally selling the NHS off bit by bit

BringMeSunshineAllDayLong · 14/06/2024 17:11

Grammarnut · 14/06/2024 14:59

You haven't arranged for him to marry the daughter of a billionaire.

Oh shit. Parenting fail 101.
Must do better with the next 3 kids. Currently we live near a premier league club plays maybe I can flag down a player and
Marry off one of the teens.

kenyaswhiterefrigerator · 14/06/2024 17:54

Did Rishi's sister genuinely go to a state school. I'd be very surprised if so. I can appreciate she may not have gone to a school as prestigious as Winchester boys but a state school in Southampton seems unlikely

WindsurfingDreams · 14/06/2024 17:57

kenyaswhiterefrigerator · 14/06/2024 17:54

Did Rishi's sister genuinely go to a state school. I'd be very surprised if so. I can appreciate she may not have gone to a school as prestigious as Winchester boys but a state school in Southampton seems unlikely

I knew quite a few families that did this (I am similar age to Rishi) and even the other day I was chatting to someone who was coming up with all sorts of reasons why her two boys need to go to private school but her daughter doesn't

It is, unfortunately, still a mindset some people have.

Alltheyearround · 14/06/2024 18:26

mathanxiety · 13/06/2024 20:59

And there is a concomitant idea, sometimes a little vague or woolly, and sometimes expressed as a half-formed thought, but deeply embedded all the same, that people who send their children to state schools belong to a culture that doesn't value education (because if they valued it they would be willing to pay for it or would work whatever hours it took at umpteen jobs to make that happen for their children).

The idea that all schools should be superb, that parents would have an equal choice, and the fact that poor quality schools hold Britain back, doesn't seem to penetrate.

Well put - you have hit the nail on the head there.

For many people, however much they value education for themselves or their children, private is never going to be an option now matter how many jobs they have. Sometimes because there are no private schools within even a 45 minute drive.

DS is mainstream/state but we used to take him to swimming lessons 1:1 that happened in the pool of a private prep school 45 mins away. He has SEN so we needed a specific teaching method.

When I peeped into their computer lab/tech classroom I almost cried.

The difference between what those children got - resource wise alone - made me realise what a massive gulf there is between state (teachers buying pens and prit stick for the children) and private (latest of everything, great array of Lego Technics for things like building robots).

State schools try their best but they are Cinderella with no fairy godmother to hand. If only I had a magic wand to wave so that all children had access to a classroom like that (and excellent staff with good morale to go with it who didn't need to worry about where the next Prit Stick is coming from).

Clavinova · 14/06/2024 19:44

BitOutOfPractice · 14/06/2024 07:42

@Clavinova I don’t agree with much you say but I have a sneaking regard for your single minded tenacity. It does make me wonder though when I see you post so often, don’t you have a job? I hope you’re not one of these feckless work shy layabouts? 😉

Did you all see the poll where only 13% of voters think Sunak is the most in touch with voters (71% I think for Starmer). That is a disastrous number. I can’t remember a poll number lower than that.

I think Sky-gate has been just as damaging with a section of voters (people seriously struggling with the COL crisis) as the D-Day debacle was with another section (pensioners).

A bit odd you should single me out - my posts last night were after 7pm.
Let's see - since the start of this month, I have posted 114 times (not including this post) and you have posted 104 times. Not much in it.

one of these feckless work shy layabouts - are you self-projecting?

Did you all see the poll where only 13% of voters think Sunak is the most in touch with voters (71% I think for Starmer)

I have now. It was a snap poll of Sky debate viewers - comprising of 957 viewers who voted remain in 2016 (weighted to 909) and only 706 viewers who voted leave in 2016 (weighted to 727). Similar mismatch between men and women - with more men than women.

BitOutOfPractice · 14/06/2024 19:47

And there you go @Clavinova proving my point. Your tenacity and pernickityness is quite astounding! Brava! Even though you are, imho, mostly barking up the wrong tree! 😀

Clavinova · 14/06/2024 20:14

ItsFuckingBoringFeedingEveryoneUntilYouDie · 13/06/2024 22:35

@Clavinova
From an article about his pal Lord Ashcroft's biography.

I'm not sure Lord Ashcroft is Rishi Sunak's 'pal'.
Is he Angela Rayner's 'pal' as well? I bet she loves him!

All I can say is, the Independent (up thread 2020), The Times (2022) "He was one of the few day boys, returning home every evening, with his parents picking him up in the car as late as 9pm, while others boarded" and inews (2 days ago) all state Sunak was a day boy.

Perhaps he boarded some of the time or in the sixth form?

WindsurfingDreams · 14/06/2024 20:46

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Yalta · 14/06/2024 21:11

Alexandra2001 · 14/06/2024 07:00

@Yalta Boris's only vision was to become PM/make money... once there he didn't know what to to do.

Starmer faces a very hostile media and a UK with no capacity to borrow money and cannot raise taxes as few earn very much... he has to tread very carefully.

So Starmers "vision" seems to be to increase the countries growth, its the only strategy..... will it work? we don't know but its the only option for the UK.

If you are saying

So Starmers "vision" seems to be to increase the countries growth

Using the word “seems” indicates that even you can’t be certain of Starmers vision

Thisagainandagain · 14/06/2024 21:35

mathanxiety · 13/06/2024 20:59

And there is a concomitant idea, sometimes a little vague or woolly, and sometimes expressed as a half-formed thought, but deeply embedded all the same, that people who send their children to state schools belong to a culture that doesn't value education (because if they valued it they would be willing to pay for it or would work whatever hours it took at umpteen jobs to make that happen for their children).

The idea that all schools should be superb, that parents would have an equal choice, and the fact that poor quality schools hold Britain back, doesn't seem to penetrate.

This.

Strange view

newnamethanks · 14/06/2024 21:44

One of the first awards made by the new National Lottery was to Eton College. Its a charity you know. 1 million squids for a shiny new swimming pool funded by us proles paying 'the stupid tax' as I've heard it termed by beneficiaries. Lovely facilities.

MyQuaintDog · 14/06/2024 21:45

Poor people are most likely to buy lottery tickets. So it is a reverse Robin Hood.