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Smug milk.....who is it appealing to?

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GameOfJones · 10/06/2024 21:58

I saw this in my local Tesco. Cow's milk mixed with oat milk. I actually thought it was a vegan milk alternative as it was next to the Free From section.

I must be missing something, but who is buying this? Obviously if you're vegan or have a dairy intolerance you can't drink it, but if you're a dairy milk drinker what would be the appeal? I saw it was marketed as "30% less fat than semi skimmed milk" but it still has more fat than standard skimmed milk.

From the ingredients it's just semi skimmed milk with a bunch of random crap added to it and 1.5% oats. But I'm genuinely curious who their target audience are.

Smug milk.....who is it appealing to?
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reallytimetodeclutter · 11/06/2024 02:22

Probably for people like me (i.e. mugs) who like the taste of cows milk but feel a bit guilty about our dairy intake. So would buy this to feel like they were doing something to reduce their environmental impact and for fewer cows to suffer.

So people can buy into feeling a bit better but without giving up on the taste of milk. Like having a hybrid car I guess...

I haven't tried it but probably will now I've heard about it. And, yes, as mentioned above I do know I'm a mug.

itschemical · 11/06/2024 02:25

Leave the cows alone, just give me the oat milk!!!!!

RickyGervaislovesdogs · 11/06/2024 02:29

More sustainable?
That you want to move toward being vegan? Those are my guesses.

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kikisparks · 11/06/2024 07:39

Blueyellowroses · 10/06/2024 23:05

That’s just porridge milkshake then? I used to drink oatly the blue one that’s supposedly like semi skimmed milk. Used to have 4 coffees a day with it. I decided to cut it out as wasn’t feeling great and within 3 months I’d lost a whole stone and that was the only change I’d made ??! So I don’t think oat milks are very healthy

Oatly semi skimmed has 48cals per 100ml compared to 47 for cow’s milk so if you replaced like for like that has nothing to do with your weight loss.

ohtowinthelottery · 11/06/2024 07:54

As someone who makes porridge with semi skimmed milk for breakfast every day, I also thought WTF when I saw that advert. I can't see that being around for long.

GameOfJones · 11/06/2024 07:57

kikisparks · 10/06/2024 22:09

Do you think it was thought up by Apprentice candidates? A product with a terrible name and no obvious target market.

Haha it definitely seems like it! The name is absolutely dreadful.

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GameOfJones · 11/06/2024 07:59

Blueyellowroses · 10/06/2024 23:05

That’s just porridge milkshake then? I used to drink oatly the blue one that’s supposedly like semi skimmed milk. Used to have 4 coffees a day with it. I decided to cut it out as wasn’t feeling great and within 3 months I’d lost a whole stone and that was the only change I’d made ??! So I don’t think oat milks are very healthy

A lot of oat milk has palm oil (or another type of oil) in it to make it creamy. There are some brands that are just oats, water etc but they are obviously thin and watery. Most of the "barista" style milk alternatives for making milk etc are full of oil, so it could have been that?

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GameOfJones · 11/06/2024 08:00

rebbles1 · 10/06/2024 22:13

I thought this when I saw the advert too 😆 I can't eat oats, only thought it might be good for someone who is trying to reintroduce milk into diet at end of milk ladder. My nephew has oat milk mixed with cows milk as he is trying to tolerate milk more but it's quite niche I am surprised it exists!

That is a fair point and I could understand using it in those circumstances......but as you say that seems extremely niche 🤣

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mrstea301 · 11/06/2024 08:35

Could this maybe be for tea?

Still haven't found an oat milk that's decent in tea, many are fine in coffee but still have cows milk in tea!

Isthatascratchonmygrandmother · 11/06/2024 09:20

I wondered this, too. Must have been stood for just over a minute staring at it and wondering who the target market is.

WhoUsesTypeWritersNEway · 11/06/2024 09:28

I thought it looked like a weird product that someone on The Apprentice had dreamed up for a challenge.

I looked at their IG and I think a mix is meant to be better for the environment. Or something? Anyway, definitely doesn’t appeal to me!

WhitegreeNcandle · 11/06/2024 09:32

Word on the agricultural street is one of the big names built a massive oat milk factory. But sales have dropped massively so they had to come up with this awful thing!

MorvernBlack · 11/06/2024 09:38

They are collecting the milk from a million porridge bowls.

I don't like cow's milk, so no appeal here, don't like oat milk either 😆. I've no idea who this would appeal to. If you are blending milks for the perfect foam, then just buy a barista version of a single milk.
I can only think it is trying to con people into thinking it's healthier or more eco.

ClonedSquare · 11/06/2024 10:34

I guess it's for people who want to reduce their dairy but don't need/want to stop completely? I'm mildly lactose intolerant and did try going dairy free for a while, but couldn't stand dairy free cheese. A reduced dairy cheese could suit me, so maybe other people feel the same about milk.

It's definitely a weird product with a very niche market though. It seems I am their target market and it just wouldn't occur to me that their product exists. I definitely wouldn't pay a premium for it, when I can just eat less "real" cheese for a similar effect.

inamarina · 11/06/2024 12:05

Dilbertian · 10/06/2024 23:14

Interesting idea. IMO oat milk has the creamiest, milkiest mouthfeel of any of the non-dairy milks. Skimmed milk is thin and grey, and IMO tastes like dishwater. I can imagine that this blend might give you the calcium and the low fat of skimmed, with the richer mouthfeel of ss or ff milk.

That’s what I was thinking too. Skimmed milk is pretty awful imo, personally I don’t even like semi skimmed.
Oat milk has a creamy consistency, yet less fat than cow’s milk. Cow’s milk contains calcium.
Maybe that’s the reason to mix the two?
As for the name if the product - it definitely gets people talking!

IBegYourBiggestPardon · 11/06/2024 12:20

Theunamedcat · 10/06/2024 22:07

I'm intolerant to oats (even gluten free ones) so I can't tell you what it would taste like but I'm guessing porridge? Who wants to drink that? Is it more filling than regular milk?

So many questions

I use oat milk in tea and coffee. It definitely doesn’t taste of porridge. I couldn’t drink it if it did. However I haven’t tried it by itself.

BurbageBrook · 11/06/2024 12:25

Too much dairy gives me stomach ache but I do like the taste of milk, so I would actually buy this to have in coffee. However, I'm surprised there is a big enough market for it!

PickAChew · 11/06/2024 12:34

ClonedSquare · 11/06/2024 10:34

I guess it's for people who want to reduce their dairy but don't need/want to stop completely? I'm mildly lactose intolerant and did try going dairy free for a while, but couldn't stand dairy free cheese. A reduced dairy cheese could suit me, so maybe other people feel the same about milk.

It's definitely a weird product with a very niche market though. It seems I am their target market and it just wouldn't occur to me that their product exists. I definitely wouldn't pay a premium for it, when I can just eat less "real" cheese for a similar effect.

If you're lactose intolerant then you could try lactose free milk rather than a substitute. the lactofree brand has just been treated with lactase enzyme, which is what we are lacking.

SonyaBoot · 11/06/2024 12:34

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DogInATent · 11/06/2024 12:49

Precipice · 10/06/2024 22:02

People who like the taste of oat milk but want the calcium of cow milk?

From the advertising hook about the fat, maybe it has a consistency like semi-skimmed and is less 'thin' than the skimmed?

Various 'what? why?' products out there on shelves.

Try finding a dairy replacement that isn't fortified with calcium to the same level as moo juice..

I tried finding a low calcium dairy alternative a few years ago (calcium interferes with uptake of a medication I'm on) and gave up because they're all exactly the same in terms of minimum calcium content.

Persianpuss · 11/06/2024 13:17

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Skimmed milk is basically fat free. It has between 0.1 and 0.3% fat.

ErrolTheDragon · 11/06/2024 13:22

I think they've mangled the name, it should be Mugs milk.

HysteriaOfTheWanderingWomb · 11/06/2024 13:42

Even full fat milk is less than 4% fat - if everything in your diet was 4% fat or less, you would be on a very lean diet, so I find the whole skimmed milk etc a bit pointless.
Not to mention that a lot of the nutrition content is fat soluble, so as soon as you skim/semi skim the milk you lose a lot of it's valuable nutrients also.
There are other types of dietary fats that you could lose that would make a healthier difference.

Appreciate some people just prefer the taste of skimmed / semi skimmed. I'm only talking about my opinion on the health benefits.

So for me it's either drink milk that's not been messed about or don't bother at all.

ErrolTheDragon · 11/06/2024 13:54

Even full fat milk is less than 4% fat - if everything in your diet was 4% fat or less, you would be on a very lean diet, so I find the whole skimmed milk etc a bit pointless.

Yes but it's a lot more than 4% of the solid weight... everything in our diet isn't mostly water. However, roughly equal amounts of fat, protein and a tad more carbohydrates is pretty balanced I guess.

HysteriaOfTheWanderingWomb · 11/06/2024 14:10

@ErrolTheDragon interesting way to look at it.
You've got me thinking now.
For comparison, are there any other foods you would state percentages as a % of solids weight rather than total weight .. do we state the fat content of soup this way for instance? So we even do this for pies and curries...
And water will also fill you up, so if you consume liquid food it will displace consumption of other foods with less water content, so the water content shouldn't be dismissed as irrelevant.

And is weight the best measurement, what about volume given the relative of mass of components will vary?

Anyway, as you were.