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Things you would never believe would become the norm

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LakeTiticaca · 10/06/2024 08:22

The flip side of the other thread about the horrors that were acceptable 20/30/40 years ago.
Things that back then we would never believe possible . I'll start
Children carrying knives.
Children murdering each other
Children attacking parents and teachers.
Morbid obesity
The lax attitude towards drugs
The notion that you are not responsible for your own actions. It's always someone else's fault.
Smart phones and social media
The damage that smartphones and social media cause

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Blueberrymuffin80 · 11/06/2024 12:17

LifeofBrienne · 10/06/2024 09:39

Possibly the OP about how awful people are nowadays with their refusal to take responsibility for themselves and their terrible knife-wielding children? Does seem to me like an invitation to slag off younger generations and modern ways.

'Modern ways'

Dear lord 🤦🏻‍♀️

No hope.

Blueberrymuffin80 · 11/06/2024 12:24

StarlightLady · 11/06/2024 12:02

Enoch Powell and Mary Whitehouse caused not solved many problems. Powell was a racist and Whitehouse was anti women. In spite of being a woman herself.

Do you mean the Rivers of blood speech?
Please do explain about your racist claim?

MuseKira · 11/06/2024 12:37

StarlightLady · 11/06/2024 12:02

Enoch Powell and Mary Whitehouse caused not solved many problems. Powell was a racist and Whitehouse was anti women. In spite of being a woman herself.

Like I say, there are people who havn't actually read Enoch Powell's full speech!

SoreAndTired1 · 11/06/2024 12:57

When it was the big thing to get a 17 inch computer monitor or a 19 inch, it is now the thing to use the net or play games on a teeny tiny mobile phone screen. After all the years of bigger and bigger and bigger CRT and flatscreen monitors.

therealcookiemonster · 11/06/2024 13:16

having an actual measles outbreak in the uk because of low vaccine uptake

Aintnosupermum · 11/06/2024 14:28

@StarlightLady

Enoch Powell didn’t articulate himself sufficiently and there were racist comments within the speech. I’ve read the full speech and integration of immigrants is extremely hard. I am an immigrant to the U.S. and I’m still paying the price. He wasn’t wrong to speak out because he heard and saw the problems, however I think he should have been much clearer that he was concerned, rightly so, about the policies in place.

The immigration policies employed by the UK are absolutely awful and have been for decades. Windrush shouldn’t have happened in the first place and now it’s been uncovered it should have been made right quickly. These are good people who have made the UK home for decades.

Where I have a huge problem with Enoch Powell was his belief that it was wrong that an immigrant could be directing an indigenous person. That’s what meritocracy is and something the UK doesn’t do well. Rishi Sunak is our prime minister and I don’t think it’s a bad thing at all. If he had a European name no one would bat an eyelid. Boris Johnson doesn’t exactly have a British name either but because he is blond and blue eyed no one questions his heritage in the same way they question Rishi Sunaks.

MuseKira · 11/06/2024 14:33

Aintnosupermum · 11/06/2024 14:28

@StarlightLady

Enoch Powell didn’t articulate himself sufficiently and there were racist comments within the speech. I’ve read the full speech and integration of immigrants is extremely hard. I am an immigrant to the U.S. and I’m still paying the price. He wasn’t wrong to speak out because he heard and saw the problems, however I think he should have been much clearer that he was concerned, rightly so, about the policies in place.

The immigration policies employed by the UK are absolutely awful and have been for decades. Windrush shouldn’t have happened in the first place and now it’s been uncovered it should have been made right quickly. These are good people who have made the UK home for decades.

Where I have a huge problem with Enoch Powell was his belief that it was wrong that an immigrant could be directing an indigenous person. That’s what meritocracy is and something the UK doesn’t do well. Rishi Sunak is our prime minister and I don’t think it’s a bad thing at all. If he had a European name no one would bat an eyelid. Boris Johnson doesn’t exactly have a British name either but because he is blond and blue eyed no one questions his heritage in the same way they question Rishi Sunaks.

I don't think Sunak is being criticised and failing in the polls because of his ethnicity. I think it's because of his incompetence!

Aintnosupermum · 11/06/2024 14:45

There has been comments made about his ethnicity which are unacceptable. Im not a fan of his wife because of her use of non dom status while her husband was chancellor of the exchequer, but I think he was put in an impossible position and was never going to be successful.

I also question if you think people judge his performance fairly or do you think he would be perceived differently if his name was Richard Sherman?

MuseKira · 11/06/2024 15:07

Aintnosupermum · 11/06/2024 14:45

There has been comments made about his ethnicity which are unacceptable. Im not a fan of his wife because of her use of non dom status while her husband was chancellor of the exchequer, but I think he was put in an impossible position and was never going to be successful.

I also question if you think people judge his performance fairly or do you think he would be perceived differently if his name was Richard Sherman?

For a start he put himself in the PM position, it wasn't forced upon him. It was something he wanted.

As for whether he'd had a "white name", my thoughts and feelings for someone so incompetent as to exclude 3 million people (10% of the workforce) from Covid support schemes, and then lie about it, would be exactly the same.

StarlightLady · 11/06/2024 16:14

MuseKira · 11/06/2024 15:07

For a start he put himself in the PM position, it wasn't forced upon him. It was something he wanted.

As for whether he'd had a "white name", my thoughts and feelings for someone so incompetent as to exclude 3 million people (10% of the workforce) from Covid support schemes, and then lie about it, would be exactly the same.

Nobody is forced to be PM!

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