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Things that you can’t quite believe were the norm

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ItsNotAShopItsAStore · 09/06/2024 19:27

What’s one of those things you think in 10/20/30 years people will go “WTF why was that acceptable?”

For me - the Jeremy Kyle show. I’m so pleased it’s off air - awful poverty porn hosted by a nasty little bully and enabled by god-complex shit stirring producers. Also who wants to watch so much shouting and arguing at 9.25am!

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Intriguedbythis · 10/06/2024 09:43

Lifeomars · 10/06/2024 09:39

I used to do something similar, go out in the morning with my swimming things in a duffle bag (remember them?) some spending money from my mum, call for my friend, go to the local outdoor pool, have a long swim, mess about at the vending machines, walk back with my friend to her house, then walk back to mine. Out for about 5 hours, no adults, we were about 12 I think. No phones of course and nobody able to check if we had arrived at our various destinations, we were off radar.

Yes me too! We used to go age 11 to an Olympic size pool ALONE with NO lifeguard or adults present ( was a local pool that families had membership to, a key 🔑 was in a coded box) and our mums happily let us go alone ( late 90s).

my friend and I used to have underwater swimming competitions trying to do as many widths as possible underwater. Imagine if one of us blacked out?! We never would have been strong enough to pull the other out . 🙀

Scorchio84 · 10/06/2024 09:44

Cattenberg · 09/06/2024 21:03

Looking back: My dad (who grew up in a rural area) walking a mile on his own to and from the school bus stop every day from the age of four. I think his mum walked the route with him the first few times, then he was on his own!

Looking forward: a lot of reality TV, including Britain’s Got Talent and The X Factor. These set up some vulnerable, unsuspecting people for ridicule on national TV - it’s really quite horrible. The programmes are also contrived and allegedly edited in ways that mislead the viewer.

Oh my god at 4???? my auntie (84) talks about "walking & walking....to school holy shit! Imagine?

WittiestUsernameEver · 10/06/2024 09:44

Motcouk · 10/06/2024 09:42

'Naked Attraction' among the lowest levels of bad taste on a mainstream TV channel. It's still here too!

Page three, as a hetero man I can report that it was for me as titillating and sexually arousing and a cold bath.

Well for every one man that wasn't aroused, there were 100+ men having a wank over a naked 16 year old every day

Intriguedbythis · 10/06/2024 09:45

SinnerBoy · 10/06/2024 09:42

Gonnagetgoingreturnsagain · Today 09:27

9 year olds looking after a 7 year old, I’m sure DM only did this rarely if we were both off school sick...

I got knocked down by the Wall's Sausage van, when I was two and a half. We were out in the close and my 5 year old eldest sister was watching us, God knows why our mam thought that was OK.

She belted her all over. I got put on a cushion on my mam's lap and a neighbour drove us to hospital. I have scars on either side of my head, you can still see them through my hair, as I found out when my daughter was playing with it.

Did I read that correctly.? She belted your 5 year old sister for not watching you 😭 bless her . She must have been absolutely terrified first to witness it and then to be beaten. 😢
what year was this??

the5percentclub · 10/06/2024 09:46

Ilovebees · 09/06/2024 19:50

I find it disgusting that in early 2000’s and earlier than that girls in school had to have naked showers after PE lesson . No privacy whatsoever , nice way to knock someone’s confidence down , NOT, forcing a girl to do something she would never willingly do if given a choice ! Sounds like a prison . And most likely a teacher watching the girls have the shower too ! Sounds very pervy in my eyes !

No girls I knew in the 70s-90s or more recently have ever showered after school PE (there were communal showers, but no one used them). It used to astonish me though that the boys at school had communal baths after rugby!

Atethehalloweenchocs · 10/06/2024 09:46

titchy · 09/06/2024 19:40

Smoking in offices - somehow worse than on public transport.

Acceptable racism in sitcoms - Alf Garnett, Rising damp.

Student grants and no uni fees.

The acceptance of inappropriate behaviour from male teachers and boys.

Totally @titchy . As a new grad I was offered a very well paid job at a national newspaper - would have put me way far ahead of my peers in terms of earnings - but it was a massive open office and it had a fog of tobacco smoke from about 5ft up to the ceiling. I turned it down. I would have liked it, but could not cope with being in that much smoke.

The director of HR also had a bar in his office. You would regularly see people with a glass of wine on their desk instead of a cup of tea. I was assigned a mentor who was a very senior manager. The first time I met him he announced he had cleared his desk so he did not have to go back to work and put his credit card behind the bar. I got so drunk that an old man on the bus on the way home gave me a stern lecture on the dangers of drink.

Eastcoastie · 10/06/2024 09:47

TheSnowyOwl · 09/06/2024 19:45

The old ways really were the best, weren’t they. Let’s ignore that infant mortality was 32 in 1000 in the 1950s compared to 4 in 1000 in 2021. After all, who cares that the old ways meant many infants died unnecessarily. Let’s just get them out of their nappies asap! We will focus on that!

Edited

I think the key word was 'sometimes'

kikisparks · 10/06/2024 09:48

Male circumcision for non medical reasons is another one I think people are realising is immoral.

WittiestUsernameEver · 10/06/2024 09:48

Scorchio84 · 10/06/2024 09:44

Oh my god at 4???? my auntie (84) talks about "walking & walking....to school holy shit! Imagine?

Kids are more capable than we think.

upthespoutagain · 10/06/2024 09:49

the5percentclub · 10/06/2024 09:46

No girls I knew in the 70s-90s or more recently have ever showered after school PE (there were communal showers, but no one used them). It used to astonish me though that the boys at school had communal baths after rugby!

Are you refusing to accept that this DID happen? I was at secondary school from 80-84 and we showered communally twice a week. Towels were taken away if you didn't get in.

BeverForget · 10/06/2024 09:51

I remember our local cinema having a smoking section...
Upstairs on the bus...
Being able to buy cigarettes at 13 years old.

Drink driving, as in adults having four or five drinks and then getting in the car.

Page 3! 16 year old girls topless in daily papers!

Child minders (!) that were 12 years old...

Sweden99 · 10/06/2024 09:52

I do not think we have progressed since page 3. I think the internet means men have a discreet way of doing it and we get to pretend to have advanced. (this is a man writing).
I notice that things that seemed poisonous to me at the time tend not to last the test of time (Russel Brand, Jeremy Kyle and some of the Mare from Mars Women from Venus).

Runsyd · 10/06/2024 09:53

TerfTalking · 10/06/2024 09:21

Most of the above are completely unacceptable now, thank god, the OP asks what is “acceptable” now that won’t be in 10+ years.

my biggest hope is the gender ideology and the infringement on children’s and women’s rights has been proved to be the biggest medical scandal and biggest abuse of women’s rights in all history and heads have rolled.

that when people ask what a women is, every single person including those currently indoctrinated will be able to answer and everyone will accept that there’s no such thing as trans, gender is regressive and a woman is an adult human female. No ambiguity, zero tolerance.

I’m fucked off with it all.

You and me both.

WittiestUsernameEver · 10/06/2024 09:55

50DiddlySquats · 10/06/2024 09:30

I think one day we’ll look back on baby-led weaning and laugh. All of us just watching our babies gag on solid foods for months, even though our parents all mashed up our food and we turned out fine. And I say that as someone who did BLW with both kids!

I did BLW my child never gagged on food. What do you think billions of babies have been fed in before blenders were invented if not just normal food?

CuteOrangeElephant · 10/06/2024 09:56

Scorchio84 · 10/06/2024 09:44

Oh my god at 4???? my auntie (84) talks about "walking & walking....to school holy shit! Imagine?

My mother once sent me to the supermarket when I had just turned 4.
She rang ahead with her order, gave me the money in a little pouch and off I went on my little trike.

This was the 90s, she still sees nothing wrong with it as in her words 'I had no choice'.

Willmafrockfit · 10/06/2024 09:56

upthespoutagain · 10/06/2024 09:49

Are you refusing to accept that this DID happen? I was at secondary school from 80-84 and we showered communally twice a week. Towels were taken away if you didn't get in.

i was at senior school 77 - 82
i never forget the large girl kicking my towel across the floor,
so cruel

JudgeJ · 10/06/2024 09:57

TheSnowyOwl · 09/06/2024 19:45

The old ways really were the best, weren’t they. Let’s ignore that infant mortality was 32 in 1000 in the 1950s compared to 4 in 1000 in 2021. After all, who cares that the old ways meant many infants died unnecessarily. Let’s just get them out of their nappies asap! We will focus on that!

Edited

And they're off! More Daryl Huff.
When today's mothers are slavishly adhering to the 'advice' from the numerous organisations remember that the 'advice' used to be to put babies down on their fronts. Just because the 'experts' say something doesn't make it right but using common sense seems to be out of fashion.

marmiteoneverything · 10/06/2024 09:57

WittiestUsernameEver · 10/06/2024 09:21

I remember our shows - just a row of shower heads - the girls point blank refused to shower in front of other girls... and then they put in dividers, but no doors and they still refused, because of other students walking past and anyway in them because other girls would do shit like chuck your clothes in the showers etc.
So there were lots of deodorant and probably a disgusting stink LOL

I'm hoping now they have enclosed and lockable showers??

They just don’t shower at all now, to my knowledge!

A bit gross from a hygiene point of view (providing you’ve been doing actual exercise) but better for safeguarding.

GamineQueen · 10/06/2024 09:59

Smoking in school staffrooms.

It seems mad now that teachers were allowed to smoke on school premises - inside the buildings. At the time it was standard practice and no one thought a thing of it.

Alittlefrustrated · 10/06/2024 09:59

AInightingale · 10/06/2024 09:03

When I was younger, you could just walk into a pet shop and buy a puppy or kitten. Poor things were in cages.

There was a long skinny monkey in a tiny cage for years - we went in often to see it (thought nothing wrong with this at the time) 😢

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scalt · 10/06/2024 09:59

Needanewname42 · 10/06/2024 08:53

Agreed.
I did it once, a few years ago my 3 yo had an accident that needed A&E. I stuffed my bare feet into trainers then had them on all day in the hot hospital. They were stinking after it.
I can't imagine how stinky they'd be if people did its constantly.

Maybe that's why people bought oder eaters. Envy

My feet don’t sweat a lot, so I like going sockless in trainers. In the supermarket, you’d see people doing it all the time. Many people in my year went sockless for PE as teenagers. At primary, we were made to put shoes on our bare feet to walk to the assembly hall for PE, before doing PE barefoot (and in vest and pants).

50DiddlySquats · 10/06/2024 10:02

WittiestUsernameEver · 10/06/2024 09:55

I did BLW my child never gagged on food. What do you think billions of babies have been fed in before blenders were invented if not just normal food?

Edited

Your child never once gagged in the process of learning to eat? That’s very impressive.

My mum didn’t have a blender either but she managed to mash food with a fork pretty well…

uni0 · 10/06/2024 10:03

Needanewname42 · 10/06/2024 09:01

I don't believe the stories about swimming naked anywhere.
Or half the stories about girls in showers, certainly not in the 80s and 90s.

It certainly happened in my school. And if we kept our pants on or didn't get wet enough we had to go through again, it was a long line of maybe 8 showers and 8 girls had towels taken off them and given back when she thought we were properly showered

Scorchio84 · 10/06/2024 10:04

WittiestUsernameEver · 10/06/2024 09:48

Kids are more capable than we think.

Ah no, where I grew up there was one path from your door to max 2 minutes to the lane that brought you to school (same school I teach in now) one small residential road to cross, my auntie grew up in Meath, so just a bit outside of Dublin but still rurual back then & I couldn't cope with that, especially because she was responsible for my other auntie & my mammy

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