Help - What Social Class am I?

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This may seem strange but I am keen to know what social class I fit into. I switched careers recently and now work in publishing. I hear so much chat about "middle class writer" "working class writer" "upper class" and bourgeoisie! I never came across so much emphasis on social class before and I never gave a huge amount of weight or thought to where I might sit but I'm super curious. Here are some of my bio points:

I grew up on a farm (in a picturesque area).
My mum worked in a low level management role in a large company.
Went to a small village primary school.
Church associated secondary school (fee paying but the fees were small in comparison to larger public schools- students were from most walks of life)
University College London Degree
Masters degree from a lesser prestigious uni.
I live in London in a dual income home (renter, 32 years old)
Hobbies - literature, drama, horses, architecture, yoga, art house film.

Eh?! So will my grandkids be working class even if I have a 3 figure salary but clean my own bathrooms?

My grandmother used to clean other people's bathrooms 😂

Ah just reread & saw that you said middle. I'm not sure it is so easy nowadays though.
I'd describe myself as solidly working class due to upbringing, but my lifestyle would suggest otherwise.

You had a private education - you're very middle class. Towards the upper end in fact, imo as only something like 5% of the population has a paid-for education.

My grandmothers had staff. They didn’t clean, cook or even drive their own cars.

I don’t see what relevance that has to my “tier” in this day and age. I do all those things.

And this thread certainly demonstrates that.

A 3 figure salary? From £100 - £999 per annum?

And I don't think my grandmother (I called her "nan" which is probably a better indicator) had a bathroom aside from the outdoor loo!

You sound very middle class.

I'm guessing neither your UCL degree nor your masters was in sociology??

Clearly not

You don't say what your dad does?

Unless he's the farmer?

If he's a farmer and owns the farm and your mums middle management then probably lower middle

But I know some REALLY poor farmers

That comment means that if your grandmother had servants you probably come from upper end of middle class or have backgroung in upper class but lost title.

@Summerflames
🙈😂 yeah fat fingers & a glass of wine. Meant 6 😳

@MissAtomicBomb1 ah, got you! 🤣 I was thinking you wouldn't be able to afford loo cleaner, never mind a loo on that salary 😆😆

It's not always obvious ! I have always considered myself middle class but middle class people also seem surprised that I was the first in my family to go to uni, all one side of the family are manual workers and many live in social housing and consider themselves working class. I have a cleaner but have also worked as a cleaner.

Lacking in any kind of class if you have to brag on the internet about your education, upbringing and career.

Does anyone outside of mumsnet genuinely care about being whether they are one of the braying middle classes?

I remember an argument between schoolfriends of mine discussing class.

One had 2 teachers for parents and was saying that made her middle class.

Other friends dad worked as tradesman and she said that she knew he earned more than teachers did. The first friend said, that may be so but you're still working class. 😯

@LondonFox yes but that's where the waters get muddy isn't it.
My granny was born into a very wealthy family but married 'down'.
My dad is as working class as they come and I grew up in a relatively poor working class household. However, now due to education/career/moving area, I would be considered middle class and so would my children. Social mobility I guess. I still feel working class though & struggle to feel at home amongst some of the circles I mix in (the school mums for starters 🫤)

Neither of these are true! Are you saying that once a working class person goes to university they magically become middle class?

I feel similar - grew up in a very working class family - both parents left school at 15 - dad was a manual worker and mum was a SAHM. But I'm now a lawyer in a v senior role on a good 6 figure salary but I feel working class still and think people must view me that way. Not that it should matter at all and I'm probably more conscious of it than they are.

Class system in the UK is..

Underclass

Working class

Lower middle class

Middle middle class

Upper middle class

Upper class

I know someone who is very upper class but doesn't have a title . . .

I think a lot of people incorrectly class themselves as working class because it's trendier.

That fee paying school wasn’t up to much if you can’t work out your middle class from that set of facts.