This isn't an average 8 year olds drawing is it??

[delilabell]

I'm bad at art always have been. But we are worried about dds development in several ways including fine motor skills.
Shes proudly just created this and I'm so chuffed for her but it's not average is it?

Thanks everyone.
I'm a bit annoyed by the two posters saying she spends too much time on electronics?? And that she can't be bothered to learn tomes tables?
She tries so so hard all the time which she finds even more frustrating when it doesn't sink in.
For the people who have been supportive thank you so much.
I'm going to get intouch with my gp again (we have to email) and be more forceful about wanting to be referred. I also need to be stronger with school. Last night I looked at OT's but they're £300/400 and I genuinely can't afford that , and feel dreadful that I can't.
I also wanted to say that I do not draw attention to these to my dc. We play a lot of games together (role-playing a LOT) we play card games, we draw pictures together, and I always am positive about her and proud of anything she does. We currently have a clay sculpture who's head has fallen off in pride of place om our fireplace. She is a joy, she is hilarious and I never ever dim her sparkle

I haven't read the whole thread but these books really helped us - sometimes it doesn't come naturally - we started with this one and progressed.
Step-by-step Drawing Book: 1 : Fiona Watt, Candice Whatmore: Amazon.co.uk: Books

We also noticed that indoor climbing helped grip and stamina - so bought these and they have helped. My teenager also uses them for prep for exams to help his writing stamina.

CORTNEY Hand Grip Strengthener（3 Pack）, Forearm Exerciser Hand Strengthener Finger Extensor Bands for Muscle Training Sports, Stress Relief, Increase Strength, Rock Climbing and Injury Recovery : Amazon.co.uk: Sports & Outdoors

beautiful

I agree that the drawing looks more 3-4 year old (ex early years teacher here and this is very much the level I used to see), BUT could it just be that she isn't interested in drawing/doesn't have an arty eye?

Her writing looks spot on so it's obviously not an issue with fine motor skills. I'm not sure what the problem is really - some people are just bad at drawing (myself included).

I wouldn't worry, my daughter is the same. Turns out she reads music far better than she reads words or uses a pen. Let her be, we all have our strengths, she'll find hers.

not really

Children develop skills at different rates

I was never good at drawing
I would still draw like that as an adult

I'm successful, bright and happy

We seem to want pathology for everything these days

Her writing is good. Nice, neat. Readable.

its just normal🤐

Looks like my 4 year olds drawings, I didn't realise drawing was developmental though I just thought it was practice

Haven't read the whole thread but this could have been my DS at 8, except his handwriting was terrible. He was diagnosed with dyspraxia at 7. We did lots of 'crossing the midline' activities with him, he had 1:1 swimming lessons and learnt a musical instrument, all of which I think helped him a great deal. I was really worried about his development but he just gradually made progress and learnt strategies to overcome the things he found hard. Did really well at GCSE and A Level and just about to graduate (expected to get a high 2:1 or a 1st). He has extra time and a laptop in all exams but other than that, the dyspraxia doesnt impact much on him now at all.

Her writing is good. Art, is a skill not everyone has.

It's not great but why is this a problem ?
I'm not sure I could produce much better and I'm 50 ,but I have no.nterest in drawing .

This is my just turned 8-year-old's writing. I would expect joined up writing at this stage. But honestly, children develop at very different rates. Best thing to do is chat to the class teacher.

I have not read others posts so apologies if its been mentioned.
she could have disgraphia. Its on the dyselxic spectrum but is defined as having some abilities are in the top percentile and others at the bottom.
generally fine motor and organisational skills are poor. Verbal reasoning skills and reading are very good.

In short if you met them they would come across as very engaging and intelligent. If you saw their written work you’d worry where life would take them!

you can have her assessed now but it would have to be private and would be expensive, quite probably £800-1000 these days.

Sorry to jump on...

No its not average drawing for her age...

Take no offence.

I am a mum of an 11year old DS and his drawing are also like this.

Let me explain.... sorry this may be long...

We are in Scotland for context.

When my son was in nursery I brought up concerns about his memory and concentration he was 3 sounds silly to question this right at that age but bare with me.

They said they would keep an eye him he turns 4 getting ready for primary 1 so gets al little more intense. They start to notice more of what I was speaking about.

Told me they think he may be dyslexic cool no problem I had an incline anyway. Sent reports to his primary school ect of things they put in place...

Starts primary 1.

School complain constantly about his attention span his lack of remembering anything...

I explained that his records should state the issues he had in nursery for starting they were they they just didn't look....

The struggle over the years. Remembering simple things like..

Go wash your face
Go get your school bag and jacket.

He'd go away and sometimes you'd be lucky if he remembered to brush his teeth because by the time he gets there he's forgotten everything.

End of P6 he gets diagnosed with dyslexia and a slow working memory. He can't remember si ple tasks his brain won't process them.

I have to give him 1 task let him complete it...give him another task let him complete it.

He can't read well at all..

If there's a story and he's reading something like...

The boy went to the shops together with his friend. Together they had 4pound and bought blah blah blah.

Now being dyslexic he needs alot of help so we go over it...
We do together, great its coming up again in 3 words time.... and boom he doesn't know the word it used to frustrate me so much before his diagnosis of slow working memory b9w I understand it more...

His maths is good 👍
Reading writing art ect he can't do properly with extreme help.

I would push for tests your daughter sounds so much like my son.

Read up on dyslexia and a slow working memory.

And let he know she can still achieve anything..

Albert Einstein had dyslexia and look what he achieved. The skies your limit little one and soar you will xxx

My drawings are like that now. My handwriting is worse. But my reading and spelling were great as a child.

I have diagnoses for dysgraphia, ADHD, and autism - all diagnosed when I was studying for my masters.

I got an A in my Art GCSE, I have a degree, a masters, and a PhD.

For those saying joined up writing is expected by the end of year 3, please remember that's not true for all countries in the UK. It's not true in Wales where the term Y3 would still be relevant. (And thank goodness in this day and age. The misery of trying to write the "correct" way probably made my handwriting issues worse and must be so miserable for children with hypermobile fingers!)

I like her pictures @delilabell , they have a Quentin Blake-like quality to them (thinking of The Clown especially). No idea about being at the right level for her age but she certainly has her own style

The other thing is whether or not it is expected, what does it honestly prove? I mean if you want to be a calligrapher then yay. But otherwise … so what ? It’s joined. Big whooppee! It says nothing of intelligence ; in fact intelligent types tend to have “ doctor’s handwriting,”

Boys tend to read and write later than girls I think, but not all are in the average group. We learned tables by chanting them (I'm 78) and they are still useful for me. Just whole class chanting once 2 is 2, two tows are 4, three twos are 6, four twos are 8 etc up to the 13 and 16 times tables. If school doesn't object you could try this on the 2s and 3s?

The chanting of tables really works. I just have them on my tongue automatically. Seven eights are 56. Six twelves are 72 etc.Yes I know schools no longer do this. I taught basic skills to adults. They didn't do those either, but it works.