Qualifications needed to be a teacher?

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I understand none are needed now.
This is brilliant.

We're so short staffed we'd practically take a pulse and thick skin at the minute

Nerves of steel perhaps? Teacher of 30 years here

I'm a qualified teacher of 20 years.
What a bloody waste of my life!!!

my friend recently had to have several arduous interviews to get on a scitt scheme, She's got a Bachelor of Education.
I know cover supervisors and TA's don't needs degrees, but teachers do, surely?

Yes they do need a degree.

Nope!

Teacher apprenticeship and unqualified teachers don't. Only LA schools have to have qualified teachers and there's hardly any of them left now so...

I’m sure my daughter with her almost £60k student debt whilst she is gaining her qualifications and working long hours on placements will agree…

@RoseBucket I'm 43 and still paying mine off. Pointless tbh now...

Yes you can be an unqualified teacher. There's always been unqualified teachers working in schools. It's not a new thing. Ironically there used to be a lot more of them in private schools than state. Not sure that's the case now though. However, the percentage of unqualified is still very low and a lot of them do PPA or cover supervisor work.

I don’t understand how you can be a teacher without qualifications. At that point the children may as well be teaching themselves?

It’s crazy, she’ll be paying it off for years also.

TAs who were previously dinner ladies, are being approached to being teachers.
I worked with two ladies who hadn't got GCSEs in English or Maths
They just had to sit basic ( sub GCSE) tests and they'd be good to go re teaching qualifications.

Bonkers.

Teacher apprenticeships are working towards the degree. That's the whole point of them.

@OneLemonOrca Indeed. In the meantime I can't find a job... way too overqualified.

Depends on the person though doesn't it. You could get someone who is an fascinated with history for example who has worked in museums, archeological sites, done historical reenactments etc who might be far better and far more immersed in the subject than someone who has a degree in history.

Or someone who is a native French speaker might be a far better MFL teacher than an English speaker with a French degree. Qualifications aren't everything.

A degree doesn't mean someone is going to be an amazing teacher. You can be a maths teacher with a strong maths A level but have a degree in a completely different subject. Some other subjects are the same so degrees don't mean everything is great.

I worked as an unqualified teacher whilst doing my degree. My school couldn't recruit anyone else into the position and I had been working in the department as support staff with the goal of possibly going into teaching after my degree. It was hard, really hard studying and teaching at the same time we had several long term supply in the department too which were very questionable with very poor classroom management who struggled and our staff turnover was huge. Support within the department was fantastic but otherwise treated like a normal member of teaching staff despite no actual teaching training. Ironically after the 4 years I'd had quite enough of SLT taking advantage, being sworn at, sexually harassed that I left and didn't go through with getting qualified. I miss the school environment and my colleagues but I work fully flexi WFH with all the benefits that brings and no Sunday night fear.

What was the point in me doing six years of intense training? Answer: None.

Can you link the original advert? It is probably not a school you'd want to work in anyway and they are desperate. It's probably not as simple as it looks.

Same. Still got £15K student loan to pay off. I shudder to think what student loans will be like in the future. We’re seriously considering emigrating. We could get better pay, accommodation and pay less tax while renting our house out to pay off the mortgage. I would be have to juggle so many highly complex social, emotional and educational needs either. The only down side is leaving aging parents without support when the NHS is failing.

@Genevieva We're still renting so you've done better than we have ❤️

Poor you. That’s tough. We were really lucky. Bought a semi-derelict cottage a long time ago and gradually did it up ourselves. I do love it. Beautiful area. But the schools are massively underfunded. There seems to be a funding bias towards urban areas, so rural poverty is largely ignored, even though our deprivation stats are among the worst in Europe.

How was it 6 years? 3 year degree plus one doing PGCE?

@TitusMoan Four years uni, one pgce, one nqt

Possibly however there is a much more then passion for the subject, learning the curriculum, being able to deliver, lesson planning, marking, pleasing parents, SLT, Ofsted targeted teaching, different teaching styles for different learning abilities, adapting to SEN to guide through exams. Classroom and behaviour management.

I’m not a teacher so I’m sure there is much more I have missed off.