Auriol Grey conviction overturned

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The original decision split opinion and I have no doubt today’s one will do the same.
I saw the report in The Independent online.
Aplogies if this duplicates another post. I looked and couldn’t see one

You'd already be cycling that way. It would take time to realise what was happening. You might panic and make no decision. Stopping would require a decision, and then you'd have to move the bike around and quickly cycle in the opposite direction. All before the person displaying the aggressive, disturbing behaviour catches up to you. You are unlikely to know why they are flinging an arm about. You may not understand what is being shouted.

Clearly you have never used a stick. One soon gets used to it. Anyway, Grey doesn't use a stick..she can steam along quite well without one.

Clearly apologists for Grey's callous, aggressive behaviour will hear no wrong.
She's Disabled...therefore can be guilty of no crime, even though she left her victim dying in the road while coldly going shopping and then home.

This is inexcusable. Such cold callousness.

It's said Grey is ''childlike'', but there are children{Yes, even ones with autism} who show more empathy and concern over a crushed snail than self absorbed Grey has shown for a human being .

The poster I quoted said that they would deliberately cycle towards someone who was behaving aggressively, to try to get past them, because turning round would make them feel more vulnerable. That doesn't make sense to me. Even if you don't know what the aggressive person is upset about it's clear from the shouting and gesturing that they're not in a very rational frame of mind.

I've used a stick for over a decade. I'm not the one saying that she should have been using a stick. I'm the one saying that given both her right arm and her right leg are not working properly, if a leg brace works for her it makes much more sense to keep her useable left arm free.

I doubt you could turn around and get away in time, especially if you were in your seventies. Only if you could turn down a side street instead. I do understand a panicked decision of thinking going past was the best option.

If you're riding a bike of course you can get away in time but in any case it's highly unlikely any cyclist would do that. The most sensible thing to do, which I would have done, would be to get off the bike and either stand and wait for the angry person to go by, or wheel my bike past them. I definitely wouldn't continue to cycle straight towards them.

‘She should never have worn that skirt’

Meanwhile all this conjecture about what we might/ might not do if facing an aggressive person, or whether Auriol Grey had a stick, leg brace or neither, is a distraction from the actual issue. Which is that both people, the pedestrian and the cyclist, had a right to be using the path. It was a shared space.
Grey didn't like that fact and swore, shouted at and then flung her arm out making contact with the cyclist. That is the issue and she caused the cyclist to swerve off the path and under a car.

You'd have to completely stop, turn the bike, and get going again. It's risky. However, there's no way I'd be walking past Grey in the deranged state shown in that video.

@entiawest
You are completely right, and it could happen again.

as long as it isn't encumbered by a fucking stick.

Do tell me.....is that different to an ordinary walking stick?🙂

So if she can take money/credit card out of her bag, presumably she can also put items of shopping into a bag with her left hand?* *And, as said before, the staff will help her - if she shops there regularly, they probably know her well.

Agree. The cyclist would have needed to be psychic to have known she needed to dismount, especially as Grey was walking unaided without walking aids, and the video shows her making reasonable progress walking along the footpath. She certainly did not show as veering from side to side or struggling to walk by appearing shaky.

But that left hand, her only functioning hand, would be occupied by a stick. I have used a stick for many years. No problem. I have recently developed a problem mildly affecting my non-stick arm. And doing anything has got exponentially harder. Something as simple as opening a door to walk through has become a logistical struggle. It would be so, so much easier if I could just manage without the stick and keep my good hand free. Which is likely why she just relies on the leg brace, given that her right arm is clearly affected by her hemiplegia.

God some of these posts. I do despair at how quick to judge people are.and how lacking in compassion and understanding.

I was delighted to see her conviction overturned. It was quite horrifying that she was ever convicted in the first place.

She is disabled and has a brain injury. And no one should be convicted of manslaughter for simply gesturing and shouting. It's horrifying that anyone thinks this is appropriate in a just society. Thankfully our law is more reasonable and fair than this albeit it should never have got this far.

This. Absolutely.

I ask again: how do you know she actually wears a leg brace - or indeed that she is in the regular habit of wearing the leg brace? Where does your information come from? You say it is 'likely' - but 'likely' doesn't mean that you are correct.

Also, where does your information come from that her right arm is 'clearly affected by her hemiplegia'. Are you a doctor?

Grey clearly has the option of having someone shop for her. The fact that she doesn't find it necessary to avail herself of this seems to indicate that she is able to manage on her own when out.

Yes, I've been a doctor for a quarter of a century. You could literally use video of her walking (and that of her being interviewed by the police) as examples for medical students.

Awful comment.

It’s because she’s older and a woman. Means she’s fair game to be called a “bulldog” and people hope that she gets accosted on the street.

Sure you are.

She is disabled and has a brain injury.

People with a brain injury are more likely to have anger and aggression issues. I was put in hospital by such a person, and they were later convicted. I was lucky it wasn't worse.

Grey showed not one iota of compassion and understanding to her victim.

Her callous disregard for another human life is why so many are appalled by her actions.

If she’s that capable of walking away without a second glance at an horrific scene , Grey is not safe to be out unaccompanied in many people’s opinion.

Would people be so softy Walter and “ let’s excuse poor Patrick Mackay because he too had had a brain injury?
He too was equally uncaring- but resides in a secure unit- Probably as he is a man.