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themotherhoodproject · 2024-05-08T07:23:13+00:00

NC for this as a regular user of MN and this is fairly outing but looking for peoples unbiased opinions. DD is an A level Art student, it’s actually not where her love lies she is hoping to apply for BIMM’s university In Bristol to peruse music and she also does performing arts. However she is very talented in her painting and blows me away weekly with her work, we have had a few extra special things from her (some of you might remember the snowman Christmas card, it seemed very popular) and lots of people on here saying that they would buy if able too. Another few months have gone by and we just had another cracker of a card from her (a thank you card for a friend) and well I just think it’s wonderful and have said she should really think about taking on commissions. We live in a very rural area so lots of horse and dog lovers and I honestly think she could make a bit of pocket money to put away for uni life --or fritter away on gigs noodles and vinyl -- Can I ask what people think, she is only a year into A level art and will have lots more of technique to learn but maybe £15 a painting she might have some takers?

sunglassesonthetable · 09/05/2024 11:19

has anyone on this thread contacted the OP for an order out of interest?

You're hilarious.

Are you intent on squeezing just anything negative out of a thread about a teenager drawing horses?

sunglassesonthetable · 09/05/2024 11:19

@beetforever

beetforever · 09/05/2024 11:19

sunglassesonthetable · 09/05/2024 11:16

i must have missed the OP’s update where she says her DD posted the pic on social media and said she was available for orders, and her friends spoke to their families and friends and in the space of a few hours… 7 orders

You didn't miss it. Because an itinerary of the day is not a requirement. Gutting for the conspiracists out there I know.

Do you use Snap Chat ? Or TikTok?

goodness

being intrigued about how she got 7 orders in the space of half a day really has riled you hasn’t it?

sunglassesonthetable · 09/05/2024 11:22

*goodness

being intrigued about how she got 7 orders in the space of half a day really has riled you hasn’t it?*

I think it's really clear who has got riled on this thread.

beetforever · 09/05/2024 11:33

sunglassesonthetable · 09/05/2024 11:22

*goodness

being intrigued about how she got 7 orders in the space of half a day really has riled you hasn’t it?*

I think it's really clear who has got riled on this thread.

just as aside

are you aware of the Quote button?

sunglassesonthetable · 09/05/2024 11:35

🤣👌🏼

Goldenbear · 09/05/2024 11:37

SabreIsMyFave · 09/05/2024 10:49

Calm down you'll give yourself a nosebleed.

OP asked what people thought, and people have given their views and opinions. Most have been kind. A few have given constructive criticism... @ArseInTheCoOpWindow may not have come across very well, (little bit abrupt!) but she was an art teacher, so she knows what she's talking about.

As for, 'anyone who produces a picture or drawing is an artist,' there may well be a grain of truth in that, but good luck trying to sell your work. Most people want proper top quality work, or something very unique. Some would argue that L.S. Lowry's paintings weren't very sophisticated, but he sold millions with his little 'matchstalk men.'

I am 5 ft 4 and slightly overweight, but I scrub up quite well. If I go and put a pretty dress on, and nice make up, and do my hair, and do some self timed photos, does that make me a model? Will people pay me for my photos, and pay me to model clothes for them because I scrubbed up OK? No. I can't just be a model just because I took some half decent posed photos, any more than anyone can 'just be an artist' because they rustled up a few drawings and paintings!

Whilst we need to nurture the talent and gifts of our children, we can't just blithely walk through life, telling them every single thing they do - and produce - is super brilliant, (and then get all huffy and butthurt when people disagree.) You are also setting them up for a fall, and to be laughed at and mocked.

I know a woman who has a 17 y.o. daughter who has produced 2 books, and has them on Amazon, and I have read both of them.

They are soooo bad! 😬 Bad grammar, spelling errors, inconsistencies in the story, one part where she says Stafford borders Wales, and similar mistakes. I would never say anything to her, (she would not listen anyway and would say I am 'jealous!') But these 2 books are poor. And others I have spoken to have said the same. But according to this woman, her daughter is a 'writer.' I think she has sold about 30 books!

It's like these parents who used to take their (teen and young adult) children on X factor, thinking they sounded like Celine Dion or Whitney Houston. The judges would tell them they weren't good enough, and had a long way to go, and they'd throw a tantrum and storm off the stage, and the parents would yell at the judges and tell them they don't know what they are talking about. I imagine the OP (and a few other posters here,) acting the same when they're told 'no!'

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Can anyone be an Artist is a debate that surely you have come across? Is it an innate talent or can it be taught. Art is about re-writing the rules, opening up new vistas. The model comparison is a poor one as there are technical limitations to that job if you are referring to a traditional notion of what a model is (which I think you are with the sarcastic undertones)so you need to be tall, thin, good bone structure and to carry yourself well. My DH is an Architect, he went to Art college so this informs his designs but ultimately there are technical limitations to his pieces that he legally has to comply with, that isn’t the case for ‘Art’ but that’s not the same as suggesting everything is Art and everyone can be an Artist. And this is why you get the hackneyed line of, “my 6 year old could produce that” as the rules around Art are seemingly debatable.

Roundandroundthegard3n · 09/05/2024 11:42

SabreIsMyFave · 09/05/2024 10:49

Calm down you'll give yourself a nosebleed.

OP asked what people thought, and people have given their views and opinions. Most have been kind. A few have given constructive criticism... @ArseInTheCoOpWindow may not have come across very well, (little bit abrupt!) but she was an art teacher, so she knows what she's talking about.

As for, 'anyone who produces a picture or drawing is an artist,' there may well be a grain of truth in that, but good luck trying to sell your work. Most people want proper top quality work, or something very unique. Some would argue that L.S. Lowry's paintings weren't very sophisticated, but he sold millions with his little 'matchstalk men.'

I am 5 ft 4 and slightly overweight, but I scrub up quite well. If I go and put a pretty dress on, and nice make up, and do my hair, and do some self timed photos, does that make me a model? Will people pay me for my photos, and pay me to model clothes for them because I scrubbed up OK? No. I can't just be a model just because I took some half decent posed photos, any more than anyone can 'just be an artist' because they rustled up a few drawings and paintings!

Whilst we need to nurture the talent and gifts of our children, we can't just blithely walk through life, telling them every single thing they do - and produce - is super brilliant, (and then get all huffy and butthurt when people disagree.) You are also setting them up for a fall, and to be laughed at and mocked.

I know a woman who has a 17 y.o. daughter who has produced 2 books, and has them on Amazon, and I have read both of them.

They are soooo bad! 😬 Bad grammar, spelling errors, inconsistencies in the story, one part where she says Stafford borders Wales, and similar mistakes. I would never say anything to her, (she would not listen anyway and would say I am 'jealous!') But these 2 books are poor. And others I have spoken to have said the same. But according to this woman, her daughter is a 'writer.' I think she has sold about 30 books!

It's like these parents who used to take their (teen and young adult) children on X factor, thinking they sounded like Celine Dion or Whitney Houston. The judges would tell them they weren't good enough, and had a long way to go, and they'd throw a tantrum and storm off the stage, and the parents would yell at the judges and tell them they don't know what they are talking about. I imagine the OP (and a few other posters here,) acting the same when they're told 'no!'

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Calm down, you'll give yourself a nosebleed.

sunglassesonthetable · 09/05/2024 12:42

It's like these parents who used to take their (teen and young adult) children on X factor, thinking they sounded like Celine Dion or Whitney Houston. The judges would tell them they weren't good enough, and had a long way to go, and they'd throw a tantrum and storm off the stage, and the parents would yell at the judges and tell them they don't know what they are talking about. I imagine the OP (and a few other posters here,) acting the same when they're told 'no!'

So you don't want a £20 pet portrait then?

alrightluv · 09/05/2024 12:53

7 orders that's fantastic 👏 Really pleased for her.
I'd come off/hide the thread now if I were you @themotherhoodproject .

Goldenbear · 09/05/2024 13:06

alrightluv · 09/05/2024 12:53

7 orders that's fantastic 👏 Really pleased for her.
I'd come off/hide the thread now if I were you @themotherhoodproject .

No don’t encourage that we haven’t had a chance for the cross-examination as to the how, why and where the OP and her DD know 7 whole people, I mean for some knowing 7 people is just complete fiction! Who knows that many people!! Come off it!

SabreIsMyFave · 09/05/2024 13:07

Roundandroundthegard3n · 09/05/2024 11:42

Calm down, you'll give yourself a nosebleed.

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That's quite the comeback @Roundandroundthegard3n Repeating a line someone else said, with nothing else to add. Have a medal .... 🏅

CasadeCoca · 09/05/2024 13:10

Calliopespa · 09/05/2024 10:18

Oh this is just mean. Pet portraits are lovely things to have and pet owners can’t all afford to have it done by Richard Stone.

There are markets and markets and some are pitched more accessibly than others.

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It isn't mean it is saying there are different markets, some for fine art, some for decorative art, some for memorabilia/souvenirs, and aesthetic sensibilities are different for each.

SabreIsMyFave · 09/05/2024 13:12

beetforever · 09/05/2024 11:19

goodness

being intrigued about how she got 7 orders in the space of half a day really has riled you hasn’t it?

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Exactly. If it IS true, I imagine the OP messaging everyone she knows, (and posting on facebook,) with a copy of the horse picture, peddling her daughter's wares, and saying 'she will do one for you for just £15, you just need to order today, and send me a photograph of what you want her to paint. ROLL UP ROLL UP!'

I reckon this happened. Because that is the ONLY way that the OP's DD could have got SEVEN ORDERS in the space of half a day. (If she has that is.)

I genuinely don't get threads like these.

'Critique my DD's artwork...'

'It's a bit basic and needs improvement.'

'You're all WRONG and all so MEAN. My daughter is gifted at art, gifted I tellz ya! And SEVEN people have put orders in for her work now, and THAT is just in a few hours. So there!'

Riverlee · 09/05/2024 13:19

If she’s charging £15 and it takes six hours to do one painting, then she’s going to be a very busy girl. That’s less than £3 per hour (plus equipment costs).

For fifteen pounds, (and I knew her), I’d probably put an order in. Not so much if it were fifty or a hundred pounds.

Goldenbear · 09/05/2024 13:22

SabreIsMyFave · 09/05/2024 13:12

Exactly. If it IS true, I imagine the OP messaging everyone she knows, (and posting on facebook,) with a copy of the horse picture, peddling her daughter's wares, and saying 'she will do one for you for just £15, you just need to order today, and send me a photograph of what you want her to paint. ROLL UP ROLL UP!'

I reckon this happened. Because that is the ONLY way that the OP's DD could have got SEVEN ORDERS in the space of half a day. (If she has that is.)

I genuinely don't get threads like these.

'Critique my DD's artwork...'

'It's a bit basic and needs improvement.'

'You're all WRONG and all so MEAN. My daughter is gifted at art, gifted I tellz ya! And SEVEN people have put orders in for her work now, and THAT is just in a few hours. So there!'

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Do you work for the Mail with a sensationalist spin on the thread like that!

Why do you care so much? You don’t believe that people have friends and family?

Is this worth £15 was what I got from the initial OP opening post not please come and critique and compare my 6th daughter’s work with established adult Artists and throw in some belittling, angry comments about her work whilst you are at it even though nobody gives a shit except you!

Calliopespa · 09/05/2024 13:24

SabreIsMyFave · 09/05/2024 13:12

Exactly. If it IS true, I imagine the OP messaging everyone she knows, (and posting on facebook,) with a copy of the horse picture, peddling her daughter's wares, and saying 'she will do one for you for just £15, you just need to order today, and send me a photograph of what you want her to paint. ROLL UP ROLL UP!'

I reckon this happened. Because that is the ONLY way that the OP's DD could have got SEVEN ORDERS in the space of half a day. (If she has that is.)

I genuinely don't get threads like these.

'Critique my DD's artwork...'

'It's a bit basic and needs improvement.'

'You're all WRONG and all so MEAN. My daughter is gifted at art, gifted I tellz ya! And SEVEN people have put orders in for her work now, and THAT is just in a few hours. So there!'

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I think she was proud and wanting to share it. There are worse things people are driven to - and it hasn’t exactly been a love fest for OP.

It’s one of the lessons we all get as parents ( or at least as unconditionally loving parents): nobody ( except perhaps grandparents) sees our dc quite as we do. It’s a natural instinct and she probably posted on here to save her dd the embarrassment of boasting to friends IRL.

And I think the art is very impressive for her DD’s age.

sunglassesonthetable · 09/05/2024 13:25

It isn't mean it is saying there are different markets, some for fine art, some for decorative art, some for memorabilia/souvenirs, and aesthetic sensibilities are different for each.

Please, you used the word " discerning ". It's a value judgement.

We're not stupid.

Calliopespa · 09/05/2024 13:26

sunglassesonthetable · 09/05/2024 13:25

It isn't mean it is saying there are different markets, some for fine art, some for decorative art, some for memorabilia/souvenirs, and aesthetic sensibilities are different for each.

Please, you used the word " discerning ". It's a value judgement.

We're not stupid.

Indeed we are not.

sunglassesonthetable · 09/05/2024 13:30

*Exactly. If it IS true, I imagine the OP messaging everyone she knows, (and posting on facebook,) with a copy of the horse picture, peddling her daughter's wares, and saying 'she will do one for you for just £15, you just need to order today, and send me a photograph of what you want her to paint. ROLL UP ROLL UP!'

I reckon this happened. Because that is the ONLY way that the OP's DD could have got SEVEN ORDERS in the space of half a day. (If she has that is.)

I genuinely don't get threads like these.

'Critique my DD's artwork...'

'It's a bit basic and needs improvement.'

'You're all WRONG and all so MEAN. My daughter is gifted at art, gifted I tellz ya! And SEVEN people have put orders in for her work now, and THAT is just in a few hours. So there!'*

Dear me. You're not on SnapChat then?My teen would have got it out to 10x that number. I'm surprised it's only 7 commissions.

Chill out. Do you even have kids ?

sunglassesonthetable · 09/05/2024 13:30

@SabreIsMyFave

sunglassesonthetable · 09/05/2024 13:33

I reckon this happened. Because that is the ONLY way that the OP's DD could have got SEVEN ORDERS in the space of half a day. (If she has that is.)

Says the SM expert.

This is wild.

sunglassesonthetable · 09/05/2024 13:36

@SabreIsMyFave

" Critique my artwork "

Is that a phrase you just think you read?

Calliopespa · 09/05/2024 13:36

Just imagine if she actually DIDN’T!! Just imagine a mum trying to defend her DD from insults like yours!

The artwork is great for an A level student and her mum is justifiably proud. Stop being such a child.

Roundandroundthegard3n · 09/05/2024 14:11

Thanks for the medal. I just thought as it was such an utterly stupid thing to say, I should reply back to you on your own wavelength.