Permanent exclusion

[MarilynAlice]

My son was permanently excluded from school 5 months ago I have been fighting it ever since as they were discriminating him and manipulating suspensions. I took it to an independent panel amd they quashed the decision of the governing body and directed they review the exclusion again because of how flawed it was. At the independent review they completely made up a new lie that my child strangled another child, they have literally re wrote incident forms and got the child to re write their statement nearly 5 months down the line saying the strangling took place, they have submitted these to the reconsideration panel, surely this is not allowed.

You can't just walk into a new school with this in your file though

You speak to the LA and ask them to help you find a place.

I’m assuming you don’t want him back to this particular school but want it removed so it isn’t on his file? It sounds like the relationship has broken down so probably not a good environment for him to go back into. I would make this clear to the school and also seek help from the local authority in admitting to another school.

However I think schools can only refuse to admit when a pupil has been permanently excluded twice, not once. Unless you’re concerned this is going to happen again - or he already has one permanent exclusion on his record, I’d try and get the best out of the situation. But if the local authority have suggested a different provision and he has been offered a place elsewhere this may be trickier. Alternative provisions are often not forever but will support in helping move back to mainstream if that’s the most appropriate place for him, if he has been out of school for five months, this isn’t going to be an easy transition so support may be worth it. A long commute for 6 to 8 weeks might be worth it in taking the longer view.

You can just walk into a new school with this on your file.

I have worked in education for twenty years and all children are entitled to an education.

I have often worked with kids who have been violent. A surprisingly large number of teens are at some point.

He may be offered a managed move or alternative provision.

Reflecting on this some more, I also think this you’re fighting the wrong battle.

Did you engage with help the first time he was suspended? What was put in place? Did you have a plan to support him to manage his behaviour in school? When he was diagnosed with ADHD, did you consider all the treatment options? Medication, counselling?

A lot of water has gone under the bridge since the beginning of this process and it’s really too late to be appealing a PEX. Better to start afresh with a firm plan and support.

Do you want him at a school you don't trust though?

They arent a myth when it comes to school admissions. A school can refuse entry to a pupil with 2, and actually they can with 1 if they feel its a strong chance of the behaviour repeating and they already have too many pupils with challenging behaviour. They can ask the pupil is put back in the fair access protocol.

OP, Was the exclusion for a one off incident or persistent distuptive behaviour?

If it happened I would of knew about it 5 months ago none of the statements say he strangled anyone that were dated 5 months ago they've re wrote them last week to say that he did

Ok, but why would they do that?

They never even mentioned the strangulation at the governors board it's never been mentioned until we were at the irp amd the evidence they supplied for his pex was completely tore to pieces, now 5 months down the line they have re wrote statements, if he strangled someone they would of been in the original statements but there's nothing up until last week when they submitted evidence with the new re written statements

Because they made it up on the spot after been challenged for 6.5 hours and tore to pieces now they have to back it up, it's disgusting

All they will provide is a referral unit he doesn't belong in one

If he has an in person place in a referral unit, i would work with them. They are normally very good, especially with adhd and they aim to re-intergrate with mainstream.

I suppose it depends whether you want him to have an education, after being out of school for five months, or whether you’re insisting on pursuing the school from which he’s been excluded.

What’s in your son’s best interests? To receive an education or to be without any?

Has he had exclusions along the way OP? Any managed moves offered or tried? Have you had meetings with staff to discuss his behaviours prior to the decision to PEx?

Fighting the wrong battle they have made children re write statements and they have re wrote incident reports they cant get away with that it's disgusting

It wont be made up, it will just be more detailed than the original, if they didn't put enough detail in the original statement

What and the child's just happily written a statement about something that didn't happen? I don't know OP I worked in education for a long time and that's very doubtful.

Your child's done nothing but have a fight and they're taking it to this level?
All the staff work, paperwork etc, making children lie, all made up for no reason?

It's entirely possible new allegations have come to light

His not getting an education in a refferal unit anyway was there for 3 days and was doing bloody phonics while kids were pulling out metal poles and spitting in teachers faces

It is made up there's 6 statements originally none say strangulation all say he was took out the lesson for telling a student to fuck off

Yes maybe his been put under pressure, I have all the original statements from the incident, 6 statements that say my son was removed from lesson for telling a child to fuck off, now 5 months down the line it's changed, because on the spot at the irp the ht made it up

In the secondary school I work at, every student we have PX was not coping in mainstream. You also have to consider that schools are only allowed 1 or maybe 2 PX a year so if your child is the one they have selected then it should tell you that he’s really not coping with the current provision. They also have to prove that they’ve put in place lots of interventions and support before first.

Why would educational professionals destroy evidence and have children submit made-up statements retrospectively?
That would be career-ending.

It's not that I don't believe you; it's just that, without hearing the other side of this saga, it is very hard to ascertain what is accurate here.

You are choosing to have him out of school rather than use a pru while this is ongoing? I admire your tenacity but wonder if ir might be better to accept this school is no longer viable and move on. Are LA providing home tuition? Can he have a managed move after exclusion? What support can he get for adhd ?