Is this abusive parenting?

[Plsdiscuss]

Would love to hear your thoughts

God knows. This shit is a religion to some, so is raising a child as an Orthodox Jew or Catholic child abuse?

No because catholics and orthodox Jews are not required to remove body parts

Your mind is going to be blown when you google "brit milah"

It is not intended to be abusive, it is intended to be non stereotyping. It is intended to allow the child freedom from defined gender roles. I think the intentions are good. But taken to extremes, yes, it is probably harmful

I always tend to think those posts are made up to get a reaction. Flump queen just wants some attention.

I very much doubt it happened

Do Orthodox Jews keep their foreskin then?

Foreskins for Jews?

Nope it is on par with raising a child in any religion in my opinion. Then they get old enough to make their own decision.

Raising a child non binary doesn't mean mutilation. The jump is absolutely colossal and unfair.

People have been raising children non conforming for a while just didn't label it.
I can see the attraction given the nonsense girls still have thrown at them as a default- fillers, clothing etc

It isn't my bag but each to their own.

I mean it doesn't hit the NSPCC definitions the parents would probably justify that they are directly not emotionally abusive as "they are recognising a child's own individuality or not trying to control their lives". Personally I think it hits the other way, he is male, he is a boy if that is the genitalia / chromosomes he has and not recognizing that is harmful. Children feel safest and most secure with boundaries and rules and knowing whether you are a boy or a girl and how the bodies differ must be the most basic one.

You can still encourage non stereotyped play and clothing without going down the gender ideology rabbit hole. But the parents will think they are doing the right thing and it stems both from the very sensible pushback on stereotyped behaviours and the "let toys be toys" type movement and got all muddled with the trans issue and gained traction.

The replies on here are a bit disingenuous. It's clear the child of the hypothetical people on the train is being raised to believe there are more than two gender identities, they can decide how they 'identify' when they're older (bet they won't be allowed to choose whatever sex they were born as). That is completely different from being raised in a way that doesn't conform to gender stereotypes; boys wear blue, play football, and with cars, girls wear pink, do dancing, and play with dolls.
Whatever way you look at it, it's an odd stance and slightly confrontational reply (if this even happened), but not child abuse, no.

I doubt it happened tbh, but no it's likely not abusive. Unless you're talking physical violence, abusive parenting is rarely about one act or one decision. If that child is being brought up in a loving home by loving parents, they'll likely be absolutely fine.

And once they encounter other DC they'll be almost instantly aware that boys have willies and girls don't (at a minimum), because young children find this endlessly fascinating. More nuanced discussion can happen at home and continue as they grow older.

Well that’s patently not true as circumcision is compulsory in one of the religions mentioned.

In my role working across many schools, I can fully believe it happened.

The debate "is this abusive?" is one that happens in the office from time to time. I wondered what MN thought.

How can a 2 year old choose to be non binary?

It's a different belief system.

I don't share it or agree with it but parents have the right to raise their children in their own beliefs.

Just as we don't interfere with those raising children fundamentalist religious beliefs or radical political beliefs

It's not abusive. Don't through words like that around. That diminishes and minimises actual abuse.

DHOTYA

Or chose to be a Christian
Or a vegan
Or a communist
Or a radical environmentalist
Or a Manchester United fan

Yet families bring their children up with different beliefs in every home in the land

I don't agree with it but it's not abusive parenting. Queenoftheflumps is a rude twat though.

I don't think it's abusive. Save that word for real abuse.

However, I do think that poor kid is going to grow up into a nightmare and blame the parents when older.

Last time I checked, being non-binary didn't require the removal of body parts.

Not abusive, but stupid and setting your child up to be the weird kid who gets bullied.

Also re. Orthodox Jews, most of us aren't supportive of children being circumcised for that religion either.

Oh well, you can't argue with stupid, can you?

This didn't happen, but I'm sure the screenshots taken from this thread will pop up everywhere.

You just have to spend 10 seconds on MN to get the general consensus on trans/non binary folk without having to share the lies people tell to whip people into a frenzy.

@MinervaMcGonagallsCat And they're wrong to do so