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Chance of a lifetime or too good to be true? Notting Hill, London flat.

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Springingintolife · 26/04/2024 18:04

Sorry, long one, but trying not to drip-feed.

I'm on homeswapper and have been a while as I feel very cut off where I live due to not driving, having an illness (fibromyalgia and hypermobility) and not being close to the bus stops to just nip about and do things with my nearly 5 year old daughter.

What I have is a 2 bed semi with front and back garden and a drive in a semi rural area on the outskirts of a large town in the south east. Ten minutes drive from the beach and can get into London within an hour. I feel you have to have quite a bit of money here to have a good quality of life with a child, as everything has entry fees and needs driving to, or takes quite a while on public transport.

That's the reason I've been on homeswapper. I have looked at some places and talked to people about swaps before but they haven't worked out for various reasons. I've never pulled out on anyone- apart from one flat which was splashed on the front page of a local paper for having serious mould issues, just after the swap was approved.

Someone has contacted me with a one bedroom ground floor flat in a very very posh road next to Notting Hill, with a private garden, and I'm having a think about whether this would be the change I would need. The reason they want to move is they don't have RTB and they want to buy somewhere. (Let's leave the RTB debate out of this conversation please!). I have RTB but as I'm not able to work full time at the moment, it wouldn't be something I could make the most of.

Positives about the swap- I grew up on the other side of London so it's familiar. Has a garden still. Smaller flat so less cleaning and maintenance. They seem to think the tenancy gives the right to do work to the flat and thinks the living room could be converted to two bedrooms, so potential future bedroom issues may not be an issue. Free public transport for children. Free museums so things to do at the weekend. Lovely parks with paddling pools in London. My brother lives on the other side of London and is expecting a child with his DP so closer to a cousin for my DD and could afford to visit regularly. Get to be in an affluent area so if I wanted to do some part time work like tutoring or cleaning, I could charge a decent amount. Might meet rich handsome man. Can access universities if I decide to go back to studying one day. More going on. More inspiring area to keep me motivated and improve mental/physical health on nice walks. Always somewhere new to see. DD is mixed race so would be in a more diverse area.

Negatives- losing the RTB but potentially could swap again when DD is a teenager. Losing a bedroom and would need to do work in the future to create an extra space and can't guarantee I would be earning enough to fund it. Flat doesn't have double glazing so might be colder in the winter and cost more to heat. Although I looked online and has same energy rating as mine. Potentially smaller space to heat. Person said they would take everything with them including the oak flooring, so I'd have to move in with potentially a concrete floor and put carpet onto a credit card, although cost of this would be offset by not having to buy a car and learn to drive more imminently. Housing association don't have great reviews online for repairs, but looks like person has spent a lot of money installing new things into the property. (Apart from the oak floor, which they say they're taking). Possibly having noisy neighbours above us. Although I already have a shouty next door neighbour anyway. We lose the beach, but it's cold most of the year anyway. We lose the countryside, but I don't manage to get out and about in it enough anyway.

However, I don't know about the area these days, as I left London years ago and I hear it's changed a lot, so I wanted some honest mumsnet experience.

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Springingintolife · 26/04/2024 18:05

Oh btw the rent is about £100 a month more than I'm paying now, but would be covered by my UC.

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blackcherryconserve · 26/04/2024 18:11

But. One Bedroom with a DC? Not too practical really.

Almahart · 26/04/2024 18:12

I would bite their hand off!

NeatCompactSleeper · 26/04/2024 18:13

My BIL and SIL would say you're absolutely mad to consider Notting Hill, as they spent almost 11 years trying to get a swap for their council flat there.

They hated the area as it's one where some of it is affluent, then you turn a corner and it's anything but, so the stark difference between the rich and the destitute was quite obvious and upsetting.

Plus the carnival brought nothing but misery to them and their neighbours, and they'd have to board up their flats and move out for a few days, especially when my nephew was born.

Springingintolife · 26/04/2024 18:24

NeatCompactSleeper · 26/04/2024 18:13

My BIL and SIL would say you're absolutely mad to consider Notting Hill, as they spent almost 11 years trying to get a swap for their council flat there.

They hated the area as it's one where some of it is affluent, then you turn a corner and it's anything but, so the stark difference between the rich and the destitute was quite obvious and upsetting.

Plus the carnival brought nothing but misery to them and their neighbours, and they'd have to board up their flats and move out for a few days, especially when my nephew was born.

Edited

Well, I'm poor, so I don't have a problem seeing other poor people.

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Springingintolife · 26/04/2024 18:26

blackcherryconserve · 26/04/2024 18:11

But. One Bedroom with a DC? Not too practical really.

She sleeps with me anyway, and prefers to play in the living room than her bedroom. Her bedroom is just a store room anyway, so it seems a waste of space. The woman seems to think the living room is massive enough to be converted to two rooms, but I'll have to view.

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MichaelAndEagle · 26/04/2024 18:28

I would do it in a heart beat, for all the reasons you've said.

FAAFOMS · 26/04/2024 18:28

Bite.Their.Hand.Off!!!

user1471538283 · 26/04/2024 18:29

Depending on the size of the lounge and what street it is, neighbours etc it sounds great! It sounds quite isolating where you are.

NeatCompactSleeper · 26/04/2024 18:30

Springingintolife · 26/04/2024 18:24

Well, I'm poor, so I don't have a problem seeing other poor people.

That's not what I meant and I suspect you know it.

The massive divide between the wealthy and the destitute is what's sickening and it's so in your face.

Civilservant · 26/04/2024 18:30

Don’t think 1 bedroom would work and seems unlikely to be permissible to change it to 2

Pinkl · 26/04/2024 18:31

The carnival is definitely something to consider as preparations, the actual event and then the clean up would mean severe disruption over several days. I do love attending the carnival, but I can imagine how hard it would be to live in the area and particularly on the ground floor.

Springingintolife · 26/04/2024 18:31

FAAFOMS · 26/04/2024 18:28

Bite.Their.Hand.Off!!!

Well I hope so! she said she's got some other people interested, but hopefully she will see the benefit in my place for a long term financial investment. Although after her saying she's taking all her things with her, like the oak flooring, I'm worried she'll be ripping the bath and shower out too.

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SadieJS · 26/04/2024 18:32

Your daughter will need her own room in the future. I'd be worried about finding another swap, especially from one bedroom to two.

Vermin · 26/04/2024 18:32

The problem with being poor in Notting Hill is not the poor people but the rich people - everything is mindbendingly expensive (but excellent charity shops on the flip side).

which school catchment is it in?

GoldenTrout · 26/04/2024 18:32

Springingintolife · 26/04/2024 18:26

She sleeps with me anyway, and prefers to play in the living room than her bedroom. Her bedroom is just a store room anyway, so it seems a waste of space. The woman seems to think the living room is massive enough to be converted to two rooms, but I'll have to view.

Surely she won't always sleep with you? As she grows up she's going to want her own space, and to have friends round

How old is she, and have you looked into schools?

Springingintolife · 26/04/2024 18:32

NeatCompactSleeper · 26/04/2024 18:30

That's not what I meant and I suspect you know it.

The massive divide between the wealthy and the destitute is what's sickening and it's so in your face.

Yes, but I'd be on the other side of it. I'm one of the destitute, living on one of the lowest family incomes in the country, so I wouldn't mind looking at the rich from my side of the coin.

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Home1mprov3ments · 26/04/2024 18:33

Cost of living in central London is likely to be way higher than where you are now.

Vermin · 26/04/2024 18:34

Looking at them is all very well but the price of a cup of coffee, cinema ticket etc etc is all geared towards the very rich.

Springingintolife · 26/04/2024 18:34

Civilservant · 26/04/2024 18:30

Don’t think 1 bedroom would work and seems unlikely to be permissible to change it to 2

She seems to think the tenancy is an old one which allows for work to be done on the property. I can see from the photos she's had a lot of work done on it.

I'd have to see the tenancy to see for myself. But when you swap with social housing, you swap tenancies also- they don't create a new one.

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PhuckyNell · 26/04/2024 18:34

The 'might meet a rich handsome husband' sold it for me!!

good luck and please report back! (On either the property or the man)

GoldenTrout · 26/04/2024 18:34

Surely ripping up the floor is going to leave quite a mess? Is the tenant even allowed to do that?

larenern · 26/04/2024 18:36

I did a homeswap from house in a Midlands suburb to a flat close to the City in zone 1. Never regretted it at all. In some ways the London area was a worse deal, it was a deprived estate but still on the same street as expensive penthouse flats. The London schools were not good, though in the end that worked itself out as my DS got a different placement due to his SEN.

I have health issues and London is definitely a nicer place to be to keep dcs entertained and stimulated. The suburb we left was pretty dull, the schools and other public services were perhaps less overcrowded but it had a very static, unambitious vibe. I've been able to make the most of opportunities in London, studying at Birkbeck, new hobbies, nice parks, museums and interesting places for the dcs.

We did move from a 2 bed to a 2 bed (never had more dcs so it's always been fine). It's tricky finding a homeswap within London to a bigger property, because transport is fairly easy, so people won't move to a smaller place just because they urgently need to be in an area to be near family for example - they can just take the tube to get to them. I had rtb on both properties and I was able to buy my flat 2 years ago.

Houseplantmad · 26/04/2024 18:38

Yes, yes, yes. Do it. I was there last weekend and it’s great area - really diverse and interesting. The carnival is only a weekend and to be embraced!

Mercury2702 · 26/04/2024 18:39

Will both your housing providers allow you to effectively make yourself overcrowded in their eyes? My council wouldn’t, regardless of if your daughter is happier to sleep with you

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