Dd hit car whilst riding her bike

[Sfuandtired]

Dd 17 has collided with a car tonight whilst riding her bike, she was crossing the road and from what I can make out didn’t see the car turning, she hit the car with her wheel leaving a dent and was thrown over the handle bars banging her head on the window, the driver got out, asked if she was ok, took her name and phone number, then said he was late for work and drove of!
Dd has since had a text saying she will be sent a bill and bank details for the damage to the car! WWYD?

Threads like this really anger me. Your dd was riding on a pavement which is an offence in the uk. She hit a car and now you’re trying to get away Scot free. 4 years ago a scumbag like her went off a pavement into my car and rode away. I’ve had to pay the premiums on my insurance ever since my car was damaged.

she was at fault so pay the price and teach her not to ride on pavements. If she doesn’t feel safe on the road then she shouldn’t be biking

THe 17 year old in this case was on a bicycle.

As far as the law is concerned, it is exactly the same.

If a cyclist goes over the handlebars and hits their head on your window, asking them if they’re ok is totally inadequate. They need to be checked over medically. Anyone who doesn’t grasp this is totally irresponsible.

Not every bumped head needs a medical professional to see it, especially when the injured person is wearing a helmet. He was in a better position to judge how hard the bump was than you are.

Who caused the accident is up for debate and even if neither or both or at fault, it’s irrelevant: the police still need to be informed. Drivers routinely think they’re not at fault when they are. It’s up to the police to determine.

It is not up for debate, she rode in to him while riding on the pavement. That’s what the OP says so that’s what we take as fact. The cyclist 100% caused the incident, it would waste police time by asking them to investigate the obvious.

Funnily enough culpabilty in road accidents is not determined by MNers with diagrams.

This is all deeply ignorant. The severity of a head injury can only be assessed by a medical professional. How hard the bump appears to be is irrelevant, (how would he know) if you had the remotest acquaintance with head injuries.

All accidents are up for debate. Particularly ones no-one on this forum witnessed.

It’s staggering that you actually don’t understand these points at all.

She did not hit the car, the car hit her OP. Report it to the police.

That would be for the police to determine - but they weren't called and the drive left the scene, and that can be an offence

I’ve fell off my bicycle and had a head injury, unconscious, can’t remember much, blood and a big cut on head, A&E wasn’t too concerned 😟 and gave me a leaflet about what to do if you’ve suffered a head injury!!

On the first page of this thread the OP states that her daughter isn't injured although she worried that she might get a bruise on her face. For all we know the driver didn't even see what happened - he might well have been looking to his right then the OP's daughter hit him - and may have been unaware that her head made contact with his car.

If the OP doesn't consider her daughter to be injured, despite being told what happened, then why should the driver be responsible for getting her medical attention? He asked if she was ok and she seems to have said that she was.

You were the one who asked 😂
and as you’re on MN it’s obvious you are asking MNs

Opinions all here ^^ to go through then

She went off the pavement into his car. She should not have been on the pavement full stop it’s her fault.

You know the case of Natasha Richardson right? Slipped and had minor fall on a ski slope, declined treatment as she was fine. Died of an epidural haematoma.

You’re quite right the driver may not have even seen the head injury, so the only people who can assess are medics.

You were assessed by A&E is the point.

My point is that if the driver wasn't even aware that the cyclist had hit her head on his car, he wouldn't know that there was a need for medics to do an assessment.

I agree that she should get herself checked out, but the OP, who does know that there is a potential head injury, hasn't expressed any thoughts of getting medical attention for her DD.

@sandyhappypeople
I actually think the people hell bent on assigning blame to the driver while conveniently choosing to ignore the wrongdoing and dangerous behaviour of the cyclist are all the same person with different usernames.. they definitely all have the same agenda.

Good point. It's probably Jeremy Vine, militant cyclist twat that he is 😂

As soon as the bicycle is crossing the road she’s not on the pavement any more.

And the legality of riding on a pavement has no relevance to the accident. If, for the sake of argument, she had ridden on the pavement out into the road where he hit her, he would have been at fault regardless.

As I posted up thread, police are required to approach cases of vulnerable people scared to cycle on the the road, with restraint.

https://www.rac.co.uk/drive/advice/legal/new-highway-code-rules-what-you-need-to-know/ from the RAC

As soon as the bicycle is crossing the road she’s not on the pavement any more.

She hit his car from the pavement, she never 'entered' the road.

And the legality of riding on a pavement has no relevance to the accident.

Yes it does have relevance, because if she wasn't riding on the pavement the accident wouldn't have happened in the first place.

As I posted up thread, police are required to approach cases of vulnerable people scared to cycle on the the road, with restraint.

It doesn't matter if the police approach it with restraint, it is still an offence.

So you can't quote where cars have to give priority to cyclists riding on the pavements then.. didn't think so.

do you not understand hierarchy?

Exactly
Her mother was just asking advice on whether she should pay for the damage as ‘her dd hit a car’.

Think I’d be asking OP why she wasn’t rushing to A& E rather than worrying about the cost of the damage. 🤔 maybe because there is no injury !

Yes it comes after due care

do show me where it state that in the Highway Code