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Sfuandtired · 2024-04-22T20:48:30+00:00

Dd 17 has collided with a car tonight whilst riding her bike, she was crossing the road and from what I can make out didn’t see the car turning, she hit the car with her wheel leaving a dent and was thrown over the handle bars banging her head on the window, the driver got out, asked if she was ok, took her name and phone number, then said he was late for work and drove of! Dd has since had a text saying she will be sent a bill and bank details for the damage to the car! WWYD?

YaMuvva · 23/04/2024 11:19

Stigglet · 23/04/2024 01:33

I’m not encouraging anyone to lie. I’m saying that’s how it works. Two people both say it’s the other person’s fault, clearly one of them must be lying, but the blame gets assigned 50/50 and each person gets half the compensation they would have got.

People do it all the time. Especially if one of them is a cyclist or pedestrian, because they have nothing to lose and everything to gain.

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But how is it relevant to this thread?! The OP hasn’t stated she wants to seek compensation via fraud

umberelladay · 23/04/2024 11:21

WarshipRocinante · 23/04/2024 11:18

Because she literally hit him. It isn’t hard to understand.

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She's 17, not insured and has no money! It really doesn't matter if she is at fault. His claim is going nowhere.
If I was him, I'd just be glad she wasn't dead or injured, fixing a car is easier than fighting a court case or loosing no claims for 5 years.

YaMuvva · 23/04/2024 11:21

Stigglet · 23/04/2024 01:35

It CAN be the driver’s fault, if he was moving and pulled out in front of her when he should have stopped and given way. Clearly it was the cyclist’s fault too. Insurance would probably assign the blame 50/50.

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He didn’t pull out in front of her.

Let’s say he DID see her - what is he supposed to do, safely?

Zoom forward and risk killing a driver? Reverse back and do the same? Evaporate?

Seriously picture yourself at a junction, driving legally and about to turn and some cyclist comes at you from the side of you, about to crash into your car in about half a second. What do you do?

gloriagloria · 23/04/2024 11:23

Was the car still moving toward the end of the road, stationary at the end of the road, or actually already turning round the corner? I think the first would be different from the other two.

sandyhappypeople · 23/04/2024 11:24

ArcticOwl · 23/04/2024 11:10

because he has pulled out of a junction to turn into a road without checking it was safe to do so.

Its the responsibility of a driver when turning out of a junction to check the road and the pavement and that it is safe to proceed, they're the bigger more dangerous vehicle. While the OP's kid is also to blame for not checking it was safe to cross, in insurance terms/legal terms, the OP's child is the more vulnerable road user and therefore the onus of responsibility here is on the driver of the car.

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Ffs.. he has rolled to a stop at a junction and she has come along the pavement a split second later going too fast to stop so hit the side of his car..

there was a hedge on the corner blocking her view so she assumed there was nothing coming and she could go straight across the road, it is blatantly obvious from her hitting the side of the car that he was already at the junction before she got there, the problem is she left it too late/was going too fast to do anything about it.

.. now imagine a toddler coming round that corner or an old person, her riding like that and assuming nothing is there could end up killing someone.

it was a mistake on the daughters part and she shouldn’t have been riding on the pavement, but he was doing nothing wrong and was travelling perfectly normally and legally..

YaMuvva · 23/04/2024 11:24

Louise303 · 23/04/2024 03:32

Hope your daughter is okay no matter who was at fault the driver of the car should had made sure your daughter was okay. He drove away from the scene she could of needed medical treatment also.

He did check she was OK

Why do people think he drove away from the scene?!

Seriously though, if a cyclist crashes into you and you check they’re OK, are you supposed to not get back in your car again??

YaMuvva · 23/04/2024 11:24

fuzzyduck1 · 23/04/2024 04:17

if he was turning into a side road then it’s his fault so get the police involved she hit her head so claim for damages.

She was cycling on the pavement and went into the side of him.

How is that his fault?

noshadowatnoon · 23/04/2024 11:25

ArcticOwl · 23/04/2024 11:10

because he has pulled out of a junction to turn into a road without checking it was safe to do so.

Its the responsibility of a driver when turning out of a junction to check the road and the pavement and that it is safe to proceed, they're the bigger more dangerous vehicle. While the OP's kid is also to blame for not checking it was safe to cross, in insurance terms/legal terms, the OP's child is the more vulnerable road user and therefore the onus of responsibility here is on the driver of the car.

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As a pedestrian crossing that road, no, none of the responsibility is theirs, it is entirely the driver coming out of that road. As a cyclist cycling along that road, again, none of the responsibility is theirs.

What is less clear is that the OPs daughter was cycling on the pavement, which is technically illegal, but as far as I can see, the responsibility is entirely the driver's no one elses, for not checking that noone was travelling along the main road.

Of course, as a pedestrian, you may choose to check no one is driving irresponsibly before you cross, that does not mean it is up to you, it is up to them

He has broken the high way code, and the law

noshadowatnoon · 23/04/2024 11:25

OP, don't engage with him AT ALL. Just pass the details on to the police

BetterLuckTomorrow · 23/04/2024 11:27

Thank goodness your DD is not seriously injured and I hope she feels less shaken up soon, she must have had a real fright. Please tell her not to cycle on the pavement though (unless a dedicated cycle lane on a shared usage pavement) as it’s really not fair to put pedestrians at risk. If she reaches a section of road she can’t cycle on she needs to dismount and walk the bike along the pavement by the handlebars.

From your description it sounds as though your DD was at fault and caused this collision. If that’s the case then morally, yes she should pay. Why wouldn’t she?

YaMuvva · 23/04/2024 11:28

Louise303 · 23/04/2024 04:37

17 year old hit there head on the window who gives a fuck who was in the wrong.If it was your child would you expect them to drive away any normal person would of contacted the police and instead of taking her details they would of asked to contact her parents.

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He didn’t drive away

Thudercatsrule · 23/04/2024 11:31

YaMuvva · 22/04/2024 23:31

🤣🤣🤣

I wish there was a parallel MN where people posted opposite sexes. If this was a 17yo boy who cycled into a lone woman’s car OP would probably be told her son was a sexual predator and that the woman should report him for harrasment

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Love this - because its so true!!

YaMuvva · 23/04/2024 11:32

MinervaMcGonagallsCat · 23/04/2024 05:52

Irrespective of original fault the driver should have called the police and an ambulance especially considering she hit her head.

The driver has a legal duty to report the accident.

Failure to report this accident could carry a sentence of up to 6 months in prison for the driver.

Then you deal with insurance and or claims.

OP you really should call the police

Fucking hell fire no wonder our emergency services are on its knees when people call an ambulance over someone who isn’t injuredZ

Why is it on the driver?! Is that the rules? Whoever wasn’t to blame has to call an ambulance despite no injury having occurred otherwise they go to prison?
Because I really don’t think those are the rules at all

Calliopespa · 23/04/2024 11:32

Louise303 · 23/04/2024 10:40

Anyone that gets a bang to the head should of been seen by a doctor adult or child.

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I’m afraid I see a bang to the head with movement involved as more serious than others seem to think it is. Head injury can appear progressively.

BIossomtoes · 23/04/2024 11:34

HcbSS · 23/04/2024 11:18

Regardless of who was at fault…

the man collided with a child, who while uninjured has suffered bruising to her face, then prioritized getting to work over making sure she was at least with a trusted adult before leaving the scene. He doesn’t deserve another second of your time. Delete and block his number. That is not how claims work anyway.

No, the “child” cycled into the side of the car. The driver didn’t collide with anything.

sashh · 23/04/2024 11:35

ArcticOwl · 23/04/2024 11:10

because he has pulled out of a junction to turn into a road without checking it was safe to do so.

Its the responsibility of a driver when turning out of a junction to check the road and the pavement and that it is safe to proceed, they're the bigger more dangerous vehicle. While the OP's kid is also to blame for not checking it was safe to cross, in insurance terms/legal terms, the OP's child is the more vulnerable road user and therefore the onus of responsibility here is on the driver of the car.

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We have no idea if he pulled out, from what the OP has said and the diagram he may well have been stationary and looking both ways before he turned.

The OP's DD was riding illegally and quite possible dangerously.

Agapornis · 23/04/2024 11:35

Lots of conflicting advice. Contact an appropriate helpline like the Cycling UK Incident Line. They'll give you accurate, up to date advice. You will need to know what the road markings were - go take some photos.

YaMuvva · 23/04/2024 11:36

LynetteScavo · 23/04/2024 06:54

Definitely report to the police and get your DD checked out at hospital.

Something similar happened to my DS when he's just turned 18 (also not NT so had a horrible experience dealing with the very angry driver) We informed police and DH paid for the damage so DS didn't have any further stress, and as DH said "it's the right thing to do".

If someone rode into the side of your car, would you want their parents to pay for the damage?

Yes. Of course I would.

YaMuvva · 23/04/2024 11:38

Mistredd · 23/04/2024 07:31

In our area all the cycle paths are part of the oavement. You are jumping to a lot of conclusions.

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Yes but if you look at the Mm they either taper off before a junction or have give way signs. Cyclists still have to slow down on a shared cycle path if they are approaching a junction! Largely for the safety of pedestrians. You can’t just zip by and say “well it’s a cycle path!”

Vaccances · 23/04/2024 11:40

YaMuvva · 23/04/2024 11:32

Fucking hell fire no wonder our emergency services are on its knees when people call an ambulance over someone who isn’t injuredZ

Why is it on the driver?! Is that the rules? Whoever wasn’t to blame has to call an ambulance despite no injury having occurred otherwise they go to prison?
Because I really don’t think those are the rules at all

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Nope advice with any head injury is to seek medical advice, the driver should have reported, just to protect himself if the cyclist had then suffered a bleed etc.

If a cyclist rode into me and wacked their head, i'd call 111 at the very least & let them make that decision.

YaMuvva · 23/04/2024 11:40

user1492757084 · 23/04/2024 07:45

The driver met his legal obligations of stopping to assist and ask about your daughter, whose fault it was. Exchanging names numbers etc is also the correct thing. The man has not behaved badly.
How to proceed. I would ask the driver to obtain two quotes and, depending on how expensive the repair is, the driver may ask your daughter to pay the repair bill or go through his insurance.
If I were your daughter I would hope the repairs are under a couple of thousand and I would happily pay. Obtain a signed receipt that the driver has asked for repairs and that you have paid them.
Thankfully your daughter has no injuries, which negates the necessity to contact the Police.

Good advice.
Id also be inclined if I were the OP to recommend your own repair shop.
Id also maybe have a cheeky stab at asking to split the costs if I was very very skint

YaMuvva · 23/04/2024 11:41

mitogoshi · 23/04/2024 07:54

He should have stopped so she's not at fault

How so? She was on the pavement coming at him at speed and he was at a junction seemingly waiting to turn or in the process of turning. How would him stopping help?

taxguru · 23/04/2024 11:42

ArcticOwl · 23/04/2024 10:51

Block him and report the incident to the police, he committed a crime by not reporting it at the time, and leaving the scene of an accident.

DD needs to be seen by a Dr.

I don't understand why you're dithering.

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No he didn't!

rwalker · 23/04/2024 11:42

jessycake · 23/04/2024 10:38

Reguardless of fault it should be reported to the police, and you need to see the damage and estimates before paying any money if it doesnt go through insurance and you agree to pay .

No obligation to report both left the scene and if she said she was ok that’s a reasonable assumption she’s not injured hence no need to report

YaMuvva · 23/04/2024 11:42

allthemiddlechildrenoftheworld · 23/04/2024 07:58

@Sfuandtired actually, law change, cyclists and pedestrians have right of way over cars therefore accident is the car drivers fault

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Not if they’re on the pavement and cycling illegally and not looking they dont.