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Dd hit car whilst riding her bike

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Sfuandtired · 22/04/2024 21:48

Dd 17 has collided with a car tonight whilst riding her bike, she was crossing the road and from what I can make out didn’t see the car turning, she hit the car with her wheel leaving a dent and was thrown over the handle bars banging her head on the window, the driver got out, asked if she was ok, took her name and phone number, then said he was late for work and drove of!
Dd has since had a text saying she will be sent a bill and bank details for the damage to the car! WWYD?

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FunkyMonks · 23/04/2024 10:45

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ohdelay · 23/04/2024 10:47

loopylou3030 · 23/04/2024 09:51

Why can't people just take responsibility for their actions? Your daughter was riding illegally and recklessly and caused an accident, resulting in damage to somebody else's property. He was perfectly reasonable, checked she was ok before swapping details, rather than losing his temper and having a go at her for being so stupid. He was minding his own business going to work when your daughter stupidly cause an accident. Just be grateful she has a chance to learn a lesson and was not seriously hurt or worse. We dont do our children any favours by looking at ways to devoid them of responsibility. It's a good life lesson to pay for the damage and accept her mistake. As a parent I would be messaging the guy to discuss, apologise on my child's behalf and offer to pay for the damage which she could then pay me back for. No wonder most people have no sense of responsibility these days and such entitlement with some of the replies on here. 😫

This. The number of grifters and weasels trying to somehow make this the driver's fault are astounding. No wonder the world is so full of rage.

BIossomtoes · 23/04/2024 10:49

andfinallyhereweare · 23/04/2024 10:34

Sounds like your daughter was hit by the car not the other way round

You’re wrong. Look at OP’s diagram and read her words.

Iliketulips · 23/04/2024 10:50

Firstly, I hope your DD is ok. That is the most important thing over any money dispute.

Having said that you said she hit the car - sadly if she's the one that's negligent it'd be fair to offer to pay. Might be worth checking with your public liability insurance. Also, the driver of the car, would need her details in case she refuses to pay and wants to claim on his own insurance.

ArcticOwl · 23/04/2024 10:51

Sfuandtired · 22/04/2024 22:26

Dd was on the pavement, crossing over to the other side of the road, she said that there was quite a large hedge so they possibly both didn’t see the other, do you think I should make contact with the driver or block him?

Block him and report the incident to the police, he committed a crime by not reporting it at the time, and leaving the scene of an accident.

DD needs to be seen by a Dr.

I don't understand why you're dithering.

YaMuvva · 23/04/2024 10:52

Stigglet · 23/04/2024 01:27

They aren’t going to pursue a minor for the cost of a dinted car. Even if it went to court and she admitted fault, the court still probably wouldn’t order compensation.

They generally only order compensation if the minor has their own assets (ie they can pay), or the minor’s parents have insurance (ie the insurance can pay), or if the minor is expected to earn a decent amount within the next six years (so will be able to pay). They might order a nominal sum, and it really doesn’t help anyone to receive compensation of maybe just £50 after the hassle of a whole court case.

If the dint required an expansive new panel they would pursue it. Someone crashed into the side of me a few years ago and I need a new side panel it was over £1,000!

sandyhappypeople · 23/04/2024 10:54

andfinallyhereweare · 23/04/2024 10:34

Sounds like your daughter was hit by the car not the other way round

Do you think the car turned into a crab?

ArcticOwl · 23/04/2024 10:56

taxguru · 23/04/2024 10:37

No they're not. There's no requirement to report to police if details are exchanged at the time, even for minor injury accidents.

Official advice is that only serious injury and serious damage accidents should be reported to the police.

Road collisions and incidents | Police.uk (www.police.uk)

"You must report the collision to the police if you were unable to exchange details at the scene, if anyone was injured, or if you suspect that the other person may have committed a driving offence. "

Accepting a childs insistence they're ok when they went over the handlebars and hit your window isn't 'no-one was injured'

Bournetilly · 23/04/2024 10:57

Louise303 · 23/04/2024 10:40

Anyone that gets a bang to the head should of been seen by a doctor adult or child.

I don’t agree with this but even so why would a stranger arrange for a 17 year old to be seen by a doctor. The man whose car she hit didn’t need to sort this out.

Zebedee999 · 23/04/2024 10:58

loopylou3030 · 23/04/2024 09:51

Why can't people just take responsibility for their actions? Your daughter was riding illegally and recklessly and caused an accident, resulting in damage to somebody else's property. He was perfectly reasonable, checked she was ok before swapping details, rather than losing his temper and having a go at her for being so stupid. He was minding his own business going to work when your daughter stupidly cause an accident. Just be grateful she has a chance to learn a lesson and was not seriously hurt or worse. We dont do our children any favours by looking at ways to devoid them of responsibility. It's a good life lesson to pay for the damage and accept her mistake. As a parent I would be messaging the guy to discuss, apologise on my child's behalf and offer to pay for the damage which she could then pay me back for. No wonder most people have no sense of responsibility these days and such entitlement with some of the replies on here. 😫

Spot on. And being mumsnet I'm surprised no one has yet to blame the government for not providing free stuff like helmets to all cyclists or some such.

Hope OP does the right thing and pays the bill AND apologises.

WarshipRocinante · 23/04/2024 10:59

ArcticOwl · 23/04/2024 10:56

Road collisions and incidents | Police.uk (www.police.uk)

"You must report the collision to the police if you were unable to exchange details at the scene, if anyone was injured, or if you suspect that the other person may have committed a driving offence. "

Accepting a childs insistence they're ok when they went over the handlebars and hit your window isn't 'no-one was injured'

I doubt she actually went over the handlebars in the way that sentence usually describes. It sounds more like she went “splat” against the car, her front wheel hitting the passenger door, and then herself splatting against it. She didn’t break the window or anything so I doubt she actually flipped up over the handlebars and her full body tumbled against the car. More like, she was sent forward a little and pancaked against the car whilst still having her legs on her bike.

umberelladay · 23/04/2024 10:59

MY mum had someone ride into the side of her car (not mums fault) My friend collided with a cyclist, it was dark, no lights or reflectives. (questionable who was at fault.)

Both called the police/ contacted insurance both told it is not the cyclists fault. Basically the cyclist is right.

I'd just block him or message back "I'm. a minor, no inssurance, ask your insurance to contact me."

noshadowatnoon · 23/04/2024 11:00

Sfuandtired · 22/04/2024 22:26

Dd was on the pavement, crossing over to the other side of the road, she said that there was quite a large hedge so they possibly both didn’t see the other, do you think I should make contact with the driver or block him?

neither, take his number down and give it to the police when you report the accident

ArcticOwl · 23/04/2024 11:01

WarshipRocinante · 23/04/2024 10:59

I doubt she actually went over the handlebars in the way that sentence usually describes. It sounds more like she went “splat” against the car, her front wheel hitting the passenger door, and then herself splatting against it. She didn’t break the window or anything so I doubt she actually flipped up over the handlebars and her full body tumbled against the car. More like, she was sent forward a little and pancaked against the car whilst still having her legs on her bike.

It can still cause injury.

I've witnessed a young teen get concussion after misjudging a car braking at a crossing and piling into the back of it and doing just what you described.

CurlewKate · 23/04/2024 11:04

I don't understand why everyone is saying the driver should have to fix his car when it clearly wasn't his fault....

notacooldad · 23/04/2024 11:10

Wide?
I would have taken dd to hospital for check over.
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When the person text I would ha e thanked fir texting and tell him I need his reg umber as we are oolong at claiming on our insurance and we also need it to report the incident to the police.
I would stand back and see what happens next.

ArcticOwl · 23/04/2024 11:10

CurlewKate · 23/04/2024 11:04

I don't understand why everyone is saying the driver should have to fix his car when it clearly wasn't his fault....

because he has pulled out of a junction to turn into a road without checking it was safe to do so.

Its the responsibility of a driver when turning out of a junction to check the road and the pavement and that it is safe to proceed, they're the bigger more dangerous vehicle. While the OP's kid is also to blame for not checking it was safe to cross, in insurance terms/legal terms, the OP's child is the more vulnerable road user and therefore the onus of responsibility here is on the driver of the car.

gloriagloria · 23/04/2024 11:13

ArcticOwl · 23/04/2024 11:10

because he has pulled out of a junction to turn into a road without checking it was safe to do so.

Its the responsibility of a driver when turning out of a junction to check the road and the pavement and that it is safe to proceed, they're the bigger more dangerous vehicle. While the OP's kid is also to blame for not checking it was safe to cross, in insurance terms/legal terms, the OP's child is the more vulnerable road user and therefore the onus of responsibility here is on the driver of the car.

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But she cycling on the pavement, so presumably travelling much faster than a "normal" pedestrian and due to the hedge more difficult to see than someone in the road. I'm from a family of cyclists but really don't see how it's the drivers fault? He was also probably quite shocked to be honest, so maybe should have contacted someone on her behalf, but realistically we don't all do the right thing at the right time when under stress.

BIossomtoes · 23/04/2024 11:15

ArcticOwl · 23/04/2024 11:10

because he has pulled out of a junction to turn into a road without checking it was safe to do so.

Its the responsibility of a driver when turning out of a junction to check the road and the pavement and that it is safe to proceed, they're the bigger more dangerous vehicle. While the OP's kid is also to blame for not checking it was safe to cross, in insurance terms/legal terms, the OP's child is the more vulnerable road user and therefore the onus of responsibility here is on the driver of the car.

Edited

All of which is entirely immaterial even if true (it’s not) because she hit the side of the car.

ArcticOwl · 23/04/2024 11:15

gloriagloria · 23/04/2024 11:13

But she cycling on the pavement, so presumably travelling much faster than a "normal" pedestrian and due to the hedge more difficult to see than someone in the road. I'm from a family of cyclists but really don't see how it's the drivers fault? He was also probably quite shocked to be honest, so maybe should have contacted someone on her behalf, but realistically we don't all do the right thing at the right time when under stress.

would you say the same had it been a child running into the road?

JosiePosey · 23/04/2024 11:16

Sfuandtired · 22/04/2024 22:26

Dd was on the pavement, crossing over to the other side of the road, she said that there was quite a large hedge so they possibly both didn’t see the other, do you think I should make contact with the driver or block him?

Not rtft, but why is this she hit him, not he hit her with his car? He's in the bigger vehicle that can do more damage.

WarshipRocinante · 23/04/2024 11:18

ArcticOwl · 23/04/2024 11:15

would you say the same had it been a child running into the road?

A child wouldn’t have been able to go at that speed to get out from behind the hedge and over to the other side of the road before the car had cleared it. And yes, when children sprint out, drivers aren’t always found to be at fault. Sometimes it is the child’s (well, the parent who let them run off) fault.

gloriagloria · 23/04/2024 11:18

ArcticOwl · 23/04/2024 11:15

would you say the same had it been a child running into the road?

But in this scenario the child would have run into the side of the car not been knocked over - so probably yes if the driver couldn't see them.

WarshipRocinante · 23/04/2024 11:18

JosiePosey · 23/04/2024 11:16

Not rtft, but why is this she hit him, not he hit her with his car? He's in the bigger vehicle that can do more damage.

Because she literally hit him. It isn’t hard to understand.

HcbSS · 23/04/2024 11:18

Regardless of who was at fault…

the man collided with a child, who while uninjured has suffered bruising to her face, then prioritized getting to work over making sure she was at least with a trusted adult before leaving the scene. He doesn’t deserve another second of your time. Delete and block his number. That is not how claims work anyway.

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