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Very weird social situation at work

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96thstreet · 20/04/2024 19:03

I thought long and hard about posting this because it could be a bit outing but I really want to tell someone about it and kind of check the way I feel ? Hopefully it’s vague enough I have plausible deniability

I started a new role within the last 6 months. A really lovely department around 70 people made up of smaller teams of 20 odd people. I’m really happy with my team (semi-senior), the people have all been very welcoming. There is quite a social element to the team - a monthly day out (during work hours so mandatory but everyone keen to go) plus other socials, smaller dinner parties, break off groups going out, a big picnic once a year. Sorry just trying to set the scene.

Within our team there are two people who are in a couple, “Jenny and Tom”. Both in their early fifties, Jenny particularly has been really welcoming, Tom is quiet but helped me with a project when I first started. Both just normal, nice people.

Around a month ago we were on our team day out and one of the big managers came and sat with me during a break in the activity. He asked me how I’m getting on, if I’m settled in, how I’m finding the team. I said yes all lovely and mentioned Tom and Jenny. He got a kind of weird look on his face and said yes they’re really nice, glad they’ve made you feel welcome and sort of ended the conversation quickly and moved on. Slightly odd but ok. Later on that day Tom and Jenny were dancing together with some other people and I said to one of the other people sat with me that they made a nice couple.

She asked me if I “knew about them” and I said what do you mean? She said well has anyone told you about them? Again I was non-plussed. She then divulged that Tom is in fact married to someone else and has been in a relationship with Jenny for over 10 years. Widely, publicly known. He has a whole family 2 hrs away where he lives 3 days a week and a house here which he keeps for work.

She could obviously tell I was shocked and quickly just kind of said well they’ve been here since most of us started, it’s always been like that, it’s just a kind of open secret. I asked if his wife knows and she said no not as far as she knew and the times his wife had come to the yearly socials Jenny and Tom don’t interact.

Im so weirded out by this, they are like the most normal people you wouldn’t look twice at. But more weirded out that everyone just seems to accept it as none of their business (which I suppose it isn’t), his wife presumably/maybe doesn’t have any idea and that the whole team just kind of keep it a secret for them?

OP posts:
96thstreet · 20/04/2024 19:05

I don’t really know what I want you to say. I have no plans to tell his wife or do anything about it. It’s just really weird isn’t it?

OP posts:
ivs · 20/04/2024 19:05

Not your business, that's all.

patchworkpal · 20/04/2024 19:07

They're just work colleagues. It's nothing to do with you. You all just have to put up with each other day in day out. Maybe stop being so social there's no need for it

clearmoon · 20/04/2024 19:07

nothing to do with you. Not particularly unusual, I don't think. Just leave it

blueandwhitesquares · 20/04/2024 19:09

Hmm

Mouldyfoot · 20/04/2024 19:09

Yikes

cerisepanther73 · 20/04/2024 19:10

@96thstreet

I agree it's quite weird to say how 🤔 this relationship presents itself in that his married to someone else,
However in a alternative obviously long term relationship,
in parallel,

It could be his in an sort of an "Open Relationship of sorts",

W0rkerBee · 20/04/2024 19:12

Geez, they were baiting you for a REACTION to what is now, to them, old gossip.

Work really hard on having very little visible reaction to this.

You dont know his wife, so just view him as a colleague. He is a colleague. You just happen to know about his affair.

If you were to get morally charged up over this, other people could feed off your reaction, or drag you into a "do you know what the new woman said about you, after you helping her so much too".

Total triangulation. Refuse to be in this triangle.

MummyDummyNow · 20/04/2024 19:12

As others have said it isn't any of your business but yes it's totally weird and it would fascinate me and make me think differently about them to be honest.

It would be different if the wife knew, open relationship/polyamorous relationship type situation but doesn't sound like it is.

The only thing you can do is nothing but understand your discomfort in this.

Fourmagpies · 20/04/2024 19:14

I used to work with a couple over 25 years ago like this. There was a small team that had been part of a company that merged with the company I worked for and they'd been put up in rented accommodation during the week as it was a couple of hours from where they lived. R & H were both married, spouses back at home, H had kids too. It was an open secret that they were a couple. It was just accepted.

AnotherCountryMummy · 20/04/2024 19:14

I dont think you should let it change the way you interact with them if you otherwise get along and think they are nice people. Who knows, maybe he has an open relationship or an agreement with his wife etc.

Louoby · 20/04/2024 19:15

See I'm of the opinion that the wife needs to and should know. I wouldn't want someone keeping this from me. Yes it will probably ruin their family, but he's doing a good job of doing that himself surely? She's just as bad knowing he's married too. They deserve no discretion.

FollowTheFuckingInstructions · 20/04/2024 19:17

I had similar but only one couple at work. I was polite and friendly but I'd be lying if I said I didn't judge. I also wouldn't have trusted her with anything important.

MintyCedric · 20/04/2024 19:18

None of your business and I agree that it best to try not to show any visible reaction or get involved in gossip about it.

I wouldn’t be in the least surprised to find out that the wife is well aware and it works in some way for both of them provided she doesn’t have her nose in at events when she’s there.

People are weird, that’s life.

cerisepanther73 · 20/04/2024 19:18

@96thstreet

However some people do live and have unconventional lives from the norm,

I have to be honest let's face posters on here some will be or are OK Cool about this relantship arrangement,
along as it doesn't affect them in any such as being a friend being involved in a senerio situation like this as the wife,

"Everyone's Cool 😎 wife aslong as it isn't too personal close to him"
Such as a friend or a family member or it 🤔 could affect them in a adverse negative way in some way.

96thstreet · 20/04/2024 19:20

Wow - surprised it seems so common

Yes absolutely not going to show any reaction at all or make any public show of surprise

Not something I have ever come across before I have to say

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fatphalange · 20/04/2024 19:20

Are they trying to see if you'll shit stir or something? I'd be like 🤷‍♀️ 'ok....why are you telling me' :/

BlastedPimples · 20/04/2024 19:22

Don't react.

Don't say anything.

Don't do anything.

Stay out of it.

ThroughThickAndThin01 · 20/04/2024 19:30

Oof how bloody uncomfortable for everyone. Makes you question everyone you know.

You have no option but to accept it, but bloody hell, how awful. I had no idea this was so common.

MyLovelyPurse · 20/04/2024 19:43

When I read the OP I was really surprised and keen to react, as I had a very similar situation at work years ago. I’m now even more surprised to read the other posts on this thread and find out that it’s not that rare.

In my case, the man was my boss. He had children both with his wife and with the woman at work. He travelled between the two families. Type wife didn’t know. I shared an office with him and often heard him calling his wife to tell her why he hadn’t come home the night before (train cancelled, had to stay with a friend etc). I have no idea why the wife didn’t seem to have worked it out. I did sometimes find it amusing that both women would ask him eg. to bring shopping home, that the boiler needed fixing or that he was expected at a school play. He must have been exhausted.

maddiemookins16mum · 20/04/2024 21:48

I worked in this scenario, it was an open secret that the finance manager Robert was having it off with Christine in Accounts and they even went on holiday together. Meanwhile the wife thought he was away with his golf buddies.

margegunderson · 20/04/2024 22:09

Sitch like this in my workplace over 20 years ago. They ended up together and as far as I know still very happy. Woman was married, man single.

Sureaseggs44 · 20/04/2024 22:12

96thstreet · 20/04/2024 19:20

Wow - surprised it seems so common

Yes absolutely not going to show any reaction at all or make any public show of surprise

Not something I have ever come across before I have to say

A friend of mine found herself in a similar situation in that her father had a set up like this but also had children . He kept his second family secret for years . I have got to say she was devastated. It was extremely hurtful and she felt betrayed and also felt she never truly knew her father . It had huge repercussions. Sad.

Tel12 · 20/04/2024 22:20

Didn't Charles Dickens leave his young mistress with a broken arm after a train crash for fear of being recognised? Story as old as time.

InTheShallowTheShalalalalalalalow · 20/04/2024 22:24

I worked with a guy who had 2 families like this, he had 2 kids with one woman, three with another, he worked 2 jobs and was permanently exhausted, I don't know how he did it.

He was about 8 years in when he got caught, and it all kicked off at work. The first family knew nothing about the second, the second knew about the first, and they all lived within 10 miles of each other.

I really don't think it's an uncommon situation.

I would honestly just keep my nose out, not mention anything at all, and pretend I didn't know.

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