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How’s this for a whole new level of cheeky fuckery - someone has token our allotment!

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YaMuvva · 11/04/2024 12:00

Moved into our new house in January. Bought off a lovely lady who was a widow and something of a popular figure in the street (relevant).

We were pleasantly surprised to find that in the deeds it came with a garage across the road (which we’d seen at the viewing but it wasn’t clear it belonged to the house) and an allotment plot. We’ve actually been on an allotment waiting list for years so it was nice news.

We’ve already had aggro with the garage - when we got the keys we went to open it and found that it was rammed full of full boxes! I called previous owner directly as she gave us her number (as assumed they were hers) and she said she allowed our next door neighbour for years to use it. He was most put out when we told him to clear his stuff as we needed to use it. This was 3 months ago, and only last week did he finally clear it out, and only did so when we had to get shitty with him and say if he didn’t clear the garage we would do it for him (don’t want to get off an a bad foot with the neighbours but he was taking the piss).

Anyway we have never checked out the allotment before now (it’s not far about a 10 min walk from here) just because of time constraints and illnesses and crappy weather but decided to finally today go and find it as the sun is shining here.

Anyway, when we got there we looked on the sheet of paper we’d been given and found the plot - and a person sitting next to a full and lush patch sitting on a chair having a cuppa! There is also a shed full of tools coffee cups newspapers etc in it too . We asked the person if we’d got it wrong as we are new owners of number 8 on X Street and thought this was our new allotment.

Apparently she is our neighbour down the road (never yet met her) and yes whilst it is the allotment belonging to number 8, the previous owner (a “very dear friend” of hers apparently) let her use it, she’s been using it for 10 years.

My DH, still stinging from the garage debacle, said well I’m afraid your very dear friend doesn’t live in no 8 any more we do and we are reclaiming the allotment, thank you for looking after it but it is OURS to enjoy.

She bloody said no! And that she’s cultivated this patch for several years, she grows all her veggies here and it’s her sanctuary so if we want it we will ‘have to fight for it’! She also said she paid for the shed.

DH said that’s fine, expect a fight then, and we shuffled away in shock. I then rang the old owner and she said “Oh yes it’s Barbara’s plot really she was good to take it off my hands and it would be awful to take it off her”. To be clear - the plot has NOT been sold to Barbara.

I just can’t believe the piss takery of this. DH thinks we should just go and take down the shed, leave it at her front door and dig up everything and chuck it all in a bin.

I feel like the neighbours just took the piss out of the old owner and think they genuinely have a claim to the stuff she was kind enough to let them borrow.

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Theimpossiblegirl · 11/04/2024 23:28

BrownTroutBlues · 11/04/2024 23:15

Any one going to divulge this and help us out here.
pleeeeeeese

We can’t find the edit button please help……………..anyone!

No edit button on the app.

YaMuvva · 11/04/2024 23:29

Mamanyt · 11/04/2024 23:12

So, WHERE IS IT????

3 little dots in the top right of the post. Click it and it brings up options including the ability to edit

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TheHateIsNotGood · 11/04/2024 23:31

Ok then, you colonialist, land-owning, Barbara-haters, turf her out on her arse and pull up and chuck out all her plants, pull down the shed and steal all her tools. Why not give her a beating while you're at it, seeing as she's oldish, how very dare she?, the old boomer bag.

And in 2 years look at the measly bunch of scrub poking out of your barren wasteland.

There are some laws relating to allotments, 10 years and compensation I believe. Barbara might know more about those too.

YaMuvva · 11/04/2024 23:34

SlurpSlooChortle · 11/04/2024 23:26

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

I won’t sleep tonight now

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YaMuvva · 11/04/2024 23:35

TheHateIsNotGood · 11/04/2024 23:31

Ok then, you colonialist, land-owning, Barbara-haters, turf her out on her arse and pull up and chuck out all her plants, pull down the shed and steal all her tools. Why not give her a beating while you're at it, seeing as she's oldish, how very dare she?, the old boomer bag.

And in 2 years look at the measly bunch of scrub poking out of your barren wasteland.

There are some laws relating to allotments, 10 years and compensation I believe. Barbara might know more about those too.

It’s not an allotment

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godmum56 · 11/04/2024 23:35

TheHateIsNotGood · 11/04/2024 23:31

Ok then, you colonialist, land-owning, Barbara-haters, turf her out on her arse and pull up and chuck out all her plants, pull down the shed and steal all her tools. Why not give her a beating while you're at it, seeing as she's oldish, how very dare she?, the old boomer bag.

And in 2 years look at the measly bunch of scrub poking out of your barren wasteland.

There are some laws relating to allotments, 10 years and compensation I believe. Barbara might know more about those too.

Its not an allotment.

PamPamPamPam · 11/04/2024 23:36

TheHateIsNotGood · 11/04/2024 23:31

Ok then, you colonialist, land-owning, Barbara-haters, turf her out on her arse and pull up and chuck out all her plants, pull down the shed and steal all her tools. Why not give her a beating while you're at it, seeing as she's oldish, how very dare she?, the old boomer bag.

And in 2 years look at the measly bunch of scrub poking out of your barren wasteland.

There are some laws relating to allotments, 10 years and compensation I believe. Barbara might know more about those too.

Are you feeling okay?

0sm0nthus · 11/04/2024 23:36

Barbera feels that because she is older, has been there longer and has invested time & effort into the asset in question, because of all that she outranks the OP and should be obeyed.
(And if that doesn't work she will use the same grounds to evoke pity with which to get what she wants)

godmum56 · 11/04/2024 23:38

TheHateIsNotGood · 11/04/2024 23:13

What about 'sharing' the plot with Barbara? You own it, etc but you can both share the upkeep and pleasure of any spoils/produce that comes with it.

Whilst I very much appreciate the benefits of gardening on well-being, particularly for your DH, an allotment does require a lot of effort and seems that Barbara knows quite a lot about it if she has a produced a "lush" allotment after the past 18 months of crap weather replete with a shed, tools and even tea.

A lot of people under any circumstances would have been checking their allotment out within days of moving in if they were any sort of keen gardeners, rather than waiting months to even have a look.

Its not an allotment. And why would the OP share with someone who has been rude to her?

Redpaisley · 11/04/2024 23:39

YaMuvva · 11/04/2024 12:38

It was. We found out during the conveyancing process, as I said in the OP. We just didn’t know upon viewing the property

But you made offer on the house, you were lucky that you got ownership of garage and allotment with house during conveyancing process. So even though it is mentioned in the deed, it's not that you got less than what you bargained for. So not sure why you are this angry and feeling hard done by. ou can come up with some sort of compromise with the neighbours regarding allotment or check with council. But sueing previous owner as suggested by some posters is not right in my view.

Infectiousdisease · 11/04/2024 23:40

TheHateIsNotGood · 11/04/2024 23:31

Ok then, you colonialist, land-owning, Barbara-haters, turf her out on her arse and pull up and chuck out all her plants, pull down the shed and steal all her tools. Why not give her a beating while you're at it, seeing as she's oldish, how very dare she?, the old boomer bag.

And in 2 years look at the measly bunch of scrub poking out of your barren wasteland.

There are some laws relating to allotments, 10 years and compensation I believe. Barbara might know more about those too.

You might want to read some of the previous 34 pages lovey

Mossstitch · 11/04/2024 23:40

YaMuvva · 11/04/2024 23:25

We did know before we completed the sale!

and I didn’t need to look in the garage. it’s a garage it’s not like I’d open it and find a Tardis inside

Ive never bought a house and asked the seller how they are going to move their stuff out

It's the responsibility of the seller to ensure vacant possession not the buyer! In fact legally they could be in trouble as they would have signed a legal document to say as much. I'd be sending them a bill for the legal ramifications and a bill to the neighbour for renting the garage! .......I'd also be setting up my deckchair on that allotment and taking a picnic on every sunny day........I rented an allotment years ago and can vouch for the therapeutic benefits for @YaMuvva 's husband. 🍅🥕🍒💐

YaMuvva · 11/04/2024 23:42

Redpaisley · 11/04/2024 23:39

But you made offer on the house, you were lucky that you got ownership of garage and allotment with house during conveyancing process. So even though it is mentioned in the deed, it's not that you got less than what you bargained for. So not sure why you are this angry and feeling hard done by. ou can come up with some sort of compromise with the neighbours regarding allotment or check with council. But sueing previous owner as suggested by some posters is not right in my view.

It’s not the point that we weren’t expecting it. It’s ours.

One thing I was worried about throughout garage-gate was what if the garage was full of drugs or stolen goods - even though it would be easy to prove it wasn’t us I could REALLY do without the aggro. Same goes for the allotment. If you give property away you risk someone misusing it and YOU have the pay the consequences

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AcrossthePond55 · 11/04/2024 23:43

@YaMuvva

This is actually beginning to remind me of the batshit thread about an inherited house (in poor condition) with elderly tenant in place where the OP was told (by more than just a few) that it was terrible that she wanted to evict the tenant, that she should really give the house to the tenant 'because she'd lived there such a long time'. Not only that, but she should fix the house up first.

Crazy.

Liz2022 · 11/04/2024 23:43

I'm an allotment tenant and I have not heard of this arrangement before. It is my understanding that the plot is owned by the local authority to which the tenant pays rent. Was the previous owner being truthful with you I wonder?

YaMuvva · 11/04/2024 23:44

AcrossthePond55 · 11/04/2024 23:43

@YaMuvva

This is actually beginning to remind me of the batshit thread about an inherited house (in poor condition) with elderly tenant in place where the OP was told (by more than just a few) that it was terrible that she wanted to evict the tenant, that she should really give the house to the tenant 'because she'd lived there such a long time'. Not only that, but she should fix the house up first.

Crazy.

Whenever I feel down I think about the batshittery of that thread. One particularly vociferous poster said to the OP “Give her the house! You won’t though will you?” As if keeping her own property was so unreasonable 😂

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YaMuvva · 11/04/2024 23:45

Liz2022 · 11/04/2024 23:43

I'm an allotment tenant and I have not heard of this arrangement before. It is my understanding that the plot is owned by the local authority to which the tenant pays rent. Was the previous owner being truthful with you I wonder?

<Sigh>

Cancel the cheque

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FartingAgainstThunder · 11/04/2024 23:47

How in the actual fuck are people taking Barbara's side in this?

Fuck Barbara and her carrots.

TheHateIsNotGood · 11/04/2024 23:47

I'm fine thanks for asking. Just injecting a bit of 'The Other Side' into the convo.

So, it's not an allotment, but a patch of land surrounded by other patches of land, all owned by various people. Barbara could be really helpful and has probably been waiting for the day when you'd finally get round to visiting your patch.

You finally made it after several months and I have little doubt she saw you coming, hence she was sitting relaxed with a cup of tea when you arrived.

Happy gardening land-lubbers.

Barbaraaaa · 11/04/2024 23:47

Does this mean I have to take my clothes out of your wardrobe too? I've kept them there for years now 😢

Infectiousdisease · 11/04/2024 23:48

Liz2022 · 11/04/2024 23:43

I'm an allotment tenant and I have not heard of this arrangement before. It is my understanding that the plot is owned by the local authority to which the tenant pays rent. Was the previous owner being truthful with you I wonder?

Jesus, RTFT

hornsofahugedilemma · 11/04/2024 23:49

Lawyer up. Barbara needs the hard word.

Infectiousdisease · 11/04/2024 23:50

TheHateIsNotGood · 11/04/2024 23:47

I'm fine thanks for asking. Just injecting a bit of 'The Other Side' into the convo.

So, it's not an allotment, but a patch of land surrounded by other patches of land, all owned by various people. Barbara could be really helpful and has probably been waiting for the day when you'd finally get round to visiting your patch.

You finally made it after several months and I have little doubt she saw you coming, hence she was sitting relaxed with a cup of tea when you arrived.

Happy gardening land-lubbers.

It's the OP's land! She can go there whenever the feck she likes! Have you not read the parts where she described what her DH has been through?

godmum56 · 11/04/2024 23:51

Liz2022 · 11/04/2024 23:43

I'm an allotment tenant and I have not heard of this arrangement before. It is my understanding that the plot is owned by the local authority to which the tenant pays rent. Was the previous owner being truthful with you I wonder?

Its not an allotment. Its a piece of land not adjacent to the house.

TargetPractice11 · 11/04/2024 23:51

There's a lot of ground in between immediately kicking her off versus gifting her the property.

I don't see why her drinking tea next to a vegetable garden should enrage you. If you think about it rationally.

Also I think your solicitor has a cheek asking to be paid so much for a common sense letter that they themselves said they don't have expertise in.

I'd apologise to Barbara for being arsey with her. She appears to think she had permission/had been gifted this land a long time ago. She wasn't doing anything wrong. And better someone tend to it than it go to ruin. If she hadn't been caring for it, one of the other allotment owners might have and then you would have a genuine adverse possession claim and would lose it entirely.

Give Barbara an apology. Explain there has been a misunderstanding. Send her the deeds showing ownership and then give her a reasonable amount of time to remove her things. I'd give her until the end of the season so she hasn't wasted her time and money on the veg. Offer to pay her for the shed.

There's no need to be a dick about any of it.

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