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DS can't find a job. What about the gap now?

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Candleab · 27/03/2024 11:40

DS is 19. Had a very bad time mental health wise, all managed at home as GP was useless and he's a bloke so wouldn't engage (private therapy)
Our family suffered a very stressful time whilst he was at college, a really bad event.

He left college at the end of his first year with no As levels.

He got a job which he enjoyed for a while but the environment wasn't great and so he lined up another job through a friend and handed his notice in.

The job fell through.

This was in November of last year.

He's been applying but just got nowhere.

Just retail jobs, customer service etc... But the previous job wa sin a completely different field so he has no retail experience.

It's been months now and I'm on disability benefits and I didn't want him to be in benefits so I've just been funding him out of my money but turns out I've been paying extra rent every month because he's a non dependant and was still down as working. My rents gone up.

I don't know what to do, he has been applying. I've sat with him many times whilst he sends off applications but nothing. Not even an interview.

He has no friends. He doesn't leave the house.

I'm just so worried and now there's a big gap in his employment too on his limited CV.

I'm scared his mental health is going down hill again.

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Illpickthatup · 27/03/2024 13:34

We have Routes to work in my area that can help with CVs, interview techniques and finding jobs. I've just googled and there's a similar scheme in Manchester called One Manchester who do employment and skills support sessions and can help with CV writing, filling out applications, training programs etc.

EnragedHobbyist · 27/03/2024 13:55

He’d be snapped up in my area if he wanted childcare work of any sort

Balloonhearts · 27/03/2024 13:59

He needs his CV looked at. There's no way a 19 year old who WANTS to work would have had no interest at all in 5 months. He's either not actually applying or something is putting them off and it won't be a gap of a few months.

You don't need an expert. Check the basics. Spelling, grammar, what is he putting down as interests? Does he come across on paper as confident, friendly, someone employers will want to meet? I'm happy to look it over if you want, just black out the name, contact and school info.

Octavia64 · 27/03/2024 14:02

I have just applied for ESA.

Claim started 4th March, work coach interview a couple of weeks ago.

A previous PP said it was a legacy benefit only but it seems to be open to at least my claim?

Xylophonics · 27/03/2024 14:03

Candleab · 27/03/2024 11:48

I don't want him to go on UC but would they help him find a job? Would they be able to help him get some retail experience? Or experience on something to get his foot in the door?

Yes the UC ppl should be able to help him gwt his cv together etc

Firefly993 · 27/03/2024 14:39

Did he enjoy childcare? I'm quite shy and social aspect of work can be hard but I love preschool children! No negativity and just easier than mixing with adults all day!
What about training in childcare, a teaching assistant or special needs?

mondaytosunday · 27/03/2024 14:45

Retail doesn't sound like a match cut someone who is shy. A picker or warehouse worker (does he have a license)? A friends son worked for Sainsbury's stocking shelves at 5am in his gap year.

QueenBakingBee · 27/03/2024 14:51

Hi OP, please get your son to register on the https://www.gov.uk/apply-apprenticeship this is where most apprenticeships are advertised. You also need him to tailor his CV to each job (match as many of the skills as he can to what the job is asking). Lastly, tell him to set up an application tracker (spreadsheet if he can use it) so he can keep track of what he has applied for, closing date and date he can follow up asking how his application is progressing. Good luck! I know it isn't easy.

Find an apprenticeship

Register your profile, search vacancies and apply for an apprenticeship - you must be 16 or over

https://www.gov.uk/apply-apprenticeship

Candleab · 27/03/2024 15:18

mondaytosunday · 27/03/2024 14:45

Retail doesn't sound like a match cut someone who is shy. A picker or warehouse worker (does he have a license)? A friends son worked for Sainsbury's stocking shelves at 5am in his gap year.

No he can't drive. Can't afford it until he's employed.

All the warehouse type jobs are on industrial estates with poor transport links.

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Overthinking22 · 27/03/2024 16:02

Sounds like he needs to build up his confidence first. What about online courses to start with and volunteering for a year.

Charity shops/food banks are always after volunteers, be up front say he would prefer to work at the back sorting stock. Start with 4 hours once a week and build up. If he's struggling to get a job he needs experience.

AlecTrevelyan006 · 27/03/2024 16:29

Candleab · 27/03/2024 12:01

I don't really know. I've not done a CV in years, I feel like I'm no help to him at all.

I feel embarrassed myself tbh.

i'm sure you're doing your best. Don't be embarrassed. It's tough out there.

re: apprenticeships - they're for all ages these days and certianly worth looking into

https://www.apprenticeships.gov.uk/apprentices

Become an apprentice

https://www.apprenticeships.gov.uk/apprentices

Loopsielou · 27/03/2024 16:36

He could get a taxi to and from work. Anything to get him back in the workforce. Even if this meant he only brought home a small amount of pay it would break the cycle

JockTamsonsBairns · 27/03/2024 16:59

Xiaoxiong · 27/03/2024 13:14

What was the job he enjoyed?

also what @WaltzingWaters says - when my BIL was in a similar situation he rang every care agency - he had zero experience, but they were desperate for men who were able to be 1:1 for male service users, and also were stronger and more able to lift and move people. He ended up as a carer for a young man about his age and they had a great time doing stuff together, it massively boosted BIL's confidence as well after a rocky educational experience. He now works in sales after 3 years as a carer and has bought his own house (10 years earlier than the rest of us managed!)

Absolutely this.

I second what @WaltzingWaters suggested.
A 19yo lad who is keen to work would get snapped up in the care sector - particularly offering support work to young people with additional needs.

It can be hard work, but it can also be incredibly rewarding, and a whole lot of fun.
He will meet people from all walks of life, and will be accepted at face value.

I did it 28 years ago, because I didn't know where else to turn - and I'm still in the sector now.

Good luck to you both 😊

TheSoundOfMucus · 27/03/2024 17:36

Third suggestion about care work. Both my nephew and I started out in this way having struggled socially in school and with MH issues. He has worked with adults with learning diffs for a number of years now, he is gentle and shy and highly regarded. And now at 27 he has a place at uni to train as a nurse. I went into the homelessness sector and ended up training as a social worker. Neither of us had any prior experience when we started work in our late teens; they are crying out for staff.

ReliefComic · 27/03/2024 17:40

NCForQuestions · 27/03/2024 12:12

This isn't about you, it's about him. Employers don't really want someone's mum doing the application process for them...

Sign him up to UC today. Look for your nearest job centre and go visit it together. That's a good start.

That’s a bit harsh. I did a CV for a young person I know who had had a tough time and used a contact to get a foot in the door.

Of course the lad’s mum wants to help him, who wouldn’t in the circumstances.

Abouttimeforanamechange · 27/03/2024 17:45

The other issue is he doesn't drive, obviously unaffordable atm and all the warehouse jobs are off in industrial areas that don't really have great public transport.

Is there an Amazon depot anywhere near you? The Amazon place a few towns away from here runs a bus service for its workers, to places where they can pick up local buses.

caringcarer · 27/03/2024 18:36

My elder son left school with only a few qualifications as he had ADHD. It did I
Prove as he grew up though. He got a job as a Drivers Mate delivering furniture. Then his employer offered him to become a van driver so he did that. Then after a couple of years they offered him Class 2 lorry driving training. He did that and passed his test. After 3 years he did the class 1 lorry driving course and passed his test. He's been a class 1 lorry driver for about 10 years and it is a shortage area. Most of the drivers seem to be coming up for retirement. Many companies will put a person through training if they prove reliable and hard working.

sashh · 28/03/2024 05:01

You must have a community shop, charity shop or food bank near you where he could volunteer and get both experience and a reference?

In the meantime he needs to sign up for benefits. YOur rent has gone up your council tax will too.

AfraidToRun · 28/03/2024 05:09

You can do some apprenticeships at any age. Our oldest was in his 30s.

MariaVT65 · 28/03/2024 05:21

Great suggestions on here op, i also recommend doing voluntary work, even sorting things at local baby banks etc.

I am also happy to look at his cv for you if you can get it over to me this morning.

MariaVT65 · 28/03/2024 05:27

If he hss experience with children, msybe contacted all the local soft play centres to see if they have vacancies.

jolies1 · 28/03/2024 06:27

NCForQuestions · 27/03/2024 11:58

Start by getting him on benefits. You both need the income.

Then he will also be able to access programmes to help him with his CV, improve skillset etc. Could he go back to college? Evenings classes?

If he's worked before you need to look at transferable skills from that job which can translate into other roles - punctuality, listening skills, following instructions, giving instructions, dealing with complaints or adverse incidents in the workplace, using his initiative, ability to learn, working under pressure or at pace... Doesn't have to be the same industry!

Absolutely don’t dismiss retail work for this - it’s a great industry to start you off learning the basic skills of work, interaction - lots of transferrable skills. Has he applied for some of the big box retailers like B&Q? They are normally pretty good at taking on a wide range of people.

letitlego · 28/03/2024 06:44

Ok, i work in recruitment. It's a tough job market but the retail snd hospitality sectors are struggling to find good people.

If he cant get paid work he must volunteer. Charity shop?

How is he going about his applications? Have you helped him? Worth a chat with him. He just needs to stand out a tiny bit.

I frequently get emails from young people with a CV attached: no cover email or message. I delete immediately. I get enough email of good applications to filter through

Dont they teach these basic skills in schools anymore?

letitlego · 28/03/2024 06:45

beAsensible1 · 27/03/2024 12:00

Also as someone who employs people all the time. I do not care about small gaps, especially if it’s for retail roles etc

November till now is fine.

Agree

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