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DS can't find a job. What about the gap now?

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Candleab · 27/03/2024 11:40

DS is 19. Had a very bad time mental health wise, all managed at home as GP was useless and he's a bloke so wouldn't engage (private therapy)
Our family suffered a very stressful time whilst he was at college, a really bad event.

He left college at the end of his first year with no As levels.

He got a job which he enjoyed for a while but the environment wasn't great and so he lined up another job through a friend and handed his notice in.

The job fell through.

This was in November of last year.

He's been applying but just got nowhere.

Just retail jobs, customer service etc... But the previous job wa sin a completely different field so he has no retail experience.

It's been months now and I'm on disability benefits and I didn't want him to be in benefits so I've just been funding him out of my money but turns out I've been paying extra rent every month because he's a non dependant and was still down as working. My rents gone up.

I don't know what to do, he has been applying. I've sat with him many times whilst he sends off applications but nothing. Not even an interview.

He has no friends. He doesn't leave the house.

I'm just so worried and now there's a big gap in his employment too on his limited CV.

I'm scared his mental health is going down hill again.

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Candleab · 27/03/2024 12:26

YYURYYUCICYYUR4ME · 27/03/2024 12:20

I work in employability support and I hope the following is helpful:

Sign up for UC, so that he is covering the non-dependant deduction and is able to make some contribution. They will ask him to come into the Job Centre, but whether they offer help is another story for another day!
Princes Trust is brilliant - it is about those first steps, soft employment skills, working with others, volunteering and they are totally geared up for those that struggle with confidence. Hopefully you have a Teams Programme running locally and I have referred many a young person and they love it!
Are you in housing association accommodation, as they often have dedicated teams to help and your son is not alone in how he is feeling and the difficulties of getting into a workplace and, they place more people into work and training than the agencies being heavily funded by the government.
Apprenticeships - no age limit, but Maths / English at C / 4 is the entry. Check out the Gov Apprenticeship site.
NEET support varies from area to area and the funding has been decimated, but worth a shout out to the local authority or speaking to someone in the NEET Team, again local authority to see what training programmes are available.
Volunteering - use your local voluntary association and small steps, so building confidence, getting used to being at a venue, working with others, will help build his CV.

I hope this helps.

Thankyou.

He has GCSEs 4 and above in maths Sci eng.

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ViciousCurrentBun · 27/03/2024 12:26

He needs to sign on for UC so his NI stamp is paid. DS signed on when he left college after A levels. He was after a job while he decided what to do. His work person from the DWP was really nice because she knew he wanted to work and he was pleasant to her. He got a job loading freight on to planes, a night shift which is hard to recruit for and got £19 ph which was good for a just 19 year old. He then decided on a degree apprenticeship and was accepted.

Get your DS volunteering in a charity shop. I have retired and do this, we have had a string of youngsters who do it just for the work experience and quite a few don’t stay long. We had a lovely lad K who landed a job after about 5 months he still pops in. He was quite an anxious lad as well.

He can look up how to put together a CV online.

Startingagainandagain · 27/03/2024 12:31
  • He can do some volunteering to help with gaining work experience in retail (charity shop) or other areas
  • there are many training courses aimed specifically at young people
  • an apprenticeship might be a good idea too.

Maybe help him think about what he is interested in (does he want to work in an office? outdoors? in a trade? in a shop? do something creative? be self-employed ) then work out what training he needs to get there.

x2boys · 27/03/2024 12:33

Candleab · 27/03/2024 11:57

Yes I've looked but are they available for 19 yo?

I don't know how to help him/where to look.

I feel like I'm failing him by being clueless.

We're in Manchester if anyone has any info.

My nephew started an apprenticeship when he ws 18 after failing his level three course
We are also in greater Manchester, so they are definitely available
I don't think the best apprenticeship ,but he's earning and gaining experience
It sounds like he needs career advice ?

Mademetoxic · 27/03/2024 12:39

I'm in Greater Manchester as well. My local council has a Facebook page dedicated to jobs and training schemes for people in your son's situation.
Does yours have anything like that?

Blueberrycreampie · 27/03/2024 12:40

Encourage him to apply for ESA (employment support allowance) which should give him access to different forms of support and learning to enable him to find suitable employment. I used to work with young adults such as your son in a careers setting but not for a few years now.

Abouttimeforanamechange · 27/03/2024 12:44

He has no friends. He doesn't leave the house.

This won't be helping his MH. He needs to get out of the house, even if it's just for a walk in the sun.

Are there any environmental projects he could volunteer for? Gardens, rivers, canals? He might find there are fewer social demands, and he would benefit from doing physical work in the open air.

RaininSummer · 27/03/2024 12:47

For anybody else reading, just a note that you do not need to have gcses C or 4 to start an intermediate apprenticeship. If you don't have grades you will do maths and English as part of the apprenticeship.

Candleab · 27/03/2024 12:47

Blueberrycreampie · 27/03/2024 12:40

Encourage him to apply for ESA (employment support allowance) which should give him access to different forms of support and learning to enable him to find suitable employment. I used to work with young adults such as your son in a careers setting but not for a few years now.

You can't apply for ESA anymore. It's UC now. It's a legacy benefit, everyone is being transfered to UC

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Candleab · 27/03/2024 12:48

Abouttimeforanamechange · 27/03/2024 12:44

He has no friends. He doesn't leave the house.

This won't be helping his MH. He needs to get out of the house, even if it's just for a walk in the sun.

Are there any environmental projects he could volunteer for? Gardens, rivers, canals? He might find there are fewer social demands, and he would benefit from doing physical work in the open air.

I think physical work would be really good for him.

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AnyDayAnyWay · 27/03/2024 12:51

Does he have decent GCSEs (particularly maths and English)? Just wondered if that might be holding him back if not, as that’s something concrete he could do something about

Rummikub · 27/03/2024 12:52

YYURYYUCICYYUR4ME · 27/03/2024 12:20

I work in employability support and I hope the following is helpful:

Sign up for UC, so that he is covering the non-dependant deduction and is able to make some contribution. They will ask him to come into the Job Centre, but whether they offer help is another story for another day!
Princes Trust is brilliant - it is about those first steps, soft employment skills, working with others, volunteering and they are totally geared up for those that struggle with confidence. Hopefully you have a Teams Programme running locally and I have referred many a young person and they love it!
Are you in housing association accommodation, as they often have dedicated teams to help and your son is not alone in how he is feeling and the difficulties of getting into a workplace and, they place more people into work and training than the agencies being heavily funded by the government.
Apprenticeships - no age limit, but Maths / English at C / 4 is the entry. Check out the Gov Apprenticeship site.
NEET support varies from area to area and the funding has been decimated, but worth a shout out to the local authority or speaking to someone in the NEET Team, again local authority to see what training programmes are available.
Volunteering - use your local voluntary association and small steps, so building confidence, getting used to being at a venue, working with others, will help build his CV.

I hope this helps.

Great suggestions here.

If he is interested in retail then I’d suggest volunteering in a charity shop. The right skills plus fills that gap.

Food bank volunteering is good too.

Has he tried amazon/ warehouse work?

UC will support him in funding a job. If he has any additional support needs then he can have a disability work coach and they were v supportive with my dd.

2andadog · 27/03/2024 12:59

Look for local recruitment agencies hiring staff for warehouses etc just so he can have a bit of income and some purpose which will help his confidence. If he is polite and punctual he will find a job in this field with little problems.

Then find something he is interested in and get some volunteer work as mentioned.

Princes trust is a great suggestion as well. Good luck to him and you.

Roja7 · 27/03/2024 13:03

Dacadactyl · 27/03/2024 11:58

Your council should have an employment and skills team and they will support 16-24 year olds who aren't in employment, education or training. Contact them for help and advice.

This and also check this link www.gov.uk/guidance/find-a-skills-bootcamp

There are schemes that will help him with training and pair him with employers or guarantee an interview.

mewkins · 27/03/2024 13:10

Dacadactyl · 27/03/2024 11:58

Your council should have an employment and skills team and they will support 16-24 year olds who aren't in employment, education or training. Contact them for help and advice.

This! Google NEET team in your county and you should be able to find them. They can arrange work experience and support and they're really supportive.

SherrieElmer · 27/03/2024 13:13

Join the army.

Candleab · 27/03/2024 13:13

SherrieElmer · 27/03/2024 13:13

Join the army.

Absolutely not.

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Xiaoxiong · 27/03/2024 13:14

What was the job he enjoyed?

also what @WaltzingWaters says - when my BIL was in a similar situation he rang every care agency - he had zero experience, but they were desperate for men who were able to be 1:1 for male service users, and also were stronger and more able to lift and move people. He ended up as a carer for a young man about his age and they had a great time doing stuff together, it massively boosted BIL's confidence as well after a rocky educational experience. He now works in sales after 3 years as a carer and has bought his own house (10 years earlier than the rest of us managed!)

MollyButton · 27/03/2024 13:14

Apply for UC
Princes trust can be great
I've known apprentices in their 50/60s
If he's interested in outdoor work then maybe look at the National Trust?

Candleab · 27/03/2024 13:15

The other issue is he doesn't drive, obviously unaffordable atm and all the warehouse jobs are off in industrial areas that don't really have great public transport.

He was working in childcare.

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Loopsielou · 27/03/2024 13:15

Labouring? Constant adverts for labourers needed on Facebook round here. He might find his niche that way. Definitely get him back out and about asap. I know of far too many teenagers who have time off, get into gaming and go into a spiral of lacking confidence/being comfy at home.

TeenLifeMum · 27/03/2024 13:17

How about Porte ring in a hospital? They often have bank shifts you can pick up even if no permanent posts exist and that can become permanent. Once in the nhs, there’s so many opportunities.

DorisJoy · 27/03/2024 13:20

Take a look at nationalcareers.gov.uk, there’s also a helpline he can call for advice.

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