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Feel shocked by Moscow attack

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skyfly · 23/03/2024 20:17

I feel shocked by the horrific attack in Moscow and loss of some many innocent lives. And at the same time surprised by the lack of widespread solidarity and support to its victims. We were Je suis Charlie, stand with Paris, Ukraine and Israel, victims of Boston marathon bombing etc etc. We changed our avatars on FB, posted messages on social media to show solidarity and support. Yet, nothing for Moscow. I’m not naive, I do understand that Moscow is the capital of the state, we are not friendly with anymore, but at least we (as individuals) could show some empathy and solidarity to the victims of the terror? When does the cost of human life and showing solidarity to the victims of terrorist attacks become so dependent on politics and driven by social media PR campaigns?!

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DreamTheMoors · 24/03/2024 01:26

NigelHarmansNewWife · 23/03/2024 20:24

I think it was horrific. I also think it was horrific that Putin has said the attackers were fleeing to Ukraine when we know Islamic State has claimed this attack. We also know US intelligence warned Russia an attack of this nature was imminent.

I came here to say exactly this, @NigelHarmansNewWife
And Putin scoffed and insulted the US.
That’s the thanks we get for warning them of an imminent terror attack.
The man is abhorrent.

MississippiAF · 24/03/2024 03:05

We changed our avatars on FB, posted messages on social media to show solidarity and support

But this is all meaningless shite.

HotChocWine · 24/03/2024 03:18

Ursulla · 23/03/2024 20:37

Yeah people in the UK don't care so much about Russian dead.

I don't think that's the case

I think people don't like what Putin and his cronies are doing

They even tried to blame the attack on Ukraine

OffToBedforshire · 24/03/2024 03:45

Interesting that you've only mentioned other attacks that have caught the public's attention. There are, of course, other attacks that go on across the world that aren't seen as 'newsworthy'. Remember the 200+ people who were killed in a single attack in Nigeria in 2022? No? What about the attacks in DRC that are sadly very regular nowadays. There were two separate car bombings that each killed over 200 people in Pakistan last year and I can't find any mumsnet threads about either of those atrocities...

Mouse82 · 24/03/2024 06:03

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Feel shocked by Moscow attack
skyfly · 24/03/2024 07:06

OffToBedforshire · 24/03/2024 03:45

Interesting that you've only mentioned other attacks that have caught the public's attention. There are, of course, other attacks that go on across the world that aren't seen as 'newsworthy'. Remember the 200+ people who were killed in a single attack in Nigeria in 2022? No? What about the attacks in DRC that are sadly very regular nowadays. There were two separate car bombings that each killed over 200 people in Pakistan last year and I can't find any mumsnet threads about either of those atrocities...

That’s exactly my point! We react to what media and FB tells us to react too. I know people could not process all the bad news happening in the world and react to each and every event, but the use of pre-mediated FB campaigns on the specific events I mentioned in the post caught my eye. When there is a banner ready for people to use, they happily put it on within the split second, but if there is no such thing, most would carry on with their daily lives. Not that it matters at all to eliminate terrorism or end the conflict, it’s just the recent social phenomenon. And the absence of it for Moscow attack is visible, cause it’s not a friendly regime. Hence my point that compassion and humanity starts to be heavily driven by political agenda.

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skyfly · 24/03/2024 07:13

Annettekurtin · 24/03/2024 00:24

How many people were standing with israel even in the days following the terrorist attacks on 7 October? The hate started straight away and has only got worse

Plenty stand with Israel! The support was outpouring

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OffToBedforshire · 24/03/2024 07:26

@skyfly I guess the point I was making was why did YOU choose to make a thread about the Moscow attack and not one in, say, DRC? Is it because Moscow is closer, white, in our consciousness more?
The reason you have spotlighted Moscow for your post is the same logic why others have posted about Paris on Facebook.

Iwantitidontwantit · 24/03/2024 07:32

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I couldn't agree with you more.

I had to read that comment at least three times cause I couldn't believe someone had written such a pile of shit whilst a whole nation of civilians are being murdered and starved to death

skyfly · 24/03/2024 07:35

OffToBedforshire · 24/03/2024 07:26

@skyfly I guess the point I was making was why did YOU choose to make a thread about the Moscow attack and not one in, say, DRC? Is it because Moscow is closer, white, in our consciousness more?
The reason you have spotlighted Moscow for your post is the same logic why others have posted about Paris on Facebook.

Fair point. I think it’s the brutality and scale of this attack that took on me that they were closing all exits and putting fire in the hall with 6500 people inside

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OffToBedforshire · 24/03/2024 07:57

I think all terrorist attacks are equally brutal and in terms of scale - they are all attempting the same thing which is to kill as many people as possible.

WinterMorn · 24/03/2024 09:09

Nat6999 · 24/03/2024 01:12

I can't understand what ISIS have against Russia, I would have thought it more likely Russia would be supplying them with arms & munitions.

Russia backed Assad in Syria and helped in trying to drive IS out.

WinterMorn · 24/03/2024 09:14

OffToBedforshire · 24/03/2024 07:57

I think all terrorist attacks are equally brutal and in terms of scale - they are all attempting the same thing which is to kill as many people as possible.

Strangely enough, the true aim of terrorism isn't to kill as many people as possible - it’s to cause terror. The view is taken that if people die along the way, so be it. The point is to make everyone scared about their everyday, mundane life, thus forcing Governments to listen and ideally capitulate. Think about the location of all the really ‘newsworthy’ terrorist incidents over the years. It’s churches, workplaces, transport systems, markets and pop concerts.

Annettekurtin · 24/03/2024 09:17

skyfly · 24/03/2024 07:13

Plenty stand with Israel! The support was outpouring

It really wasn’t. Criticism of Israel and victim blaming started before the 7 October attacks had even been brought to an end.

KillerTomato7 · 25/03/2024 03:38

The attack on civilians was horrific and unjustifiable. But it has to be said, that there probably would have been a more rapid response by Russian authorities if their special forces were in a state of readiness, rather than a state of being dead in some Ukrainian ditch. Which of course is exactly where Putin put them.

And it’s not gone unnoticed that the same security apparatus which is capable of monitoring every last movement by Putin’s opponents, and which could apparently spare 300k young people to die in Ukraine, can’t provide basic security for ordinary Russians.

Lovemybunnies · 25/03/2024 03:43

If you read about it, there are credible theories that Putin is behind it. It’s not that people don’t have sympathy for the victims. It’s just that you can’t show support for such a vile regime. Particularly when they are causing widespread suffering and contributing to worldwide economic hardship.

Hiddenmnetter · 25/03/2024 03:56

Lovemybunnies · 25/03/2024 03:43

If you read about it, there are credible theories that Putin is behind it. It’s not that people don’t have sympathy for the victims. It’s just that you can’t show support for such a vile regime. Particularly when they are causing widespread suffering and contributing to worldwide economic hardship.

Yeah I read a few pieces about how it was a false flag operation to justify scaling up the Ukraine “special military operation”. I guess time will tell, for now the whole ISIS attack theory has the confession going for it and the US pre warning them.

As for OPs point: yes of course it’s terribly sad for those people who died. Try not to worry about what’s on Facebook, it’s meaningless garbage. Facebook is about making money- that’s it. Try to remember that; all the “free” social media you enjoy is very busy harvesting your personal information to sell to advertisers. Facebook is a gigantic click-bait advertising routine. I’m sure MN do the same- it’s literally the business model of so many tech companies today..

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