UK PR person sought for H&M. Any way back?

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Headline on the Daily Fail tonight claims that Harry and Meghan are seeking a UK PR person to solve their 'popularity problem'.

I work in corporate PR these days but did a few years in celeb PR. If the story is true, I can't see a way for their UK public image to be fixed. Obviously lots do like them and feel they've been badly treated but even if they could win over the majority public, the media isn't likely to give up (especially papers that have been sued).

Just curious really if anyone could imagine a scenario where they'd be liked again by the majority in the UK? What would they have to do? Go into the celeb jungle? Apologise to the nation? No idea really! All I do know is that if anyone takes that job, they've got a tough task.

No way. People have seen right through them. You can’t trash your family, make up lies & then expect to be popular with the public. They should just stay in California & make the most of their life there, although it seems Americans are getting pretty fed up of them too.

I think there is still a lot of support for them, well mostly for Harry.

But they'd need to do it through purpose. Through doing something that was positive for the UK whether that's through charity work or something else and that moved then forward.

His win with the papers for example was also a with for meaningful and ethical reporting and he could do more here if he wanted - if it's something he really feels passionate about.

Harry was pretty good at this in his own right right before Megan came along. I'm not a fan of hers but she's not a scape goat either. The royal family is a bit fucked up after all.

But Harry will be the only brother of our King one day and technically the only senior royal. Without the shenanigans of the last decade I always thought they would have made real positive impact together.

And maybe they still can.

First thing they need to do is admit they lied otherwise interview.
Nobody is going to belive a word they say until they do.

Noone can even say they didn't lie because the twps actually lied about things that were very easily proved!

I personally think the only way back for Harry, and it’s a slim chance, is if he were to split with M and make out like it’s was her fault, that his head was turned.
They really should just stay over their and live their lives.

I think the only way would be to stay out of sight for a period of time, not seek any publicity and minimise it when it happens.

20 years ought to do it.

You'd have to get them palling around with W and K to have any hope. Otherwise too much damage and I think people wouldn't trust them to stay, there would always be a "flight risk" especially if things didn't go their way.

I think it'd need to be a brave PR company to take them on.
They seem to have an aversion to taking advice from those they pay to guide them.
Would the kudos of having royalty on their books really outweigh any possible backlash? I'm not so sure.

It doesn't really matter if they are liked by the public or not, they'd need to be liked by their family. So they could do umpteen amazing things but it might not make a difference to the RF.

Why do you refer to it as the Daily Fail?
Ir that a roundabout way of saying it’s a rag and you don’t believe what they write?

No they arnt coming across as trustworthy there are so many twists

Allege racism!
No No No the press said that

He cut me off financially!
Public records show different

The BRITISH PRESS! (Don't have clean hands in this but)
Proceed to show headlines from everywhere but the British publications

No-one protected meghan!
Convenient that he forgot the statement his brother released which is more than they did for diana camilla or Kate

Urgh the list goes on they just come across as drama seekers which is not how I feel the royals should be perceived this isn't an episode of eastenders 😑

i think they could storm it! Teens like them pushing against boring old parent figures and facing up to mental health issues

I think they would be really quite stupid and clearly unable to read the room if they think that they can win over the public.
I'm sure some will be won over but the vast majority wont be I imagine.

It would have to be a brave or desperate PR firm that takes them on. They have not listened to all the other PR firms they have used previously.

Meghan never liked us as a nation or a place to live. She's a California/Hollywood type of gal, there is no way she ever wanted to open care homes on a wet Wednesday morning. I read, could be made up, that she left a BH garden party after an hour as she was bored and that on a walk about in Australia remarked that she couldn't believe she wasn't being paid to do it. Honestly, Harry has a lot to snswer for, he completely misled her on what her lifestyle would be. Also, thousands turned up for her wedding so she actually was popular, I really liked her then.

What I found absolutely staggering is that the royals have “won over the public”. They must have the best PR in the business given the sycophantic way they’re treated despite being desperately underwhelming in every way. H & M should employ the same people 🤷‍♀️

I think they'd need to start off by apologising. And really apologising fir causing hurt etc not a "we are sorry if you feel..." type.
And dropping their law suits,plus what's he called begins with O mouthpiece.
Then being very very quiet except a few well picked charities and supportive comments, for a very long time.
Just being there for a few family events, being careful not to push forward, and do not speak to the press about it or things that are said to them. Or make comments implying they know more/understand more/are more caring about the rf members than anyone else.
Just be seen to be hanging about in a friendly way.
Then they have a chance.

They'll need to get back in with the royal family first and have them back on side.
Once that's done, there can be a few comments from members of the rf of how it's wonderful to have the family back together, then H&M can say how happy they are that they've all reached an understanding and how they're looking forward to a future together.
Then they can all skip off into the sunset and live happily ever after.
Please dm me for my consultation fee.

Well, the British public hated Camilla and now she's Queen and popular enough. But that's after decades of self-effacing good works and actually being a pretty nice person. I don't see H & M going that route.

I thought the thread was about the clothes shop.

@GrazingSheep , I thought that the DM was known as the Daily Liar.

A wedding that cost £32 million....watched by millions of people...and Britain hated her because of her skin colour...I don't think so.

I opened this thread thinking it would be about the fashion retailer!

I thought it was about the shop too

I'm surprised so many people have such intimate knowledge and are on first name terms with the royal family. Amazing

The only way I could see it was if they truly humbled themselves, stopped attending the opening of an envelope in thousands of dollars of clothes, parading about in Range Rover convoys. Instead they went and lived relatively modestly, quietly, doing normal jobs.

People say it can't be done because he's royalty and he thinks it's impossible because of "securiddy"; but William and Kate did it. I'm actually a committed republican. I don't wish individual members of the RF ill-will, I just don't agree with the whole system. However, when W and K were living in Anglesey and he was working as a search and rescue pilot, I really warmed to them. If it's possible for them to live an unassuming life, it is possible for H and M.

Go away for a few years, do genuinely good work (not buy awards, constantly deliver speeches lecturing everyone) and then people might respect them again.

And for goodness sakes, stop whinging about how your brother had more sausages on his breakfast than you!

Whoever they appoint, the Sussexes need to be prepared to hear some direct and unpalatable truths, and have some very difficult conversations if they genuinely want things to change.
I am not taking sides here but they have a significant image problem that won't change unless they do.

I think this thread shows that it would be almost impossible because there are so many people who are just against them and believe that everything they say and do are lies.

If they ignore that swathe of the population on the basis that nothing will change their minds, there probably is work that could be done on people who are undecided/neutral. However, I think that one of the biggest PR failures of everyone involved in this sorry mess is that they have allowed the rift to become public property and both sides have behaved, at various times, in ways that are counter productive. There were simple things that could have been done early on to manage things but weren't. I suspect as a result of a combination of incompetent PR (I don't think any of the royal PR teams have actually fully understood the reality of 21st century media relations), petty in-fighting within and across the PR teams (so deeply unprofessional I'm embarrassed for the lot of them) and the behaviour/preferences of the principals involved.

In corporate PR, even when there are PR teams working at a product/business level, the corporate PR sets the tone and agenda. But that is clearly NOT how it works in the royal family. So the Queen, and now Charles', office do not actually sign off on what everyone else does . That's mistake 1. Mistake 2 is that there are too many petty little fiefdoms and poor leadership.