What is the Tory plan for Britain?

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I hear PM Sunak and other members of the government accusing Labour of "not having a plan". But I haven't heard what the Tory plan is yet beyond more cuts in services to fund tax cuts and the White Elephant that is Rwanda.

Do they have a Growth Plan and how do they intend to deliver it?

It would appear to be throwing the country to their corporate mates to asset strip while distracting the electorate with cheap jingoism.

Bleed it dry while shouting, "Look, a squirrel!"

Exactly previous posters, came on here to say the same. Will add the scorched earth policy of leaving so much crap behind that it will be near impossible for any new government to know where to start. May every single one of the current shower get exactly what they deserve.

1. Inflating Rwanda by 2% per annum.
2. Cutting boats into two.
3. Doubling the National Debt by 2030.
4. Er….
5. Um.

Burn it down and sell off the ashes, basically.

Sunak & that lot are utterly incompetent and we've had nothing but incompetents running the country for 15 years.

Asset strip the country as much as possible is a big part of their plan. This is followed by coming up with dog whistle policies that distract from the real issues. The rest doesn’t matter because they haven’t got a fucking clue!

Asset strip the public sector.

Hurl petrol on the culture war nonsense about trans people/people on benefits/asylum seekers.

The Tory plan is the same as it always has been : To say & do whatever it takes and to have whatever policies are necessary to remain in power.

The Conservative Party exists to govern the U.K. That is the entire purpose of its existence, and one which it has pursued remarkably successfully. It has been in government for 49 of the 73 years since 1951.

Nearly 2 hours after I started this thread no one has come on to explain or even link to the 5 year Tory Plan for Britain and how they will execute and pay for it.

Do they not have one then?

They have talked about reform of the benefits system to get more disabled people back to work and change the system of assessing for work capability/ removing some of the descriptors so essentially meaning more people will be found fit for work.

Did they give any mention to how they're going to get sick and disabled people "fit for work" @Babyroobs?

I think it's a bit like when the high court found that Rwanda was not a safe country to send asylum seekers to, they said "yes it is" and that means it is.

I think the general plan is more advisors to help match disabled people to jobs, more support to return to work or wfh for disabled people, less people awarded LCWRA by removing the mobility and ' substantial risk' descriptors from the work capability assessment - i believe these are descriptors that a lot of people are awarded on, so by removing them it will make it harder for people to be found not fit for work. I think there has been a draught legislation/ white paper proposing this. Also less re-assessments but the general aim to get more people working as they don't have enough tax revenue coming in !!!

As far as I can tell - 5 Subjects at A levels and study maths forever. Let healthcare spiral downwards.
Er that's about it.

Do you have any link to them saying that and their plan for achieving it @Babyroobs? And how they're going to fund it?

Perhaps people have concluded from the loaded question and general tone that this thread won't be conducive to productive discussion?

Although I do think you've already received the responses you wanted to see and the only ones which you'd have accepted. If my understanding is wrong, then I have no idea what you were hoping to achieve with this.

I think the party is so factionalised that there isn’t one over-arching plan. I think Rishi does have a plan (mostly economic) but he has to pretend to have another plan (Rwanda, small boats and all the other populist bollocks) because he’s leading a party with some very vocal unpleasant MPs, some deeply unpleasant party members and ditto voters.

I wish he’d have the courage to say, this is my economic plan and actually I’m relaxed about immigration, which is what I think he really thinks. But, sadly, that’s a vote loser for his core support.

Make the rich even richer, if that's possible, and the poor so poor they can barely eat or keep a roof over their heads. Punish any council that dares oppose the government. Harrow the north into utter submission (and some other irrelevant parts of the country - they only keep Cornwall as it is because they've all got second homes down there that they deign to visit twice a year) and continue to make us an object of utter pity/bemused amusement in the few civilised countries left on the planet.

Anyone who thinks differently must have been in a box for the last fourteen years or have a stone where the heart usually resides.

Government Response to the Work Capability Assessment: Activities and Descriptors Consultation - GOV.UK (www.gov.uk)

Sorry there's no indication of how it will be funded !

It's not a loaded question. It's a really straightforward question and one that is regularly asked of the Opposition.

Thanks for that @Babyroobs. I admit to only having skimmed it at this point, but it looks like a whole load of nothing.

There are no proposals for getting sick people treated so they can return to work. Too many conclusions starting with we want rather than we will do. And at the end, they say that there's nothing they can do unless there are changes to the law.

It is not a plan for growth. It's barely a plan to get the sick and disabled back into work.

I agree with the bit that says people can get straight back onto benefits if their job doesn't work out and the bit about not pressurising sick and disabled claimants though.

And the Opposition has responded how?

Green investment?

Definition of a woman?

Anti-semitism?

I don't think it's a whole load of nothing. It has been talked about in the media quite a lot and disabled people are already concerned, as are advisors like myself who work in this area. I think Labour have indicated they would do similar though. It's being dressed up as helping disabled people to get back to work and 2 billion pounds being spent on doing it so they must be taking it seriously to be 'investing' this much money surely ?

That's the other thing, there are no numbers in that Consultatation. No numbers of claimants, no number of those that will be helped and no financial figures if this Consultation makes it into law and is implemented.

The tories have always singled out the poor and disadvantaged. I'm old enough to remember when single mothers were blamed for the countries problems and this was amplified by the right wing press at the time.