Why was a glass of orange juice a starter?

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I learned this recently. Is it true? What don't I know that might help me understand this?

there is a Wimpy in swanage I went when we were on holiday the other year it was nice enough but not the same 🙁

My mum used to take loads to the bottle bank in the early 80s. They were usually in supermarket car parks IIRC. Before that there was a scheme to return fizzy pop bottles and get a few pence off your purchase. That might have been when pop was delivered off a van by the factory locally though!

I'd forgotten all about bottle banks and the like! Yes, we used to keep glass bottles and jars aside and periodically lug them to the nearest bottle bank. There was a similar bank for tins and cans, another for paper, and there still are some dotted round our borough for old clothes and shoes. Doorstep recycling is much easier but does mean we have lots and lots of bins. We have a black bin for general waste, emptied fortnightly, a green bin or box for recycling (weekly), a food caddy (weekly) and a brown bin for garden waste (weekly, but you have to pay to have a brown bin). Not much room for anything other than bins in our tiny front garden!

I worked in a guest house in the 1970s. Both the orange juice and the soup were made from concentrate in the kitchen. The difference now is that the juice and soup are still often made from concentrate but the mixing is done by the manufacturers so it is less obvious, or sold with better packaging to make it a convenience food rather than it being the norm.

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We have to drag black waste bin up the steps every four weeks to the pavement. Three green recycling bins weekly, one food bin weekly, one brown garden bin fortnightly (extra cost) then there's two bin bags fortnightly, pink for electrical, green for textiles. Plus a little white bag for batteries.

That's nine separate collections. I have to check the app sometimes with the fortnightly ones to make sure I have the right week

Gosh the orange juice as a starter takes me back to the 70s. It was such a feature of tourist hotels. The last time I remember having it was in a small hotel in the West Country in the 1990s. The "WTF is this for" look on the face of of my Danish fiancé, when they placed this tiny glass of orange juice in front of him, was priceless.

I think it is hard for people to imagine how little people ate out in those days. Apart from fish and chips at the seaside/sandwiches in cafes I didn't eat in an actual restaurant (which was a pub restaurant) until I was 14 and only because we were attending a sporting event. My first restaurant dinner was that 70s classic "Gammon and pineapple"

You are lucky that they collect them. We are not in the UK required to take our recycling to the collection centre (paper, cardboard, glass, plastic, batteries).

The council does give us 2 bins and collects general waste and the food waste.

Glass and plastic drinks bottles and cans for water/beer/soft drinks have deposits on them and are taken back to the machine at the supermarket.

I can remember buying Heinz potato salad in a tin.

As well as portions being a lot smaller, snacking between meals wasn’t encouraged. If I complained I was hungry I was offered a slice of bread and butter. For supper I was allowed two squares of Cadbury’s Dairy Milk and biscuits were only eaten in ones or twos.

@KirstenBlest re butter and peanut butter, sure I remember reading in something like the Babysitters club books that they had 'pb and jam' or 'pb and banana' - sounds vile to me as I detest peanut butter but it was written as tho it were a standard thing in USA, to put the peanut butter on first, in the same way we'd put butter on first?
I have been known to have butter and marmalade/butter and jam on toast tho - unfortunately, now that I'm older, it's too fattening to have very often so it's an occasional treat.

We pay £3500 a year for this, the collection centre we're only allowed to visit once a month by appointment.

I do like the idea of refunds on bottles though. That used to be my job as a child 5p for four big glass bottles that was our money as children.

@lunde the gammon and pineapple comment reminded me of another long gone classic: chicken in a basket!! Why was that a ‘thing’?!!

I do like the idea of refunds on bottles though. That used to be my job as a child 5p for four big glass bottles that was our money as children.

It's usual in Germany. They have a bottle section at the side of the supermarket, and you can pick up a crate of beer or water or whatever - and slso return the last lot.

Just normal Amazon

I remember my Gran buying this for the Saturday salad I'm sure there was tinned coleslaw as well?

There was tinned vegetable salad, and it was lush.

here is the proof

and coleslaw

I don't remember the food but that's where we stayed on my first ever trip to the Lakes. We were in an annex by a stream iirc, coming from Essex I was enchanted by it.

But milk bottles went back to the milkman and drinks bottles usually had a deposit if you took them back. We just didn't call it recycling. Newspaper was reused before putting it in the bin (wrapping rubbish, lining the dustbin, cleaning your shoes on it, for puppy piddles etc).

Yes, and veg etc was in brown paper bags which were often saved and reused (if not muddy), before being used during fire lighting.

And the milk floats were electric. Clean and quiet as they did their early morning rounds.

If you served tinned soup at a dinner party now you’d spark a mumsnet thread about it the next day.

I remember the orange juice. I opted for the ham and melon. My parents must’ve loved me ordering that 😂

I’m just listening to Who Dares Wins by Dominic Sandbrook, a history of Britain 1979 to 1982. There’s a great chapter on the food of the era for anyone interested.

We had the rooms on the balcony that you could access by stone steps from the car park... It wasn't uncommon to find sheep wandering up and down in front of our rooms!! 🤣 🤣 🤣

I very rarely drink it but I love it with loads of ice and half and half diluted with cold water
Weird but it's so refreshing

Does anyone remember Maggi soups. Cold winter day coming in from a long cold walk from school. A packet of dried soup whisked up with water put on the stove absolutely delicious.

Sometimes it was cocoa on the stove made with full cream milk.

Yes I remember Maggi soup, and Batchelors dried soup. I used to have a flask of tomato soup with my packed lunch at school every day. I also remember when it was really cold and the milk froze into little lollies which poked out of the top of the bottles when they were outside for a couple of hours. I used to get really excited every morning during the big freeze in (I think) 1963 when I opened the door to get the milk in for my mum, and there was a lolly most days for about six weeks 😆😆