Why was a glass of orange juice a starter?

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Yes long spaghetti, I think it was in a blue paper wrapper

Garofalo?

If so, you can buy it at Ocado - fabulous spaghetti, just like I remember from being a kid and my dad cooking ragu.

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I can't remember the brand, but it was like that

The brand was Napolini.

I remember staying in the Pillar Hotel in the Lake District during the 1970s. They had a dinner gong and served OJ out of a can.

Nobody had ever heard of recycling then, everything went in the bin. Shocking now to remember throwing newspapers, bottles, tins in the bin but we all did it. That was in the era before wheelie bins, when the bin men came down your drive to collect your galvanised metal bins and heaved them up on their shoulders to put into the bin lorry.

Yes, a paediatrician told me that when my son's iron was low. Always a glass of orange/pineapple etc juice with a meal esp when it contains red meat, and if they're a bit faffy with eating up vegetables. Apparently even if you eat a lot of red meat you can still lack iron if your diet is low in Vitamin C.

But milk bottles went back to the milkman and drinks bottles usually had a deposit if you took them back. We just didn't call it recycling. Newspaper was reused before putting it in the bin (wrapping rubbish, lining the dustbin, cleaning your shoes on it, for puppy piddles etc).

Yeo Valley yoghurt came in waxed cardboard cartons until the 2000s. I used them for firelighters for my wood burner.

I remember the very long spaghetti but it was probably more likely to break in transit or in the shop which is why it is not usually stocked in supermarkets now.

Nobody had ever heard of recycling then, everything went in the bin. Shocking now to remember throwing newspapers, bottles, tins in the bin but we all did it. That was in the era before wheelie bins, when the bin men came down your drive to collect your galvanised metal bins and heaved them up on their shoulders to put into the bin lorry.

As well as what @CaptainMyCaptain says about returning bottles and reusing newspaper, there was probably a lot less packaging in the first place with people more likely to buy meat from butcher and veg from grocers and a lot less ready meals. We may remember the vesta curries and crispy pancakes but there was nowhere near the amount of microwaveable meals in plastic containers .

OMG, long spaghetti takes me back

Mum was never a great cook and I remember her one and only attempt at spaghetti Bolognese. I must have been at primary school so early 70's. It was disgusting. She had over cooked the spaghetti so it was to me, a plate of white slimy worms and the "ragu" was just mince and then the powdered parmesan - pure boke

It must have been the 80's and I was invited to dinner at BF home and spaghetti Bol was on the menu and I was horrified , only his mum could cool and it was the best meal I had ever had and I still love it today

Mum still refuses to eat it :)

That sounds amazing! We have lost sight of good home style food.

Not everyone. Our house used to confuse people, because we always separated conpostable, paper and the bin. Meat and fish scraps went to the cats. It wasn't till about the mid-late '90s that people thought it normal that we had different bins.

I can't remember when our local authority first provided us with a general rubbish bin and a recycling bin, but it was probably in the early 1990s. Prior to that, every single bit of rubbish was indeed taken to the tip or (in our case) incinerated at a combined heat and power plant.

Agreed. In the 1970s I don't think many people had microwaves.

The flipside to less packaging, however, was that shelf life of food was much shorter. Good packaging keeps food fresh for far longer and in theory should reduce food waste.

Did you have to order this through Amazon fresh?

We don't get Ocado here, and Amazon fresh comes from our local morrisons. Morrisons don't stock this, so I know it won't come if I put an Amazon fresh order in.

I have a friend who lives in Cornwall. In her LA they separate tins, glass and paper/card but all food waste still goes into the black bin bag for landfill. I was staying with her when she lost her phone and in desperation had to go through the bin bag, full of week-old festering food, to check it wasn't in there. Horrible. Who wants a bag of festering food in their kitchen?

In the 70s we used to save any meat or fish or simple carb scraps for neighbours' dogs: there were very few leftovers because if there were they were eaten the next day. Veg and fruit peelings etc went for the compost heap, newspapers and cardboard were used to light fires and because most of our shopping was local and meat, fish, bread, fruit and veg came in paper bags there was very little plastic. Until Vesta curry night, obviously.

@Abeona , for many years when I was a child we had a solid fuel boiler - any smelly food waste (that wasn’t suitable for the compost heap) went in there.
Even if anyone’s food waste needs to go in the landfill bin, I don’t understand why they wouldn’t have a kitchen caddy with a liner for it, so it’s not just chucked in with everything else - at least it’d be securely contained.

No wonder people get maggots in their bins! Bluebottles are said to be able to smell anything dead (so meat or fish scraps) from a mile away!

What?????
No one knew about recycling "back then"???!

I grew up in the 1970s/80s
Newspapers, paper, card -all bundled up and taken to Friends of the Earth. Ditto steel tins.

Glass bottles - mostly rinsed and returned, but we had bottle banks from at least 1980.

Plastic packaging - significantly less!! But yes. I think this was thrown away. If it didn't join the stacks of ice cream tubs and yoghurt pots washed out and kept "just in case". And ice cream used to come in card.

Glass bottles - mostly rinsed and returned, but we had bottle banks from at least 1980.

Or 5p back in the Corona bottle.

What a great idea. The first restaurant I went to was a Berni Inn, prawn cocktail starter, steak and always finish with an Irish coffee 😆 the choice wasn't great but in the 70s ordinary folk simply didn't go to restaurants - far too intimidating. Betni Inns opened the world of dining out to us.

I remember my parents talking about Berni Inns and thinking it was some bloke!
When I waitressed as a student if you accidentally mixed the cream into an Irish coffee instead of it sitting atop the drink, they deducted it from our wages.

You must have been a very aware person at that time and fortunate to have such a facility. I'm 60 and when I bought my first house in 1988 we lived in a small village and although we did return bottles to the milkman there was no local glass recycling facility so all wine bottles, glass jars etc were binned, all newspapers binned, tins binned, also garden waste was put in the bin.
Shortly after I moved to my current house in a different area a few years later in 1996 we were given a black wheelie bin and green garden waste bin and the supermarket had bottle and newspaper banks, but we were still binning food, plastic, tins till the LA brought in recycling probably about 20 years ago.

Haven’t had long spaghetti in 100 years!

Seem to remember that my dad made the spag bol sauce out of corned beef mind you! Hopefully I am misremembering because uuuuuurgh……

I still buy these for my husband when I'm working in London. Quick(ish) diversion up the M25 to Rickmansworth. I like them too but not as much as he does. They do taste different than how they were in the 1980s/90s.