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If you are diagnosed with ASD, what was your AQ50 score?

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lovelycosyslippers · 15/02/2024 11:33

Mine is between 26 and 29 (I've taken it a few times). I'm trying to work out the significance of that. The cut-off seems to be given as 26 in some places and 32 in others. Similarly I've seen the population average given as 16 in some places and 22 in others.

I did post this in the ND Mumsnetter section but am also posting here for traffic.

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ZebraPensAreLife · 15/02/2024 17:30

Idratherbepaddleboarding · 15/02/2024 17:28

Yes that hurt my brain 😂. Honestly, they all just looks like eyes to me except the older ones looked worried and some were looking to the side which I took to mean suspicious.

I wasn’t sure whether they were trying to look suspicious or flirtatious!

They all just looked constipated to me

Clarice99 · 15/02/2024 17:36

45

I am diagnosed Autistic with ADHD (combined type)

HuntingoftheSnark · 15/02/2024 17:37

@CurlewKate I just scored 7 too - only did it because I found this thread interesting. I'm alarmed by your pain in the neck diagnosis though!

Barbarachicken · 15/02/2024 17:37

Diagnosed, I score 42. But some of the questions are daft! I need more info to answer some of them accurately, such as well what am I watching at the theatre/who's going to the party! The fact I need more info seems to prove my autism apparently 😆

Kalevala · 15/02/2024 17:47

HuntingoftheSnark · 15/02/2024 17:37

@CurlewKate I just scored 7 too - only did it because I found this thread interesting. I'm alarmed by your pain in the neck diagnosis though!

My sibling, who scored 13, is the life and soul of the party (and a complete pain in the neck to me).

CurlewKate · 15/02/2024 17:53

@HuntingoftheSnark We should start a club!

RestingPassportFace · 15/02/2024 17:56

That eye test is impossible.
I got 22

Redid the other one and got 50 on purpose (knowing what extremes they want - all those ones can be categorised into social-communication indicators/the tropes we've discussed upthread)
But the eyes one is very tricky to decipher.

AvengedQuince · 15/02/2024 17:58

lovelycosyslippers · 15/02/2024 17:21

I found that quite uncomfortable. My score was exactly half way between ASD average and NT average.

It's difficult! I can't get an accurate score as I first did it on a website where you have to note down the answers and score it yourself. I got the NT average but took 12 minutes to finish, so now I remember most of the answers.

MargaretThursday · 15/02/2024 18:08

ZebraPensAreLife · 15/02/2024 17:17

I just tried it - got 10

I got 26, average for adults. I was better at interpreting men than woman (75 to 60%) and better on negative emotions (80% to about 60% for both positive and neutral)

TheBirdintheCave · 15/02/2024 18:08

AvengedQuince · 15/02/2024 17:11

Has anyone tried this one?
https://psytests.org/arc/rmeten.html

I got 30! I am shocked 😱 For an autistic person I am apparently very good at reading intent.

Universalsnail · 15/02/2024 18:10

I scored 41 on the AQ and 190 on the raads-r

New2024 · 15/02/2024 18:15

RestingPassportFace · 15/02/2024 14:08

Oh sorry OP, you wanted those with ASC to do it.
I am neurotypical (although my kids would disagree) so 22 would tally with that (I think the cut off was 26).
I did this one.
Autism Spectrum Quotient (AQ) (psychology-tools.com)
Clearly they want you to say you definitely
prefer being alone
have meticulous attention to detail
struggle in social situations/cues/faces
are not visual/imaginative
sensory sensitive
prefer less interaction/like facts
gift for numbers

Edited

I got 9 and I don’t feel I ought to have done. Whilst I don’t think I’m ND You absolutely love my own company which usually sends off survey alarm bells 😂

InattentiveADHD · 15/02/2024 18:15

AvengedQuince · 15/02/2024 17:11

Has anyone tried this one?
https://psytests.org/arc/rmeten.html

I score "very high" on that surprisingly as I wasn't sure by quite a few of them and got them through the process of elimination ie I could see it wasn't a "negative" emotion and there was only one positive option. I very often have to ask my DH what "that looks means" when watching TV although I don't notice having this issue irl tbh.

My autistic DS did a social skills programme when he was younger and it was noted in that he assesses whether someone is happy by looking at their mouth rather than the eyes which is apparently common in autistic people (or that was the thinking back then anyway!). I definitely can see happiness in someone's eyes and know when something is a "proper" smile or not.

Universalsnail · 15/02/2024 18:16

AvengedQuince · 15/02/2024 17:11

Has anyone tried this one?
https://psytests.org/arc/rmeten.html

15 ...but tbh I don't know how I even got that as I felt I was wildly guessing every time 😂

TheBirdintheCave · 15/02/2024 18:19

Got my ADHD husband to give it a go too and he got 21 🤷🏻‍♀️

InattentiveADHD · 15/02/2024 18:19

@ZebraPensAreLife

"I wasn’t sure whether they were trying to look suspicious or flirtatious!"

Yes! Those ones were so tricky to decide between! I always think flirtatious if it's a "happy" side eye and suspicious if it's a "negative" side eye. But not always easy to tell.

Dancerprancer19 · 15/02/2024 18:20

26
I don’t consider myself autistic but I do have another ND which probably has overlapping features.

Keepingittogetherstepbystep · 15/02/2024 18:46

Not dx but been referred in October. Got 47

The eye one is weird as there no don't know options so was forced to guess most of them. All I keep thinking was is the Prince William 😂

FloorWipes · 15/02/2024 19:39

Usually about 34-36 and the AQ test and I got 32 on the eyes test, which I've also done before with similar results. Waiting on my ADOS results.

dottieautie · 15/02/2024 19:48

Formally diagnosed and never required to do AQ anything as it was deemed unreliable.

iPreferBooks · 15/02/2024 19:51

Formally diagnosed and got 42 on the AQ one Smile
Those eye ones are really hard - I only get the obvious ones like happy, sad + angry

underneaththeash · 15/02/2024 20:53

MargaretThursday · 15/02/2024 15:17

I just did it and scored 21. I would say that I am NT, although not particularly sociable and am very mathematical, so about what I'd have expected.

I agree with the comments that there's some I'd say "well it depends". But I also dislike having no "neither agree nor disagree", because I feel it forces me into making an answer when I may genuinely not feel strongly either way. I like museums and theatres for example. I wouldn't say I'd go to one over another.

As did I and I'm definitely not autistic. They need to add a neutral box in the middle as sometimes my answer wasn't one or the other. Oh and I have aphantasia too.

greenapple123 · 15/02/2024 21:23

" Any scores of 26 or greater indicate the presence of autistic traits; the higher the score, the more autistic traits you have.
Furthermore, 79.3% of autistic people score 32 or higher (whereas only 2% of controls do), so scores of 32 and above are particularly significant. The AQ is particularly sensitive in distinguishing between autistic and non-autistic adult females, as 92.3% of autistic females scored 32 or higher (compared to 1% of the control group).[9]
Do note that no single test is conclusive, and not every autistic person necessarily scores above the defined threshold on each test. If you score low on the AQ but still think you could be autistic, try taking a few other autism tests "

from https://embrace-autism.com/autism-spectrum-quotient/#What_does_my_score_mean

ChocolateRat · 15/02/2024 22:29

Weirdly I have no problem at all with the Mind in the Eyes test; dunno what exactly I scored, now, but I remember that it was better than the average non-autistic.

But the thing is, IIRC they're pretty much pictures cut from magazines, I guess actors or models or similar, trained in using their faces to convey particular mental states on demand, using both universal human expressions and culturally-specific and art-form-specific conventions. And the person is often chosen for a job because their face and eyes happen to almost inherently convey particular emotional states (e.g. someone with "sad eyes" which just look like that anyway, because of the eyelid shape). They've been instructed to perform a certain scenario/feeling/whatever, and they're consciously, deliberately and non-spontaneously configuring their faces to communicate a mental state, in a way that will come through even through a still photo.

I think, if I'm remembering right, they then got some non-autistics to interpret the meaning of the eye cutouts they selected, to produce a "correct" answer, and then added some wrong answers for the test? Basically, "reading" these eyes isn't much like interpreting faces/eyes in real life (those ones move , and are in 3D, and are attached to a whole person, and aren't portraying a simple character for a media product). You don't get the "correct" answer by being able to tell what the person is thinking, but by being able to read a stylised performance in the same way the majority do. A matter of cracking the code for which facial arrangements are conventionally used and perceived, in our society's media, for communicating the impression of which mental states — regardless of any actual inner mental state. It seems to test how closely autistics can approximate the interpretations of non-autistics, of a particular type of media. You might as well do it with Noh theatre, or any other human creative output with particular conventions.

I know for some autistics this is still incredibly difficult, or even impossible, no easier than reading real emotions and mental states on the faces and bodies of real human beings in front of them. I have family members who are incapable of reading any but the most obvious facial expressions, and cannot detect fakery at all. But for me, the media conventions that Mind in the Eyes tests knowledge of and ability to interpret are things I find much easier than actual real people's actual real nonverbal communication.

One of my ✨things✨ has always been language and communication. Like a lot of people, when younger I tried to analyse the fuck out of how human beings, more specifically human beings in my society, intentionally and unintentionally encode thoughts and feelings in the position, tension and movement of facial muscles, the movement of skin and eyes, positions of various body parts, and other nonverbal means. I paid attention to media portrayals, took note of other people's use of the codes, looked at myself in the mirror while practising conveying messages with my face, read as much as I could about the subject, learnt to convincingly fake a Duchenne smile, and so on.

I'm still not great at interpreting the involuntary stuff, or seeing the subtle communication behind the surface layer one, but the Mind in the Eyes test plays right into one of my most lasting fascinations 🤣

Idratherbepaddleboarding · 15/02/2024 22:34

@ChocolateRat also being multiple choice makes it easier as you can kind of select the obviously negative or positive emotion so it’s a process of elimination rather than actually knowing how they’re feeling. If they just showed the eyes and asked you I’d probably just go with happy, sad or erm looking out of the side of their eyes.

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