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Irish in the UK - what are the things that it took you ages to realise people don't say here.

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ConflictedCheetah · 09/02/2024 19:49

Inspired by the thread about Pancake Tuesday.

That thread has cracked me up because SO many posters are insisting no one EVER calls pancake Tuesday - it's Pancake Day - and sayu it's weird and wanky to call it that. And then all the Irish people on the thread are like ' wait, we've always called it that and never noticed that no one else did.

So what else you got?

For me, and I'm here 20 years, I only found out about a year ago that no one here calls a birth certificate a 'birth cert'. My English husband thought it was proper weird that I kept saying that. I had never picked up that it wasn't a thing! I think Irish people are so used to talking about the Leaving Cert or Junior Cert etc. that the Cert but feels natural. DH says no.

What other ways have I been unknowingly embarrassing myself for 20 years?

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EarringsandLipstick · 10/02/2024 11:03

Sure January (with Mrs Brown as your reference point, how can you go wrong 😂)

Believe what you want; in reference to your first reply to me: nach bhfuil múineadh ar bith ort?

januaryjan · 10/02/2024 11:06

EarringsandLipstick · 10/02/2024 11:03

Sure January (with Mrs Brown as your reference point, how can you go wrong 😂)

Believe what you want; in reference to your first reply to me: nach bhfuil múineadh ar bith ort?

That's Nice.

mikado1 · 10/02/2024 11:18

ChickenAndHamPie · 10/02/2024 10:54

'well to wear' when someone's got a new dress or jumper etc. English partner was flummoxed by that one.
So many words for drunk - locked, ossified, langered etc.
'Making strange' is definitely one that many English people don't get at all

Well wear surely?

WhereDoesThisToiletGo · 10/02/2024 11:29

Not sure if this is Belfast /Northern Ireland /everywhere in Ireland...
"Bout ye" (hello, how are you)
"Sticking out" (I'm very well thank you)

Alalalalalongalalalalalonglonglilong · 10/02/2024 11:32

EarringsandLipstick · 10/02/2024 09:14

Genuinely never heard it! Whereabouts are you? I've lived in Dublin and Belfast
Not being snarky, but how?!

It's used ... everywhere. (I'm from Limerick, have lived in Cork, now live in Dublin, work in Kildare ...!)

I mean, its colloquial use is lessened now as Ireland has become more secular as it is linked to Catholic (or rather Christian) beliefs.

This is in relation to Shrove Tuesday...

I think its a generational thing. As a child in 80s (and presumably earlier times) in a Catholic environment it was Shrove Tuesday. That was a time when Ash Wednesday was a big deal, if you passed someone on the street by 5pm with no ashes they would stop to explain they were getting the late mass somewhere else, not having ashes was almost a source of scandal. We used to eat pancakes on Shrove Tuesday and it gradually morphed to Pancake Tuesday. I'm not sure when exactly but it was commercial. I blame the 'don't forget the pancakes on jif lemon day' ads! Remember those? My teenage son now would never say Shrove Tuesday, it's completely gone.

Alalalalalongalalalalalonglonglilong · 10/02/2024 11:37

OnOtherPlanets · 10/02/2024 10:53

I was going to link Hairy Baby. Lots of their archive T-shirts especially date you to exactly your peers. DH has a motheaten ‘Who’s taking the horse to France?’ one. I have a ‘Who said Mass?’ one somewhere.

Some of them involve significant amounts of explanation to foreigners, like WOODEN SPOON SURVIVOR or ISN’T THERE A GRAND STRETCH IN THE EVENINGS. Or THE ORIGINAL J-LO over a photo of Johnny Logan.

https://www.hairybaby.com/t-shirts?page=2

Thanks, wasn't sure if we were allowed link.

I also got my Roscommon pal a mug with a pic of Jarvis Cocker: 'I want to live like Roscommon people'

AMuser · 10/02/2024 11:45

Alalalalalongalalalalalonglonglilong · 10/02/2024 11:37

Thanks, wasn't sure if we were allowed link.

I also got my Roscommon pal a mug with a pic of Jarvis Cocker: 'I want to live like Roscommon people'

You’ve included an Irishism here “allowed link” rather than “allowed to link” 😃

As I’m sure has been said upthread many of our sentence constructions etc relate to the Irish language.

I’ve always found English people offering me a “drink” at 10M in their houses v odd. To me you’d always offer tea. Drink is DRINK!! (fr Jack voice) ie alcohol. If they wanted to offer you a soft fizzy drink my older Irish would say “would you take a mineral”.

DavidBowiesEyeMakeUpArtist · 10/02/2024 11:46

Joolsin · 10/02/2024 00:29

Bold meaning naughty rather than courageous!!
And we say sick for any kind of illness, rather than "poorly", which is such a weedy word!

Ha! Yes! My parents are Irish but I was born and raised in the UK; no Irish accent etc so you wouldn't think I was anything but English if you heard me speak.
I don't really use any of these Irish sayings / words (most seem weird in my accent) but I am familiar with / understand them all......
I have always hate the word poorly andd I never, ever use I but didn't know why it makes me twitch so much!!!! Perhaps this is it - it is just so weedy!!!! That's it! 😂

Inextremis · 10/02/2024 11:56

C'm here to me now
C'm here while I tell ya
Pass out on the road
Howya

LadyEloise1 · 10/02/2024 12:01

Love 😂 "....I got my Roscommon pal a mug with a pic of Jarvis Cocker; I want to live like Roscommon people'

Pablova · 10/02/2024 12:10

OnOtherPlanets · 10/02/2024 10:53

I was going to link Hairy Baby. Lots of their archive T-shirts especially date you to exactly your peers. DH has a motheaten ‘Who’s taking the horse to France?’ one. I have a ‘Who said Mass?’ one somewhere.

Some of them involve significant amounts of explanation to foreigners, like WOODEN SPOON SURVIVOR or ISN’T THERE A GRAND STRETCH IN THE EVENINGS. Or THE ORIGINAL J-LO over a photo of Johnny Logan.

https://www.hairybaby.com/t-shirts?page=2

The Matt Damon tee shirt 😀 No one outside of Ireland would get WTF that’s about.

Awaywiththeferries123 · 10/02/2024 12:11

ThirtyThrillionThreeTrees · 10/02/2024 10:46

Do be doing.....drives a lot of Irish people crazy as well!!!

Are you from Munster?

😂 No, Leinster

Lucytheloose · 10/02/2024 12:13

Glittering1 · 10/02/2024 08:15

I will in me hole
Gway outta that
Your messin
I couldn't give a flying fuck
Give over
In all ( sure I've made the tea in all)
Gwan
Gerrup outta that

I've never heard the first, but am definitely going to start using it!

Lucytheloose · 10/02/2024 12:20

EarringsandLipstick · 10/02/2024 10:55

@januaryjan

🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️

Are you actually telling me, my family and my local region how we speak. Arrogant much?

No. I'm not. As I've said numerous times.

That's how it is spoken. Pronounced. What you hear. And so on.

It is not short for 'in all' which was what the first poster I was responding to used an example of an Irish saying that wouldn't be understood in England: 'in all'.

I used Doyle and Casey as strong examples of writing where the Dublin vernacular is used so you can see exactly how the idiom is represented. Of course other writers exist; not so many as good examples of this particular way of speaking but consult who you wish.

The phrase 'in all' would make no sense.

I can't help your struggle with reading comprehension but there's no need at all to be so rude. (Except that it's MN where there always has to be such doses)

Whom you wish.

Awaywiththeferries123 · 10/02/2024 12:20

Lucytheloose · 10/02/2024 12:13

I've never heard the first, but am definitely going to start using it!

Oh that’s a big one in our house!

Also ‘You can stick it up your hole’ meaning you can keep it, but if you were annoyed at the person.

JaneJeffer · 10/02/2024 12:23

It's n all as in rock n roll short for and all.

StockpotSoup · 10/02/2024 12:25

KittytheHare · 10/02/2024 00:28

Drives me mad when English mnettrs criticise gotten, as in I had gotten/forgotten etc. Perfectly acceptable in Ireland and used on proper telly like the 6pm news!

But English MNers aren’t in Ireland, are they? That’s kind of the point!

Julianne65 · 10/02/2024 12:40

We always called the hall the lobby when I was growing up. When I say it now people think I’m trying to be posh but I’m from a scum bag Scottish family.

ColleenDonaghy · 10/02/2024 12:48

StockpotSoup · 10/02/2024 12:25

But English MNers aren’t in Ireland, are they? That’s kind of the point!

If they said they don't use it or even that they don't like it that would be fair enough. But they say it's wrong, or a modern Americanism, both of which are incorrect.

oldperson1 · 10/02/2024 12:59

Sorry haven’t read all the thread but why is it called the press and not the cupboard?

ColleenDonaghy · 10/02/2024 13:05

oldperson1 · 10/02/2024 12:59

Sorry haven’t read all the thread but why is it called the press and not the cupboard?

Why is it called a cupboard and not a press elsewhere? Grin

(Afraid I don't know the roots of either word.)

CharlotteStreetW1 · 10/02/2024 13:22

It's more pronunciation than vocabulary but my Irish room mate at uni used to say necklAce with emphasis on an ay sound, rather than the usual neckless (not quite but not sure how else to type it) type pronunciation

My MIL (born and bred Londoner) says "mountayne" and bargayne (also broccoleye 🤷‍♀️). No idea where she got it from!

My boss is of European descent and pronounces any number of words wrong but a current one, possibly pertinent to this thread, is a client called Nuala. Knowing him as I do, I wrote a note on the file saying "pronounced Noola". Nope, still calls the poor woman Nu-arla 🙄

Anyway. Just booked flights for this year's trip back to West Cork. It will be "deadly" 😊

marshmallowfinder · 10/02/2024 13:23

Lucy377 · 10/02/2024 01:38

English people call the ground outside the 'floor'.

In Ireland the 'floor' is only indoors.

Only ones that don't know better! It's definitely ground outside, floor inside, in England.

marshmallowfinder · 10/02/2024 13:31

Rashers=bacon.

ickky · 10/02/2024 13:59

This reminds me of my Gran. From Letterkenny.

Come here ta me = come over here.

She also called me her little wee lovely. (I was neither) 😄

I thought it was Shrove Tuesday?