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Scenes in films that are so illogical it really grates.

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Yetmorebeanstocount · 06/02/2024 20:23

Eat Pray Love.
The two women have just discussed eating, muffin-tops, body image, etc, and Julia Roberts says to enjoy the pizza and just buy bigger jeans.

So in the next scene they are buying jeans, but doing that stereotypical-joke thing of lying on the changing room floor trying to pull up the zip on too-tight jeans.
Why? - that totally defeats the object.

I guess the male writer/director thought it would be a fun scene, that is how he imagines women always shop for jeans.
It just makes no sense in the context of the film.

What scenes really annoy you?

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Mothership4two · 08/02/2024 08:52

@Itslegitimatesalvage that is literally the point of this whole thread. Of course people understand that different locations are used in films. OP asked what annoyed posters.

I mentioned upthread characters marooned on desert islands (such as Lost) not losing weight or changing hairstyles. Obviously I don't really expect the actors to diet for the sake of a TV series!

Itslegitimatesalvage · 08/02/2024 08:55

sashh · 08/02/2024 08:40

Sorry it is Hadrian's wall but that bit is known as Sycamore gap.

They are literally walking along Hadrian’s wall. That’s what it is. Different parts have their own wee nicknames, but it’s Hadrian’s wall. Not sure what you were trying to achieve with your post?

Except it’s a bloody filming location. In the movie. Robin and Azeem are not walking along Hadrian’s wall. They are walking along a wall on Robin’s land. He says “this is my
land.” It’s just a nice location with nice scenery. They didn’t walk from Dover to Hadrian’s wall:

NoBinturongsHereMate · 08/02/2024 09:03

Winnading · 08/02/2024 06:20

But it's an undetectable sub, if they didnt sing, they wouldn't be noticed?
And they needed to be noticed for them to defect?

It's a while since I've seen it, but that was my takeaway.

No, they didn't need to be noticed - that made things far more complicated.

Without being chased they would simply have 'developed a radiation leak', chucked the crew off somewhere random (perhaps near a fishing trawler or cruise ship), 'sunk', and sailed undetected into the US port of their choice.

IcakethereforeIam · 08/02/2024 09:10

Perhaps the locations appearing as somewhere entirely different should be in the credits. Something like

Kevin Costner - Robin Hood
Robin's accent - diverse
Sycamore Gap - Robin's back garden

It could catch on. They could award an Oscar and everything.

SheilaFentiman · 08/02/2024 09:14

I think if a film is set in a fictional
universe eg Hogwarts we can excuse turning a corner and moving from Gloucester to Oxford.

But if the location is integral to the film eg Notting Hill, it’s quite jarring!

Speedweed · 08/02/2024 09:24

The random conversation about how women 'need' sex. Appears in many, many films, like a strange attempt by male writers to beat the Bechdel test but with no idea what women talk about. Characters usually required to suspend all sense for this conversation too.

Prime example is in 'It's Complicated', where Meryl Streep's character is told by her middle aged female friends that she needs to have sex to sort out her life problems (eh?) and then one of her friends chimes in with how she read about a woman whose vagina grew over because she didn't have enough sex.

These are supposedly intelligent, middle aged women, but it makes me cringe every time.

BouleDeSuif · 08/02/2024 09:33

I always assumed Morgan Freeman's character did a caesarian, because he said he'd seen it done on horses.

Zodfa · 08/02/2024 09:36

Itslegitimatesalvage · 08/02/2024 08:25

Jesus. It isn’t Hadrian’s wall in the film universe. They aren’t walking along Hadrian’s wall. They are walking along a random wall on Robin’s land near to his castle. In the film world, it isn’t Hadrian’s wall. It’s just a filming location which looks good, gave them the terrain they wanted for the scene and the tree they needed for the boy running from the guards etc.

I cannot believe the number of people who cannot understand this and keep repeating it.

In world war z, they’re in “New York” but they’re sitting on a road beside George Square in Glasgow. The zombies attack and go running all over George Square and then through some other part of New York. Because, in the film, it’s not George Square. It’s just a nice filming location but it’s “somewhere in New York.” The zombies didn’t suddenly transport from Glasgow to American in a few paces, it’s just a filming location.

Filming locations do not always represent the actual location they are in real life. The scene at Hadrian’s wall is not at Hadrian’s wall. It’s just part of his route walking from Dover to his castle, made for a nice location with good scenery.

Im genuinely astounded that people don’t understand this.

But isn't the point that you can't walk from Dover to Nottingham (at least not in anything vaguely resembling a straight line) via any landscapes that look like that at all? The only way to rationalise it is to say the geography of England is completely different in the film's universe, which is a step too far for some people.

Emotionalsupportviper · 08/02/2024 09:39

I used to love Look and Learn @borntobequiet

I wish they'd republish it. It was brilliant!

Emotionalsupportviper · 08/02/2024 09:41

Iwasafool · 07/02/2024 20:00

You said it was the only time it happened, it wasn't and the Birkenhead isn't the only other example. Even if we only knew about the Titanic and the Birkenhead you can't possibly know what has happened on every shipwreck.

Pedants' Corner is over there. ➡

Emotionalsupportviper · 08/02/2024 09:46

Livingtothefull · 07/02/2024 20:28

Yes the film depicted him (it was actually FO Murdoch) as shooting one of the passengers and then himself....completely made up. He was a real person and all we really know is that he didn't survive.

Again I think that was really shabby. In reality he was in charge of loading passengers into the boats on one side of the ship, all the while knowing he himself probably wouldn't survive. That is imo as good a definition of heroism as any I have heard of (along with other crew members who did the same).

Was it too much to expect that his memory should have been treated with care, rather than traducing him?

Was it too much to expect that his memory should have been treated with care, rather than traducing him?

Absolutely!

If they thought the film needed this bit of "drama" (you mean there isn't enough in the sinking of the Titanic?), they could have created a character.

ErrolTheDragon · 08/02/2024 09:52

Jesus. It isn’t Hadrian’s wall in the film universe. They aren’t walking along Hadrian’s wall. They are walking along a random wall on Robin’s land near to his castle. In the film world, it isn’t Hadrian’s wall. It’s just a filming location which looks good, gave them the terrain they wanted for the scene and the tree they needed for the boy running from the guards etc.

I cannot believe the number of people who cannot understand this and keep repeating it.

Jesus. Of course everyone understands it's a filming location.Hmm The point is that it's jarring to everyone with the vaguest idea of English topography and history. If it's supposed to just be a bit of Robin's wall somewhere between Kent and the midlands, there must be loads of places which would have been a less bizarre choice than an iconic view at the wrong end of the country with the wrong sort of landscape and the wrong sort of wall!

IsadoraBathrobe · 08/02/2024 10:02

A PP mentioned about how annoying it is when different actors play the same character at different ages and they look nothing like each other. The German series ‘Dark’ on Netflix cuts back and forth in time and has a huge cast of characters but manages to do this brilliantly. With some of the characters you would swear they are the same person. The plot was a bit too bonkers for my liking but the acting was excellent!

Herbydacious876 · 08/02/2024 10:06

ErrolTheDragon · 08/02/2024 09:52

Jesus. It isn’t Hadrian’s wall in the film universe. They aren’t walking along Hadrian’s wall. They are walking along a random wall on Robin’s land near to his castle. In the film world, it isn’t Hadrian’s wall. It’s just a filming location which looks good, gave them the terrain they wanted for the scene and the tree they needed for the boy running from the guards etc.

I cannot believe the number of people who cannot understand this and keep repeating it.

Jesus. Of course everyone understands it's a filming location.Hmm The point is that it's jarring to everyone with the vaguest idea of English topography and history. If it's supposed to just be a bit of Robin's wall somewhere between Kent and the midlands, there must be loads of places which would have been a less bizarre choice than an iconic view at the wrong end of the country with the wrong sort of landscape and the wrong sort of wall!

I’m with Itslegitimatesalvage on this one! Seeing as the film was not marketed exclusively to Brits, and far more Americans and Australians (and loads more English speaking nations)
watched it than those with knowledge of English topography, the actual geographical location isn’t really relevant surely? People need to cultivate a bit of imagination imho.

SheilaFentiman · 08/02/2024 10:15

IsadoraBathrobe · 08/02/2024 10:02

A PP mentioned about how annoying it is when different actors play the same character at different ages and they look nothing like each other. The German series ‘Dark’ on Netflix cuts back and forth in time and has a huge cast of characters but manages to do this brilliantly. With some of the characters you would swear they are the same person. The plot was a bit too bonkers for my liking but the acting was excellent!

I thought the teenage Princess Elizabeth in The Crown WAS Claire Foy in really good make up, the resemblance was so good. And Karen Gillan's cousin as Young Amy Pond was inspired (though I assume we can't expect all actors to conveniently have actor relatives!)

Heather37231 · 08/02/2024 10:18

Me too @SheilaFentiman !

IcakethereforeIam · 08/02/2024 10:21

Something that really annoyed me, actually made me quite angry at the time. I think it's was Skyfall(?), the female character had just told Bond how she was trafficked as a child and had been a sex slave since,. Five minutes later she was naked in the shower when he perves in on her for a quick shag.

I know it's Bond, who was a rapey bastard, but....Jesus Christ!

I sincerely hope I missed something that makes this okay.

ErrolTheDragon · 08/02/2024 10:28

I've got plenty of imagination, thanks.Grin

But using an iconic scene as somewhere incongruous can tend to jolt you back to reality.

SheilaFentiman · 08/02/2024 10:34

Agree with both @ErrolTheDragon and @IcakethereforeIam

DdyDaisyDaresYou · 08/02/2024 10:41

Just to reiterate what another poster said, the Titanic officer portrayed as committing murder & then dying by suicide in the 1998 film wasn't Lieutenant Lightoller, but First Officer Murdoch.

Lightoller actually had a long & distinguished career, dying in the 50s.

How likely it is that William Murdoch did these things is a matter of conjecture. There isn't any evidence that he did, but there were rumours in the aftermath & it seems that Lightoller tried to protect Murdoch's posthumous reputation (at least according to Wikipedia!)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_McMaster_Murdoch

William McMaster Murdoch - Wikipedia

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_McMaster_Murdoch

Bunbryist · 08/02/2024 11:13

StockpotSoup · 07/02/2024 16:40

Any funeral scenes where other characters are pallbearers. Someone will say something like, “I know it’s going to be hard, but let’s do dad/mum/Gran proud, yeah?” - and then they hoist the coffin up like it’s a bag of feathers. Errr… there’s an actual dead body in there! Where do props teams think the phrase “dead weight” comes from? I’m not saying they should obtain an actual corpse, but couldn’t they at least bung a few bricks in?

I remember watching Lisa Dingle’s funeral in Emmerdale with my now ex and he was rolling his eyes like mad. He said he’d carried his Gran’s coffin and it/she weighed a ton, and she was barely a third of the size of Lisa.

We had this at my aunt's funeral. She had been ill for a long time and weighed next to nothing but the pall bearers had to negotiate a high kerb and half a dozen steps to get through the front door of the church,
When tackled about making a meal of it, it was pointed out that she may only have been six stone but the mahogany wardrobe she was wearing wasn't.

Bruisername · 08/02/2024 11:19

Can you imagine those pallbearers for the queen with the lead lined coffin

Blubbled · 08/02/2024 11:23

isitshe · 07/02/2024 17:35

Certainly unrealistic in Ireland.

It is indeed! People would think you're pure ignorant if you just hung up on them like they do in films and tv!

TheCadoganArms · 08/02/2024 11:23

Itslegitimatesalvage · 08/02/2024 08:55

They are literally walking along Hadrian’s wall. That’s what it is. Different parts have their own wee nicknames, but it’s Hadrian’s wall. Not sure what you were trying to achieve with your post?

Except it’s a bloody filming location. In the movie. Robin and Azeem are not walking along Hadrian’s wall. They are walking along a wall on Robin’s land. He says “this is my
land.” It’s just a nice location with nice scenery. They didn’t walk from Dover to Hadrian’s wall:

But using prominent national landmarks or well known attractions as supposedly benign backdrops for a scene is a distraction from the film universe you have been asked to buy into. Prince of Thieves was never supposed to be anything more then a bit of entertaining hokum so audiences are going to be a lot more forgiving with historical or geographic inaccuracies but now and again they push it too far. Even if you ignore the Hadrian's Wall scene the line uttered on the beach 'By nightfall we will celebrate your honour when we dine with my father' draws amusement as anyone with half a brain knows that such a journey is impossible in half a day.

MasterBeth · 08/02/2024 11:42

TheCadoganArms · 08/02/2024 11:23

But using prominent national landmarks or well known attractions as supposedly benign backdrops for a scene is a distraction from the film universe you have been asked to buy into. Prince of Thieves was never supposed to be anything more then a bit of entertaining hokum so audiences are going to be a lot more forgiving with historical or geographic inaccuracies but now and again they push it too far. Even if you ignore the Hadrian's Wall scene the line uttered on the beach 'By nightfall we will celebrate your honour when we dine with my father' draws amusement as anyone with half a brain knows that such a journey is impossible in half a day.

This is nonsense.

It's nothing to do with having half a brain or not.

  1. Prince of Thieves was made for, firstly, an American and then a global audience. You don't have to be stupid to not know the relative UK geography of Sherwood/Dover if you live in Colorado or South Korea.

  2. It's a movie. Suspend your disbelief. No-one can fire an arrow that well, either.

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