TW Suicide So sad bullying, Mia Janin

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I bloody hate hate hate social media. I hate it for adults I bloody hate it it for kids. It’s evil, it does no good. This poor child and this hopeless school.

Girl, 14, took her own life after ‘relentless’ bullying by boys at school

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/4bb096c9-441d-4418-9c7a-3fc68c29a79a?shareToken=6c74c41d3d330032b6c9cb87d983199d

It's awful 😔 I was bullied on a near daily basis for most of secondary school over 20 years ago, by a number of other kids, boys and girls alike. I dread to think what could have happened if social media had been a thing then.

I too was bullied at secondary school, I remember people writing stuff about me around the school. It turned out to be someone I thought was my best friend. Why does it happen. Just horrible.

I saw this. It made my blood run cold. Lots of things described in the evidence are the kinds of things DSS1 (yr7) describes as going on on his socials/at school. We've talked to him as finitum about the rights and wrongs of this, but he is too immature to not too along with the stuff I fear. We monitor his phone but snap etc... and he can delete stuff and I'm sure does. He never has anything positive to say about anyone and we don't like the way he speaks about certain kids, 'the geeks', ' the ugly girls' and whoever else. I can see how this gets out of hand and tragedies happen.

Poor little soul. Hope those nasty little bastards feel bad the rest of their lives. I doubt it though.

Yes. I look at her and think about all the others. And- I think it evidences perfectly that it’s not about you it’s about them. I considered myself- and was often told- fat, freckley, and many other bad things. I see that pretty girl and remember it was nothing to do with what I looked like.

I don’t know what to say, @piscofrisco

Id seriously be looking for support with techniques to help him access his empathy.

I'd suggest you come down a bit harder if he's being vile to people already and he's only in year 7.

Dreadful. I tried to kill myself aged 12 after a similar campaign of bullying by boys at school. My parents kept me at home briefly then forced me back to school and told me to shut up about the bullying because it was upsetting my mother. It caused lifelong problems and I’m still having therapy.

I blame the parents - they knew what was going on and didn’t act. A child who is that distressed will be showing obvious signs. Yes the school should have acted, but at the end of the day the parents are responsible for the child, and they have the ultimate power to remove the child from school.

This is awful. I think social media makes it worse as the bullying just carries on out of school.
My DC has told me about one of his classmates who was experiencing this - he was worried about her and wanted to help but didn't know what to do. She's moved to a different class now, I hope that's stopped it.

That is absolutely heartbreaking. Poor child and poor family!

There is nothing I despise more than bullying, except perhaps complacent schools that don't deal with it properly. i have first hand experience of a school that was useless and one that was brilliant. The difference in the outcome for the child is phenomenal.

I didn’t get the sense the parents did know until she asked to be removed.

our school does seem to come down hard on bullies. But certainly I’m hearing more about it now. My DD felt a bit left out during a recent school trip as she doesn’t have tik tok. And during a break they could use their phones and she was texting me when her (and thank god) another girl were sitting alone while the other’s tik tok’d. I get the feeling parents don’t what their kids to feel left out. But at the same time can’t judge their maturity and whether they should be allowed Snapchat and Tik Tok. I’m really trying to keep my yr 7 DD off it. Making her life very busy with netball instead!

There's a thread running at the moment about whether to let a 12yo have Snapchat. I said no for these very reasons.

DS is turning 16 in a couple of weeks and has thankfully come through school unscathed, I can't really stop him having social media at this age but he knows I'd hit the roof if I ever found out he was bullying anyone.

I really hate the headline the BBC have used for this story. What these boys did can't be dismissed as 'making fun' of this poor girl, it was serious and sustained sexual bullying. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-68071440

So heartbreaking. Snapchat on tik tok are awful for children. And these boys should all be punished, bullying, revenge porn, harassment and manslaughter I think

So more than just bullying or “making fun”

Heartbreaking 💔 The law needs changing. Schools can be very poor in dealing with bullies. Such a beautiful young girl and her poor family.

We raised it as a concern with his mum with a view to raising it with the school. She wouldn't hear of it. Dh is considering what to do next. Though I don't in all honestly think he's much worse than lots of other kids in yr 7, he just doesn't hide it as well. And therein lies the issue.

Unbearable.

Anyone else think that future generations will judge us hard for allowing our children unfettered access to all the misogynistic horrors of the internet.

the blame lies almost entirely with the parents of the bullies allowing them presumably unmonitored access to the internet and to social media - its shocking and it's just going to get worse and worse. The kids and the parents need prosecuting

Remove social media from his phone. I didn't allow DS to have any at that age. You have to be tough and do things they don't like sometimes. Although I appreciate it's difficult with separated parents as they may have different views.

couldn't agree more @piscofrisco and additionally using the excuse that all other kids have it is no excuse at all. I think the courts should be tougher about this too. They could prosecute the parents as the phone contract is likely in their name too

A boy at the school I went to committed suicide. The school brushed it under the carpet and said 'they had an anti-bullying policy and the kid was probably just a bit over-sensitive'. And another girl was bullied for having a disabled cousin.
Sorry but just a bit oversensitive kids don't jump in front of commuter trains.

The Head who was in charge when I was there (now over 20 years ago) would not have stood for it. He was firm but fair, and even the worst kids respected him. The current one is weak and entitled.

Blaming the bereaved parents, great. Just when I think this place can't get any worse.

So awful, I think avoiding those apps can be a good idea

We haven't come far in terms of bullying since I was at school

Rip sweet butterfly.