TW Suicide So sad bullying, Mia Janin

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I bloody hate hate hate social media. I hate it for adults I bloody hate it it for kids. It’s evil, it does no good. This poor child and this hopeless school.

Girl, 14, took her own life after ‘relentless’ bullying by boys at school

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/4bb096c9-441d-4418-9c7a-3fc68c29a79a?shareToken=6c74c41d3d330032b6c9cb87d983199d

I was horrifically bullied in secondary school.

He needs to come off all social media, now. If he carries on, take him out of the school. You need to get a handle on it, instead of letting it slide.

Her mum died three months later dad is on his own now. It’s just tragic.

Oh goodness that poor man.

Shame on those boys. Shame on their parents. How they could do those things and think is normal is beyond me. Mia’s poor poor father to deal with the loss of a daughter and a wife.

“The inquest heard that the Snapchat group was deleted after Mia’s death at the request of Rabbi Cohen, then deputy head at JFS and school safeguarding lead.”
https://www.jewishnews.co.uk/schoolboys-made-fun-of-jfs-girl-in-group-chat-ahead-of-her-death-inquest-told/
Snapchat deleted but what consequences for those boys?
Were they reported to the police who could potentially do something under the Malicious Communications Act? I feel this is potentially a case of the school putting its reputation before justice for this poor girl and her family.

With all due respect, all parents are equally at fault in that sense. Can anyone honestly know if their children are making mean comments online? And for anyone who is bullied online, it's happening merely because they are online. If they deleted SM the problem is solved. Their parents could prevent the problem too. The whole point is parents on either end don't know and i think it's wrong to blame either set.
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@Alalalalalongalalalalalonglonglilong - I agree that parents on both sides need to be involved. I just don't understand why any parent wouldn't monitor what their child is doing online what they are accessing and what they are doing on social media. Its negligence. If my daughter was being bullied on social media then yes I would also remove social media

Great young men growing up in the world eh 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️

Wow, that's so judgemental. How could you possibly know what the parents knew?

The news specifically said she wasn't showing signs of suicide and that she hadnt got a mental health diagnosis.

It's possible this was a long standing bullying campaign, but it sounded more like an issue with boys teasing her after a tik tok video she did, according to the news.

I know it's hard but you can't project in such a hurtful way. What if her mum sees this? Do you now think they're hurting enough?!

Her mum wont see this. She died three months later☹️ The dad said they always felt like outsiders at the school as they werent the right kind of Jewishness. I think he meant it was very cliquey.

the chap who was in The Traitors who went out recently Zack didnt exactly have glowing things to say about JFS either. My close friend said status is everything there the kids are very competitive.

@EachandEveryone what is the right side of Jewishness?

how would I know?

Really sad article https://www.jewishnews.co.uk/what-really-happened-to-mia-janin-her-father-shares-the-familys-unspeakable-tragedy/

“I’m not talking about all the UK or even all of London, but there are people in north-west London who are cliquey, self-entitled and decide who their children should socialise with and if your postcode fits. This was my family’s experience when we arrived in London, and it continued. That’s why we preferred the acceptance of the Chabad congregation. For them it doesn’t matter where you come from, you’re a Jew.”
“I have nothing to lose,” he says. “No one took accountability for what happened to Mia and nothing has changed. The same governors were still at the school. It had happened before. If bullies get impunity, they don’t learn any lessons.”

Interesting that her phone was "lost" by the met. 😡

Lots of boys from the school having a group chat sharing nudes of their underage female peers. I'm going to make the assumption a fair few of those 60+ boys had wealthy parents. No evidence from her phone as it was lost, and the head didn't bother to look into the group chat, just asked the boys to leave it/disband it.

I despair. 😡

Poor Dad losing his child and then his wife too.

There should be much stronger punishment for cyber/social media bullying.

I don't blame social media. I get on fine with SM, as do both my ds's. The schools handling of the whole situation sounds abysmal and negligent.

This. But sadly I don't think they will, because I think future generations will just continue to get worse and more misogynistic 😪

Why do the bullies never get named in these cases? Always protected, but not the girls and women they abused and drove to suicide (apparently they called Mia’s group of friends the suicide squad. So worrying the massive rise in dangerous misogyny. The parents of the bullies also need holding to account.

How awful for Mia and her family.
To think that suicide was her only perceived option.
That gorgeous beautiful girl with so much life ahead.
Her poor dad lost his wife too.
A real tragedy.

Then why are you posting on social media?

I was massively bullied at school from age 12 onwards. Three students committed suicide at my school. Once I had my own son, I got a second job and send him to a quiet, Montessori private school. He’s so happy there and we all get on with the parents and children. It’s a lovely and nurturing community. I’m not saying private is the way, but out of a lot of the schools in my area, it was the only way. It’s expensive but I never want him to go through what I did. I talk to some other parents who think bullying is “healthy” or good for them. I disagree. I just want him to be happy and enjoy learning. If what that family went through happened to my son, I don’t think I would be as forgiving to those boys and their families.

Coroner has said gender based billing is still a problem at Jewish school.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13135259/amp/Gender-based-bullying-problem-Jewish-school-Mia-Janin-14-driven-suicide-targeted-social-media-male-pupils-coroner-warns.html