If AI is going to eventually replace jobs, what will happen with society

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I know its still early days in the AI/robots taking over BUT….If you cannot get another job (because its been replaced by AI), how will you live? If you have a mortgage to pay etc. will your job role be taken into account soon when getting a mortgage as to how likely it will be available to pay it off vs AI taking the role on. I do wonder what will happen with my children and how the world will be

If say 50% of jobs disappeared then those people would have to be helped by the goverment to not be homeless and starve. So I imagine massive tax levels on people
using AI/Robots to reflect the massive savings when they are not employing vast work forces.

If technology keeps developing then they will be just different jobs. Air hostess on space ship to mars kind of thing!

I think as with everything to do with AI's future trajectory, it depends on the input and basic structure to the whole system and what safeguards are put in place.

As far as I can tell at the moment it's lacking executive function (the part of your brain that pulls everything together) and that would mean it currently always needs to be directed/organised by someone. If that aspect is developed, we will theoretically be redundant. If AI becomes sentient (even further down the road), questions arise about whether it will want to work for us or whether we will be a problem to be solved, which is why getting its ethical basis and underlying theoretical approach right is fundamental. Unfortunately governments and tech firms are currently ignoring this with a "Yippee-ki-yay" approach.

If we fecklessly let it do anything and everything without any sort of ringfenced jobs or professions, I think we will be looking at 90%+ unemployment when it develops functional capabilities in areas that only humans can currently do. Whether we build a wealth sharing system that supports everyone or let our population dwindle will be the biggest question (and whether we are capable of implementing a redistribution system fast enough to save everyone).

Also questions about what currency actually is, whether the current definition is still relevant in an AI world, how things are valued etc will complicate the whole thing.

Certain types of people will need to be retained in order to keep things maintained and do the work that AI physically won't be able to do. I think there will be a slave class who will be used to service the needs of the rich and satisfy their need for abuse, killing and sexual violence.
Everyone else will be quietly exterminated, allowed to die, not allowed to reproduce etc. until the population of the world is small enough for just the rich to exist and a few others to service their needs/keep things running. AI will closely monitor whatever workers there are in order to keep them in line.

I worry about this stuff too. Even if it takes over and we all end up unemployed, those developing or working in AI will be so heavily taxed and will eventually have no customer base that it will be ultimately pointless. It will result in the destruction of society for absolutely nothing.

I don't understand technology really but already it sickens me that a small number of tech companies are making massive profits out of social media apps, smart phone use etc. Some of these are causing huge divisions in society, contributing to MH problems, sexual violence, political radicalism and a million other problems and we allow it happen. I fear it will be the same with AI, nothing good can come of it.

If people don't have jobs they will have a lot more time to get offended about tiny slights and post random crap on internet forums.

Anyone not useful will be shipped off to another planet.

My view is that the potential impact of AI is being massively overhyped. In the 80s, people predicted flying cars and time travel were just a few decades away - this is the modern day equivalent. (And I say this as somebody educated to post-graduate level in computer engineering).

That's not to say that AI isn't a revolution - it will absolutely change our lives - but think of it in terms of how life has changed in the past 50 years due to technology, not the world becoming some unrecognisable dystopia. Someone said "AI won't steal your job but the person using AI to do it will" - I think that's a far more realistic prediction.

It could be that many, many jobs are replaced by AI. I’m hoping the creative ones won’t be but I wouldn’t bank on that.
You will need humans to oversee that AI is running correctly, see supermarket self check outs where a human runs from pillar to post sorting out all the issues.
I envisage AI replacing many health care staff. What’s to stop you checking in to a machine in A&E, answering questions and a machine deciding how much of a priority you are?
Whats to stop AI being used to teach pupils? Maybe remotely to save costs.
We need to stop and think. Who is going to be supporting the economy by working and paying taxes? I seriously doubt this government would impose taxes on the company’s using AI. The working population will shrink if we are not careful.
Why should they support those who don’t work?
It could lead to emigration of the people we really need to keep.
Unfortunately it could lead to the education, thoughtful people deciding against having children.
The ‘state’ cannot continue to provide the level of support it does.
However, in terms of self driving cars I say bring it on. It could lead to more community type vehicles such as shared mini buses taking groups from A to B according to real demand. Also less dickhead drivers on the road.

A.I will change our world. The vast majority of jobs will be affected negatively, with only a few areas actually benefitting.

If your job involves data entry, you will be unemployed. Same with clerical, advisory and consultancy work. All redundant. I think most people are underestimating the change that is coming.

Look at how different out society and industry is now compared to just twenty years ago when the Internet was in it's infancy and smartphones were Sci-fi. A similar, but greater change is coming over the next ten years, we need to be ready for it.

Look at self service tills, a few years ago they were a new thing, now we use them without a second thought. A decade from now we will think nothing of going online to "speak with" the A.I consultancy at our doctors surgery. We will have people saying how they prefer machines because the A.I is predictable and comfortable. People complain today that they find phone calls aggressive and prefer a text, well by 2034 they will be saying that having to interact with real people is too aggressive and all companies need to have A.I customer services. So that right there is a huge chunk of unemployment.

Somebody up-thread mentioned that they wanted driverless cars. This is one area where the laws of unintended consequences is being ignored. Driverless cars will become "lucky bags" for criminals. They will just wait on the roadside, step out in front of your car, which WILL stop, and they will take what ever they want from the passengers. Who won even be able to drive away. I don't even want to think about what certain people would do when parents put their kids into those cars to go to school. Literally delivering their children to the predators waiting at the lights.

Also, the biggest issue I think will be oversight, and consequently control by less benign elements of out government. A cashless society, coupled with A.I controlling everything, recording everything, will potentially be devastating for civil rights. The UK already used the Connect Supercomputer to monitor our behaviour, and has being doing so since 2012, but A.I would drive a terrifying growth in capability. It's not all the sunny uplands we are being sold.

Who were the people throwing shoes into the machines when looms were introduced?
There are always periods of upheaval and change in society. No need to panic.

AI won't replace jobs, but someone using AI will replace someone who isn't.

You guys read ‘Homo Deus’ by Yuval Harrari? It’s a whole book on this subject.
As a brief summary, initially nature ruled, humans were at its mercy. And then, for a long time, humans were at the mercy of the gods. And then humans found a new ‘religion’, humanism, in which the human is the god. And the big data and the algorithms that make humans’ life easy (satnav, self check out, the whole world at the touch of a button) change from being mere tools to being self evolving.

An AI generated image is always going to be better than whatever I might be able to produce. My creativity and the process that entails is going to take longer and not be as good. So rather than buying my creation, you’ll go for something that meets your expectations perfectly and much faster and cheaper than what I might produce.

I think the answer lies in education and societal norms.
We lose skills and the capacity to problem solve in favour of convenience. Nothing is allowed to be a struggle or take time these days, we want more and faster, we want to live longer and put minimal effort in. For what? What does it leave for us to do? Where will we take our pleasures from and how will we overcome things if everything is AI and there?

I don't think AI will so much replace people as deskill professionals. To some extent this is already happening, and AI will facilitate the process. Qualified teachers will be replaced by classroom managers 'delivering' prepackaged lessons that are then marked by AI. Qualified GPS will be replaced by Physician Associates using AI for diagnosis. And so on. The people who really could be replaced by AI with no impact whatsoever (financial advisers, investment brokers, risk assessors) will be protected by the same deluded thinking that causes them to be overpaid now.

"Navigating the Future: Adapting to an AI-Driven Job Market and Mortgage Landscape"

Introduction:

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Conclusion:

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People need a purpose, we need to feel a sense of achievement.
the loss of jobs could be catastrophic, leading to depression, crime, drugs.

You’ll cope. Same as bargees did when the arrival of the railways made canals redundant, or ostlers did when motor vehicles made draft horses redundant.

Why would we as human beings allow that to happen?

Interesting post @SisterMichaelsHabit

@Divinespark apathy

I suspect that , in time, the majority of jobs that involve using a screen would be replaced by AI so offices and WFH won't exist much.

We'll be required to train for jobs that AI can't do eg, building, tree/landscaping work, digging, nursing care...
Even surgery will be replaced , I reckon but I think that's all a long way off.

@AllAroundMyCat a lot of the manual jobs you mentioned, building, landscaping, tree planting among the ones you mentioned can be robotised.

Why would you pay six brickies when you can pay one to supervise a machine doing the job of the other five?

That’s true but they’re less likely to be completely robotised in the near future than screen based jobs.

People have been worried about technology taking "Our" jobs for around 200-300 years ever since the start of the industrial revolution.

More recently the "experts" were warning of massive job losses in administration, accountancy, etc., when PCs were introduced in the 1980s.

The reality is that things change. "Old" jobs disappear but new ones are created, often in trades/industries/professions that hadn't even been thought of back then!

We don't have massive typing pools in firms anymore, but we still have a small army of "admin" staff doing different things!

People worry about self service tills, but that's a whole new industry involving the design, manufacture, installation, training, support and maintenance - all involving people!

My main worry is that our education system (and other countries too!) aren't gearing up for the new skills needed. It's not caught up with workplace changes over the past 50 years and there are no signs of any reform for the next 50! Now, more than ever, we need people with transferrable skills, a broad range of knowledge, etc. So that tomorrow's workforce can be flexible and adapt with the continual change that will happen.

@user1497207191 Are you saying that being an influncer won’t be enough?

Certainly in heavily unionised industries like most of the public sector and associated quangos, etc., the unions won't let any form of automation cause mass redundancies.

Look at the railways. Trains can be designed to drive themselves, and in many places they do, but due to Unions, we can't make progress as they typically insist that for automation, they still need a driver, so what's the point?? It took years for the unions to accept the "second man" in the engine being removed - in the old steam days, you needed a driver and a fireman, but the fireman role became redundant when diesels/electrics took over, but for years, unions insisted on engines having a driver and the "second man".

I just don't believe that unions will allow mass redundancies caused by robots/computers, etc., especially in the public sector.